Apple Says It Doesn't Approve of EU Porn App

[JonathanX64]

Ok, wait.

What if this situation is a psyop by Apple to push back against regulations?

Nobody needs an app to watch adult videos; people do it with the web browser just fine. These websites don't even provide an API, so this application is likely not a native app that enhances the experience somehow but just a web wrapper.

Apple paid some developers to create this in order to have a great «Look what can happen when people own their devices!» case for lobbying.

I do wonder if «application adheres to Human Interface Guidelines» was part of their job description, hehe.

 

[0049190]

Fortunately, you could just buy another brand if they did.

What if Ford and GM were the only two brands available? That is essentially what you have now with Apple and Android.

 

[turbineseaplane]

A good piece here

"Ultimately, Apple isn't happy, but I can't help but feel it's from its own doing. You can go to sites like ******* on your Safari web browser right now with no restrictions, yet you can't download an app that can display similar videos. It feels odd, out of touch, and against what many people in the real world actually do with their devices."

 

[eRondeau]

I had no idea pornography was available online.

“They have the internet on computers now?”
— Homer Simpson

 

[subjonas]

Apple employees are human and have kids and don't want their children to see adult material. The adults however should get a choice what they consume.

They do have a choice. People confuse freedom with “I want something very particular and if the organization/person in charge of that thing doesn’t offer it to me then they are denying me free choice”. It’s a very twisted entitled view.

 

[JonathanX64]

Fortunately, you could just buy another brand if they did.

That's not how it works.

When one company pulls some anti-consumer move, others take notes and are very likely to start doing the same. It's important to ALWAYS push back against companies that try to screw their customers.

All of Apple's BS on this subject must be met with the fiercest response, especially since they're trying to take away YOUR control of YOUR device.

 

[macfacts]

Actions speak louder than words. We're going to pay this huge fine but we aren't guilty of any wrong doing. We're going to digitally sign this app but we don't approve of it.

 

[steve09090]

Thread title is a little odd also

This isn’t a porn app that’s tied to, nor endorsed by, the EU any more than by Apple

It’s simply “not disallowed” there

Framing matters

It’s specifically enabled by the EU though. Framing matters.

It’s the consequences of what they did, and the EU should accept responsibility that their decision has opened the door for this.

What is stopping someone from side loading an app specifically for drug dealing, or something worse?

 

[mejsric]

…thereby approving them for running on consumers’ devices distribution.

They don’t have to.
Again: Apple chose to require their (Apple’s) approval - their checks and signing the app.
When they could’ve easily chosen a hands-off approach and not interfere at all instead.

you can actually buy other phones...

 

[BBCWatcher]

This new app is shocking! Never before has pornography come to Europe.

 

[The Phazer]

Apple's bigotry against adult content creators is disgusting, and a great example of why they should not be legally allowed to perform any form of editorial control.

 

[Rogifan]

Apple can absolutely not have an issue with profanity and have an issue with hardcore pornography. It’s their platform, they should get to decide what runs on it.

So should Apple ban Reddit from the App Store then?

 

[CapitalIdea]

Oh please,..they literally sell 1000+ adult toys online. 🤦‍♂️

On Apple.com? I’m talking specifically a out the App Store.

 

[surferfb]

What if Ford and GM were the only two brands available? That is essentially what you have now with Apple and Android.

If Ford advertised “you can use any repair shop you want” and GM said “you have to use ours” it would be very silly to buy a GM if you cared about independent repair shops.

When one company pulls some anti-consumer move, others take notes and are very likely to start doing the same. It's important to ALWAYS push back against companies that try to screw their customers.

Please. No one so screwing customers. If Apple had advertised as open and switched, then yes. But they’ve never been open. They advertise being closed as a selling feature. I’m sure some parents pick iOS because you can’t install porn apps like you can on Android. And that’s been taken away because the EU thinks it knows better than Apple (and they thought all phones should be required to have Micro-USB ports, so they clearly know better than Apple).

