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Apple Says iPhone X Demand is 'Off the Charts' After Device Quickly Sells Out Around the World
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And now we know exactly why Apple is perceived to not care about Macs.
The X sells for Mac pricing with a MUCH quicker upgrade cycle than a Mac.
Can't wait to get mine on the 3rd
I am not certain if its evident, however Apple has made it very clear that iOS is where they want to be in a wireless and mobile future. This relates to the iPhone, AW and iPad. The iPad Pro is being primed as a entry/mid level laptop replacement. For my usage (everything except heavy coding/programming and compiling) the iPad Pro 12.9” is a pleasure to use. I highly suspect that Apple is going to incorporate an “A” series chip into a MacBook 12”, when it can migrate more MacOS features and functionality into iOS for iPad.
It does not make sense to have a 12.9” iPad Pro that has an optional keyboard and pencil, and then produce a MacBook 12” with a fixed keyboard and trackpad. I keep hearing valid points that iOS is not a full OS compared to MacOS, yet this is the beauty of it all. MacOS is near perfection along with the MacBook and Pro model as far as design is concerned (port avaibility is another matter). Apple can only make a clamshell laptop so thin, quite (fan-less), light, etc. I feel it went too far in this regard that it has compromised on the typing experience with the butterfly 2 keys, the enlarged trackpad and the touch bar.
The iPad Pro on the other hand is another situation, the screen technology on the mid 2017 iPad Pro models compared to the MacBook line is excellent, it incorporates the touch bar elements when you attach the Smart Keyboard, it has pencil support, and the list goes on. Next the iPad Pro line will focus on AR/VR, dust/splash/water resistance, dual camera with portrait modes, bezel-less, etc. A lot more to develope and improve on the hardware side as it is not limited to a clamshell design. Though the iPad is basically a flat surface, I do not see Apple adopting a complete Surface Book style hybrid design, functionality. Though the iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboard resembles the Surface Pro with keyboard case minus the trackpad.
IOS is Apple’s bread and butter presently and it has a long way to develope and evolve the platform, as they control the hardware it runs on and the software path it takes. Compare this to the Mac side of the house where the hardware is not completely controlled by Apple and it has to wait on other companies to develope and provide it in order to better use the technology to fit Apples vision.
The writing is on the wall, MacOS and hardware has plateaued and its sales and upgrade cycles will slow further in the coming years when compared to iOS and hardware. I bit the bullet now, and do not regret my choice and not looking back either.
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The chart makes no sense, I find it hard to believe both 64 and 256GB both slipped at the same time, and all colors slipped at the same time. There have been posts saying how 256 slipped before the 64. T-Mobile didn't even have a launch day ship date (unless the chart is for in store pickup?) Something is fishy about those charts.
Love being an unpaid Apple beta-tester and having to pay them major coin, this is some twisted role-reversal world we live in.
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Once manufacturing can keep pace with the demand, watch Apple introduce a rose gold or copper gold colour in March 2017 to stimulate sales (circa March 2017 Product RED iPhone).
A Product (RED) iPhone X would look super sexy with the black front.
Many MR forum posters, several weeks ago: "WTF Apple! no way I am paying $1000 for a phone"
Many MR forum posters, today: "OMG they're out of stock of the $1000 phone I'm trying to buy!"
Of course the next A-series will be called A12, and cameras will likely improve.
Is this even up for debate or speculation?
I am kinda bored with the prior iPhone X design, wanted something new to discover with the minor multi-touch implementations on the iPhone X. Nothing wrong with the iPhone 8, it just looks dated.
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People will always complain about the price, hoping that Apple may have a change of heart and mind and lower the price i.e. original iPhone. This is not going to happen, some just grudgingly bit the expensive bullet, some will sell it on eBay, etc.
Yes, the price is steep, however it’s not going to set me back financially. If it is, then a priority of your life is in order, either obtain a second job or a better job, or save up for something you really want. I love how people always blame the world, even though this purchase is a WANT vice NEED.
Cry me a river folks, or better yet wait next year for the price to drop or purchase a used iPhone X, all good affordable options that will be available in less than a year. 
Not sure what your definition of "know" is but I can assure you that we all don't know much.
Actually no. They would not. I could easily afford it but for 5 k I just wouldn't buy it.
I think they know me (and many, many others like me). And that's why they don't pick such an obviously exaggerated price point. They know it would be extremely damaging for the brand. And for their business.
I worked for a test and measurement manufacturer in 2000/2001. They had an optical wavelength meter they maufactured that was used by telecom companies. When the dotcom boom occurred production couldn't keep up with demand because the core of the instrument, a rotating Michelson inteferometer, was difficult to build to meet all specifications. So ship times were weeks and months. Then the dotcom bubble burst, demand fell and shipping dates fell back down to normal. The production manager declared "great news, we caught up!"
No disrespect here: I know folks are buying the phones and thus breaking sales records due to the higher price point, the spin I was referring to was making a negative into a positive insofar as marketing.
The only unfortunate about breaking this sales record this is year is that it proves that people will pay $1000 and more for an iPhone (before taxes, AC+ etc.)
