You don’t think a person can get multiple billing addresses and details? This is the biggest issue that collectible markets have. There’s no really good way to stop bots.
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Apple Says iPhone X Will Be Available for Walk-In Customers at Stores on Launch Day
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Thanks for explaining further. At first I thought you were upset at the people who may choose to wait in line. For some it's about the experience as well as the device, and I didn't think it was fair to hold that against them. But yes, I agree, it is strange that Apple seems to be going back on what it said about attempting to shorten the lines and make it easier for people to get their phone a different way, mainly through streamlining the pre-order and upgrade process. Maybe they miss the media attention from the mile-long lines.
One of my favorite preorders was IPhone 3G. I was in Chicago on a fun trip. I waited in line for 7 hours and the line had to be 8 city blocks long with police on horse back etc. I got there late and was on the news. They interviewed me asking me how it felt waiting in line all day knowing i might not get a phone. While waiting all day a guy approached me asking me if I’d sell my spot in line for 300 bucks. I said no thanks lol the guy in front of my accepted the offer and was immediately arrested as the guy making the offer was a under cover cop. Low and behold I got the last iPhone they had since the guy in front of me got busted. When I walked out I was on the news again lol found memories lol I like waiting in-line I was enjoy meeting people etc
I dunno - is it easy to get multiple valid credit or debit cards under different names and addresses? Don’t banks ask to see ID?
I think there's a good chance Apple might surprise us on this. Every year I read comments on here complaining about launch day availability and people write things like - why couldn't Apple just give themselves a week, max out production and make people happy. Maybe this is what has happened.
I've often criticised Tim Cook on here but there was a reason he did well at Apple. He seems to have no taste, no overall vision, his politics is childish etc etc yes we have heard it all but he was by all accounts a master of supply chain manipulation. I doubt Apple picked the launch date out of a hat. They have given themselves a few weeks to build up some stock.
I also think people are putting too much weight in a handful of early reports by Ming about production difficulties and assuming they would never be addressed. Every day container after container of iPhone X shipments will be being sent out.
I think the thing nobody really knows is - what will the demand be? They have never launched two new iPhones in this way nor ever launched one that was so expensive. Sales of the 8 have almost certainly been a bit lacklustre compared to the 7 as it was easy to get any colour on release. Does this mean most are waiting for the X? Nobody really knows.
I really don't think Cook would say "you will be able to buy in store" if he really is planning to ship just 5 to each store - yes the queues are good PR but ultimately frustrate customers if they queue for nothing.
Of course maybe I'm just telling myself this as I would like to buy one!
I've often criticised Tim Cook on here but there was a reason he did well at Apple. He seems to have no taste, no overall vision, his politics is childish etc etc yes we have heard it all but he was by all accounts a master of supply chain manipulation. I doubt Apple picked the launch date out of a hat. They have given themselves a few weeks to build up some stock.
I also think people are putting too much weight in a handful of early reports by Ming about production difficulties and assuming they would never be addressed. Every day container after container of iPhone X shipments will be being sent out.
I think the thing nobody really knows is - what will the demand be? They have never launched two new iPhones in this way nor ever launched one that was so expensive. Sales of the 8 have almost certainly been a bit lacklustre compared to the 7 as it was easy to get any colour on release. Does this mean most are waiting for the X? Nobody really knows.
I really don't think Cook would say "you will be able to buy in store" if he really is planning to ship just 5 to each store - yes the queues are good PR but ultimately frustrate customers if they queue for nothing.
Of course maybe I'm just telling myself this as I would like to buy one!
Analysts were trying to force the stock price down so they could buy more cheaply. That’s my belief.
Sometimes. People in lines are less likely to spew snobbish and annoying rhetorical questions.
I know. Some on this board actually believe you'll need to get your preorder in within 20 seconds...
By allowing walk-in purchase there will be queues outside their stores, and that's free advertising for Apple
I guess the vast majority of iPhone X will be available online on preorder, and they'll have a few units for walk-in next week. The best way to have it on day 1 is being really quick (and lucky) during preorder, or be prepared to stay in line from early morning on launch day
i didn't mean to imply that - all of us trying to get one day 1 are fans - i've stood in many a line to get an apple product. The last time was for the ipad mini - I was at the NYC 14th st store and the line went all the way to 10th ave and several blocks up - it was FREEZING that night and I almost gave up and went home. Lines are bad when its cold or raining !!!!!!!
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it already did - lol - that's why i added to my post.
