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Apple Says iOS is Safer Than Android Because Sideloading Apps Isn't Allowed
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if the lawless wasteland of android hasn't turned into a fragmented mess of side loaded malware (like apple most malware and scam apps come from the app store) it is pure speculation to think this will somehow spell the end of ios security. Xbox live streaming doesn't go against terms of service apple just wants their cut of games revenue even though they're happy to let netflix stream videos or buy products on amazon without taking a cut of in app purchases
I get unrecognized chats all the time. With strange links in them. And my iOS updates are auto enabled. I get and see the alert asking if now is a good time or I can go into settings and general and install now if I like. Same for the watch.
Its' those vulnerabilities that worry me the most if Sideloading is apart of iOS going forward. You, me, your children maybe wise enough to notice it and ignore and or delete it. But, there are tons of folks that trust those things will not affect them because you can't do anything outside the App Store. So how can you download something and have it install and hack your phone if you couldn't get it from the App Store? What's side loading? I don't want that, can I remove it? I can't? It's built in because some buggers complained they can't get their freeware from their sites on there device?
I wonder if it could have anything to do with not losing money from people not using the app store :thinkyface:
Congress can absolutely pass laws regulating businesses. Don’t know why you would say they can’t. Where do you think the three laws I referenced came from, that they were handed down by god? The SCOTUS could rule a congressionally-passed law unconstitutional, but that’s a mighty high bar. And if the the other three antitrust laws have passed constitutional muster, I have no doubt some changes to reflect our digital age would as well. The Commerce Clause in the constitution gives the federal government extremely wide latitude.
"Apple Says iOS is Safer Than Android Because Sideloading Apps Isn't Allowed"
Well, with the same argument you could nearly forbid anything (i.e. live in China is safer than in USA because XXX isn't allowed). In the end it mainly protects the one who makes the rules...
Well, with the same argument you could nearly forbid anything (i.e. live in China is safer than in USA because XXX isn't allowed). In the end it mainly protects the one who makes the rules...
I didn't. I said laws can be challenged. You said I said they couldn't.
In the realm of possibility then.
Everything can be challenged.
That is fine when a user can be 100% certain they are downloading from the trusted developer, but I am sure you have a higher degree of technical acuity and have had to show people you know that the site they think LOOKS legitimate is not.
I want Sony Playstation 5 Spider-Man on my Xbox One X.
I want Street Fighter 5 on my Xbox
I want Nintendo Switch Mario Kart on my iPhone.
Shall I go on?
As far as the TV comparison. Well, if you got a TV and your getting your stations via Over-The-Air (Digital Antennas). Well, you certainly can NOT get any station you want. And if you get your TV via Cable/SAT/Internet. You certainly can do better than over the air. But, you most likely can get most if not all your channels that way. Except when the provider you use has an issue with one of those channels and they want to charge more for their services, and your provider says F off, and drops them. You can go looking elsewhere, or maybe try and get that channel directly from them if you crave it so.
Apple thinks differently on that kind of situation. They want to be a one stop shopping. We made this device, you like it, great. We have an operating system and it can do all these cool things with cameras and messaging etc. You like, great. We also have this store where if you like you can shop for a bunch of different things made by all these developers. We have made it safe and yes, its the only way to get things on the device. If you like it you can purchase it. If you don't, thanks for looking at our stuff. If you change your mind where here.
Security! Also, it maybe incompatible with the newer operating system. Could be buggy, and you have no support etc. This is generally only a good idea if you're going to be static on one device and OS version and to be safe off network.
That's great. But, limited use case and while it may work great for you. A system update can come along and break that $#!T. For you that maybe fine, for many like you also.
F Yes! You had me at Nipples! Go Germany!
You had me at nipples.
So on a technical front. No, as that would open up how Apple's magic works in regards to the hardware they built. How to connect to the secure enclave or faceID system.
You are certainly free to try and experiment on that end if you like. For personal use that is.
Ha on that one. However, there is a company making I think its called Freephone. Totally user serviceable with a replaceable battery! Runs that darn Android OS i'm afraid. But, hey... NIPPLES!
The argument is fundamentally true of course.
The same way that an automobile which is geographically restricted from driving on a roadway that has a posted speed limit over 25mph and locking the top speed of said vehicle at 25mph is safer.
You are far less likely to encounter a fatal speed in those conditions.
Many here are acting like their argument is untrue. It is not.
The argument of malicious apps on the iOS appstore is fine, but please DO look at how often in the past Apple has had to remove multiple apps and make statements warning users to remove them vs what Google has had to do.
Whatever Apple does on the App Store is working better than what Google is doing on theirs. Sideloading aside.
The same way that an automobile which is geographically restricted from driving on a roadway that has a posted speed limit over 25mph and locking the top speed of said vehicle at 25mph is safer.
You are far less likely to encounter a fatal speed in those conditions.
Many here are acting like their argument is untrue. It is not.
The argument of malicious apps on the iOS appstore is fine, but please DO look at how often in the past Apple has had to remove multiple apps and make statements warning users to remove them vs what Google has had to do.
Whatever Apple does on the App Store is working better than what Google is doing on theirs. Sideloading aside.
You’re right, I misread something you said.
Please quote that.
Never indicated otherwise.
Agreed, though there’s a wide gulf between being challenged and being nullified.
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Once again Apple is focusing on the thing that isn’t the biggest complaint. From what I’ve followed over the past few years most developers/Apple tech pundits etc. are supporting 3rd party payment options (or at least removing anti-steering provisions) not alternate app stores or side loading. Of course Apple wants to focus on side loading because that’s where they’ll get the most people to agree with them. They don’t want to talk about why it’s perfectly fine/private/secure to use 3rd party payment options on iOS for physical goods but not for digital goods because their stance is a lot more shaky and has less support.
I realize that phone people are the lowest common denominator but they seem to be surviving using macs that are not locked down. they will survive this also.
That and it's not like you're forced to sideload apps if you have an Android phone. It's just an option. You can easily just stick with google play store.
Why are you are comparing these two platforms? There are about 100m Macs in use vs 1B+ iPhones — and yet, there are more damaging viruses and malware for the Mac. Why do you think this is? Why is the problem even worse on a PC and on Android?
YouTube Vanced?
That's the top of mine along with Fortnite and Termux.
Apple should worry about their OS zero click remote root vulnerabilities that allow taking full control of devices with another found in 15.0.1 instead of worrying about people harmlessly sideloading Fortnite, Retroarch, Kodi, etc. that Apple blocks.
https://citizenlab.ca/2021/09/force...sage-zero-click-exploit-captured-in-the-wild/
https://citizenlab.ca/2021/09/force...sage-zero-click-exploit-captured-in-the-wild/
I'm ok with sideloading iOS apps sometimes I don't like an app update and prefer to sideload a previous version. It should be allowed!