Politely: For me, value comes in how much use and enjoyment one gets from the product they purchase (along with customer service etc.) My Moto Z droid is a piece of poop and was a complete waste of $500.
I do not feel any Apple product I bought this year was worth the $ (not in cost, and certainly not in my usage and enjoyment.) I hope that will change when it comes time to update this iMac. This year was a great lesson for me as far as Apple; what I need and what I think I want are two different things. Going forward, my Apple purchases will be based on needs first.
Enjoy your X.
Fair comment. I don't like seeing $1K+ phones become "normalized" either. But the question still remains - will consumers keep buying $1K phones year after year or keep them for a few. I'll keep mine at least 2 years, maybe more. It's not like I'm going to be busting at the seams for storage. 256 is way more than I need. I don't think I'm alone here and could be a problem for Apple going forward.
Apple is in a tough position, when it comes to their commenting on things like pre-orders. Because they have some history in telling the world just how many units they've sold / taken orders for, people want to know what "off the charts" means in actual numbers. But if their actual numbers don't eclipse those from some past launch where they did say how many they sold, the financial market / pundits / Apple-haters will punish them for "missing" their numbers.
Apple, like any company, sets their own targets, be it 1 million or 100 million units. I don't see Tim Cook lying about high pre-order numbers or using hyperbole to simply make something so-so seem better than it is - because the numbers will come out at some point.
So I'll take what he says as a sign that the actual pre-orders were greater than Apple themselves forecast, at least above the top end of their multiple projection levels (thereby being off-the-charts).
Several people (trolls) made snarky remarks that lots of companies produce and deliver millions of pieces of complex product and do so without the delays that Apple has - but I have to say, I can't think of even one company that this is actually true for. Apple's iPhone launch numbers for individual products, are huge game changers for production, logistics and finance and it's unique to what Apple has created.
Apple, like any company, sets their own targets, be it 1 million or 100 million units. I don't see Tim Cook lying about high pre-order numbers or using hyperbole to simply make something so-so seem better than it is - because the numbers will come out at some point.
So I'll take what he says as a sign that the actual pre-orders were greater than Apple themselves forecast, at least above the top end of their multiple projection levels (thereby being off-the-charts).
Several people (trolls) made snarky remarks that lots of companies produce and deliver millions of pieces of complex product and do so without the delays that Apple has - but I have to say, I can't think of even one company that this is actually true for. Apple's iPhone launch numbers for individual products, are huge game changers for production, logistics and finance and it's unique to what Apple has created.
The only reason why the iPhone X demand is “off-the-charts” is due to Apple drinking their own kool-aid and expecting people to upgrade to the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus more than the iPhone X. Most people buying Apple are buying their flagship of the year which means it would be the iPhone X this year. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus might only account for maybe a 5-10% drop in iPhone X demand. Even though this year and 2018 are Supercycle years, we will see a higher amount of iPhones sold overall from what I estimate. The distribution is going to be smoothed over the year and we will see more people touting the iPhone X vs the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus. It almost doesn’t make sense that they made iPhone 8 and 8 Plus and could have gotten more sales by making another new SE model.
I'm with you on this line of thinking. Much like Apple's computers, where you don't need to upgrade each year - both because their products last and because we've been at a point where the improvements each year are tougher to justify an upgrade - says a guy happily working on my 2013 iMac and rMBP.
The last really big iPhone launch, with the iPhone 6 / 6+, happened because of the shift in device / screen size, but since then there has only been performance improvements that were clearly not enough to generate the same big numbers the 6 saw.
I know I felt the need to upgrade from the 6+ a little more than a year later because the performance just wasn't great (too little ram). But I didn't bite on the 7+ last year, because my 6+ has been operating just fine and the improvements that came with the 7 were not enough to get me to want to upgrade. The X is, much like the 6 was, a shift significant enough for a lot of people to upgrade. I'll upgrade after the buzz wears off, because I too would like to get a bigger screen in a smaller form factor than the 6+ / 7+, and all the other updates (screen, cameras, speed, inductive charging, etc.) just become icing on the cake.
#Facts
I was telling a coworker today that I wasn't planning on buying the X because $1000 is crazy. A few minutes later I got an email about my iPhone X reservation from Apple that needed me to complete the purchase by a specific time. Long story short: I paid for it and I am a hypocrite!
#Facts
I was telling a coworker today that I wasn't planning on buying the X because $1000 is crazy. A few minutes later I got an email about my iPhone X reservation from Apple that needed me to complete the purchase by a specific time. Long story short: I paid for it and I am a hypocrite!
What color you get?
I have a question for about this off the chart stuff. If Apple knows that the Apple X is going to be off the chart than why cant they get enough made and ready to be shipped? I know why because it is called fake short storage to hype up the phone. Shame on you Apple!
Which you have no way of knowing. The 8 isn’t just the 6 again because the front bezels are the same size.
Why do people care what Apple says or how they phrase it? There’s no point in them lying because all of this eventually gets reported out in their financials.