He's running a technology company. People can do two things at one time. Do you really want people to tell you that you should stick to whatever you do for a living and not get involved in your personal interests?
Most successful CEOs are involved in corporate politics, to some degree. That's how they stay visible. I'd say Cook is endearing more people than he's alienating. It's not like Steve Jobs would've stood for some of the crap that's happening in Washington now, either.
It is all about covering the slightly worse sales numbers of q4 2018 vs 2017.
Apple will release this numbers after november 3?
There is no better cure for worse results for stock holders than seeing people bashing heads in front of an apple store to get an iphone x.
Apple will release this numbers after november 3?
There is no better cure for worse results for stock holders than seeing people bashing heads in front of an apple store to get an iphone x.
well, every country in the world apart from the united states it will be unlocked if you buy it from apple
Sure. Business credit cards. Friends. Family. Etc. Also, IDK about where you live, but in the US it is not unheard of to actually have/operate/live at multiple addressses. I wouldn't say it's common, but it's not uncommon enough to disallow people to have various valid addresses.
Right now I have access to myself. My business. My wife. Her business. My mother. My in laws. My in laws military ID. My sister in laws. My borhter in laws military ID. etc. etc. Should I want to get a boatload of these things I could easily do it with a bot. Pay each person $50 for the trouble on top of the people who I wouldn't have to pay because immediate family. And this is just me talking about my situation who doesn't care to do any of this; imagine someone that actually makes a living reselling hot commodities.
Again, this is a huge problem in the collectibvles markets. If someone wants to get ten iphones picked up/delivered they get ten iphones picked up/delivered. I can even open UPS PO boxes. They look and act like a real address (not a PO box). People who live near a border state that doesn't have a sales tax do that and have stuff shipped there all the time.
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Such people do go to hell though. Right?
I think they should link them to existing or new accounts. As in, got an account you want to link this to? If it checks out via the service provider, you can buy a phone. Which means that, as a person with 9 lines on one account, I should be able to buy 9 phones. One assigned to each number. For all they know, all 9 people on my account want to do an upgrade and since the account is in my name, it's easier for me to do it.
Furthermore, of those 9, 5 live in my house. I should be able to have 5 phones, registered under 5 different, active phone accounts, shipped to the billing address for my phone account, no?
Granted, it's not going to be 5 this time... should be 3... one of my sons is buying his own phone and I'm buying 2 (for me and husband). I have done as many as 3 at a time before and not had any canceled, so I assume it'll work out fine this time around. We have different phone numbers and names assigned to each phone on our account.
“The days of waiting in line... are over for our customers.”
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/07/angela-ahrendts-online-memo/
There has been a lot of change at Apple. Change that has really struck a nerve with many loyalists. And while I get it, fully, I also understand that Apple’s change is necessary - if not evolutionary.
I’ve been using Macs exclusively since ‘91. I can recall a time when I was more emotionally invested - looking to convert everyone in my path. To "show them they way." A time when Apple was the underdog. The anti-establishment. A time when I was part of what truly felt like a special niche: the young creative. I was using Macs for making, for doing. And while it seems a no-brinaer now, there was a time when "making stuff" on a computer was pretty niche. And while I’m grateful to continue earning a living behind a Mac, I fully recognize I am no longer their target audience. And I also recognize that is a good thing. A necessary thing.
As Apple has evolved, and the forums have polarized, I’ve been pretty open to their evolution. While many have called for Tim’s head for every perceived step and misstep, I’ve been enjoying the ride. Appreciating what they seem to be trying to accomplish with a such a massive audience. What they are trying to scale is nothing short of staggering.
So as I mentioned in my original post, the one change that I feel has really taken a more significant, if not nearly invisible, toll on the community (and ultimately the company and the brand), was the decision to forgo launch day lines. I know... Who likes lines? Well, it isn't actually the standing in a line aspect that I miss. No, it's the energy, the comrade, the gathering of like-minded people in the same space, at the same time for more or less the same thing. Again, the community. As the definition of "community" evolves and moves more into a digital world (in the name of convenience), there are aspects of an evolving community that are more isolating, less connective. So yes, while it is a line, it is also so much more.
So that is why I'm glad to see that there will likely be some queuing next Friday at Apple Stores across the globe. Depending on my pre-order status, I may be there checking in on us... See how we're doing.
Tomorrow price will go up when it’s sold out. Demand is something I as a shareholder am very much interested $5+ tomorrow