its funny we live in a world where Kids can eviscerate people in video games as gory as possibly but god forbid they see people have sex.
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Apple Says It Doesn't Approve of EU Porn App
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As someone who lives in the EU I prefer the freedom knowing I could download apps that Apple blocks for whatever reasons. I didn't use any alternative app stores so far but the EU is very much pro consumers and always has been. Without the EU we would still be having (besides the obvious like tariffs, visa fees, border controls) roaming fees, no passenger rights when flying or traveling by trains, no two year warranty for all things you buy, no free healthcare in all EU countries, credit card fees when paying in other EU countries, no strong privacy rules, not the highest safety standards for food, toys and drugs, dangerous chemicals in food and cosmetics like in the US or China... The list goes on forever. So yeah thank you EU.
No, it was lobbied for these changes by large rivals of Apple's, not because of any substantive consumer lobbying. This is all about business, not freedom for consumers, who now get to download porn apps as if this was by design and not accident.
Maybe they shouldn’t choose to be associated (controlling) the distribution of any and every app then.
There is no chance they were going to accidentally install a third-party App Store, which is what would be required.
I think Apple stepped over the line when they turned this into a moral discussion. This isn’t something that they should be policing. We already had that with the CSAM thing - getting any tech company involved in moral enforcement is a slippery slope even if the intention was good.
As for this app, meh. Where the hell is Firefox with uBlock origin?
As for this app, meh. Where the hell is Firefox with uBlock origin?
Not trying to rehash our frequent debates, but:
1) Apple doesn't have a monopoly in anything
2) Apple is doing right by its customers scanning all apps for malware, not protecting profits.
3) If Apple didn't, I suspect there would be an extremely large contingent of people on MacRumors, if not the EU itself, suggesting that Apple is maliciously complying with the DMA.
3) The EU forced Apple to approve this app. There is literally no way to argue otherwise.
Notarization for third-party stores follow different rules than on the Apple App Store. On the Apple App Store, Apple can deny access for arbitrary reasons, but on third-party stores Apple can only deny access if they can demonstrate the App in question poses an objective risk.
In this case, the App might be questionable from Apple's point of view so they don't allow it on their own App Store, but apparently Apple is not confident to be able to demonstrate the App actually poses an objective risk, so they cannot deny notarization for third-party stores.
There are tons of websites and YouTube videos teaching people how to install enterprise certificates, sign up for the developer beta etc. I am sure there will be YouTube videos up tonight teaching people "How to Install the App Apple Doesn't Want You to Know About".
I mean scammers get people to drain their bank accounts, over the objections of the bank tellers working there. Getting them to install a scammy third party App Store is a piece of cake compared to that.
Apple of course have no issues with gambling Apps because they get a cut of that sweet juice
It’s only because Apple has distorted the narratives around this to the point where they have people defending their generally absurd position on over control….. which is really just running cover for revenue protection
The way it’s described in AltStore’s post makes me frown very hard and have a very negative opinion of the store’s developer. Bravo, you just wiped out the admiration I had for you.
1) They (still) have one for distribution of iOS apps to consumers.
2) It benefits customers, yes. Other actions of Apple do not benefit them.
3) Of course. I’d argue they are still maliciously complying (by preferencing their own store that’s not subject to “Core Technology Fee”).
4) No - Apple could have chosen to adopt a complete hands-off approach to installing third-party apps.
They instead chose to (continue to) require approval of apps on an individual basis. And charge (CTF) for the process. The EU merely limited their grounds for refusal.
They chose developers to require their approval and notarisation - and pay💰for it.
They had to do neither.
From the Dev of AltStore.
Apple needs to work on their template language
Apple needs to work on their template language
Yeah, for all 12 of the people who use third party marketplaces.
Thread title is a little odd also
This isn’t a porn app that’s tied to, nor endorsed by, the EU any more than by Apple
It’s simply “not disallowed” there
Framing matters
This isn’t a porn app that’s tied to, nor endorsed by, the EU any more than by Apple
It’s simply “not disallowed” there
Framing matters
I love the idea that the European Union got together to make a porn app for the iPhone.
The best developers didn’t want third party stores, that was just Epic/Spotify and the cast of losers in the Coalition for App Fairness, which isn’t even a group of a thousand developers, not even hundreds of developers… not even 100 developers.
Meanwhile, the best developers are making money on the official App Store.
And McDonalds has a monopoly on distribution of Big Macs to consumers. That's not actually a monopoly.
Disagree strongly. Most consumers benefit from one single, safe place to download apps. For those who don't benefit, Android exists.
I strongly disagree. If the EU didn't want Apple charging developers for using Apple's property they should have actually nationalized it instead of trying to be cute and force them to give it away for free.
And had Apple done so, you and half of MacRumors would be complaining that Apple is making it impossible to install third party apps safely. The EU would be threatening to fine them for harming consumers. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Again, the EU says Apple can't prohibit apps because of content, how can you argue with a straight face that the EU isn't forcing Apple to approve this app? Just because Apple wants to scan it for malware? Seriously, come on.
And I'm done responding on this because I really don't want to have the same argument with you on the 50th thread. Have a good evening (or, as I assume you're in the EU, a good night)!
They can say "Apple notarized app". That's accurate.
And to be honest, I get why Apple said something since they decided to make their 'approval' part of the marketing.
And to be honest, I get why Apple said something since they decided to make their 'approval' part of the marketing.
What would happen if Apple stopped doing business with EU? How long would it take EU to reverse their demands?