All of Apple's BS on this subject must be met with the fiercest response, especially since they're trying to take away YOUR control of YOUR device.

No, they’re controlling what apps they support on THEIR operating system using THEIR APIs. You’re free to jailbreak and sideload to your heart’s content, Apple just isn’t obligated to help you do it (or at least they aren’t on continents where intellectual property rights are respected).

 

[surferfb]

So should Apple ban Reddit from the App Store then?

If they want to, sure. Apple could ban all apps that don’t start with the letter A for all I care, I’m not a shareholder. iOS is their property, the app store is their property. Nobody is forced to buy/develop for their devices

Android exists. If you don’t like what Apple is doing then vote with your wallet. What you shouldn’t do is have the government come in and force a company with 25% market share in the jurisdiction to act like the competitor with 75% share just because you don’t like Android.

Life is full of trade offs, you don’t get to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[UliBaer]

(...) What is stopping someone from side loading an app specifically for drug dealing, or something worse?

Who is stopping someone installing Onion on his iPhone?

 

[Tomasulu]

Look the eu addressed the anti competition aspect (price gouging for example) of apples one and only AppStore. Which is absolutely the right thing to do imo. The consequence is the consequence, the eu is not gonna start policing for pornographic content. It’s not like an underaged person can’t access porn without the altstore.

 

[jeroenvip]

This is a good thing for apple. Imagine how many extra cleaning cloths apple will sell once this subject hits the road on alt stores.

 

[4k78]

Apple's bigotry against adult content creators is disgusting, and a great example of why they should not be legally allowed to perform any form of editorial control.

Not sure if serious.

 

[coachgq]

30% could've made this safe for the kids? Shame.

You are thinking if this app would have been submitted in the US they would have allowed it because of the 30%?

 

[Pakaku]

It's always "to protect the kids", and never "make it the responsibility of the parents they signed up for as parents"

 

[The Phazer]

Not sure if serious.

Completely. And this is one of many examples.

 

[rafark]

They are absolutely right though. Apple has developed a safe and closed environment, but then came the EU and it took the safety enitrely away. Which honestly is strange since the DSA would limit an App Store making Porn Apps available to children.

I’ve never used android in my entire life but this just doesn’t make too much sense. Most of the world uses android. We’re talking like what 2-3 billion devices? And people don’t get their data stolen or their devices bricked. Most people seem fine. To me this looks like Apple is trying to use this p0rn app as kind of a scapegoat, especially the way they said “hardcore p0rn” (really?). Even with these appstores ios is still pretty safe. This p0rn app is pretty much no different than just browsing a p0rn website.

 

[breenmask]

Apple, this statement is not needed

If anything you're bringing more attention to the porn app and third party marketplaces that allow users more freedom on how they use their iOS devices

“we certainly do not approve of this app”.

You do not approve of this app.
But you do and did approve this app.

👉 Because you force every developer into seeking your approval (for their apps).

adults should be allowed to enjoy what they want. It’s like saying driving a car is bad because a toddler might accidentally get locked inside a car by themselves.

I have to agree. In the EU this ship has sailed, **** about it versus drawing more attention to the alt-store crowd.

Do they approve of people typing in adult site URLs on Safari?

Steve Jobs has been dead for over a decade. What he thought and wanted for Apple really isn't relevant anymore.

As for the article, they, however, do approve of these apps:

Apple approved an app masquerading as LastPass

How did this make it through such stringent filters?

mashable.com

Apple Approves Fake App Before Real Rabby Wallet, Users' Funds Stolen

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After backlash, Apple removes fake Threads app, unethical loan apps from App Store - The Mac Security Blog

After facing public backlash, Apple finally removed some unethical apps from the App Store, including a Threads lookalike app and Indian lending apps with ridiculous fees.

www.intego.com

You can tell who is really being objective when they're saying it's ok for someone to lie about Apple approving something.

 

[breenmask]

"but what about allowing safari to visit porn sites"

did someone say apple approves of a porn website on safari?