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Apple Says New EU Interoperability Rules 'Bad for Our Products and Our Users'
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I wonder what they buy/ownSo the EU really would prefer that there be an ecosystem of one operating system that all device makers license so that there is no meaningful product differentiation. Stupid.
Basically like Vonnegut’s “Harrison Bergeron” applied to technology. I hear a German accented person yelling that “Product Differentiation is Verboten!”
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We may eventually all win though if the EU dictates that audiophile headphones and speakers are not allowed to sound better than a cheap set of cans but that cheap headphones are required to function like audiophile gear. Its lovely to have politicians with no experience outside of being politicians think that they are qualified to decree reality to their own liking.
I guess you have not been following all the interpretations in the EU.
It is clear to me that they are not interested in Apple’s explanation
Because apple’s explanation is not 100% accurate because believe it or not companies have been known to not be honest with things
Why should they have to give their tech away for free or open up tech the designed. Better of just not opening anything up in the EU anymore.
So what tech have Apple been told to give away?
What is the functionality of it
Like what does it do?
I understand this
I just don’t see what the issue is
So the tech that apple is to give access to
Is it possible for other companies to achieve this on iOS when apple don’t allow access?
Again why should they. If you made something should you be forced to give it away.
Because you are grouping everything together to justify your defence
However there are factors behind what is being asked.
Like for example nobody is asking apple to put android onto the iPhones hardware on the EU
Or allow other companies to use the A chips or M chips or use apple’s hardware designs.
So what is are the purpose of the features that the EU are asking apple to open up like what does AirPlay do on iOS?
I’m saying why should any company invest millions or billions only for the EU to force them to give it away for free.
Apple should just stop any new features in the EU.
Again if you invented a widget way should you be forced to give it away.
it depends on the context regarding what is being asked to be opened up because your doing the classic generalisation to say why should a company invest millions or billions to then give access to it
But you’re not breaking down what type of thing it is and what it actually does.
Because all your doing is making a blanket statement to frame it a certain way.
A widget is not the same as what’s being asked and you know it’s different
It doesn’t matter. No company should be force to give anything away for free
But it does matter
Because if you could make a legitimate argument as to why the owner of an operating system would allow 3rd parties onto said platform but then not allow access to software features that yourself can use to deliberately give your products an advantage over the competition by knowing fine well that not one single company will every be able to achieve is the point.
There is no legitimate argument to be made. Don’t like the terms and conditions don’t engage. Engaging as a dev with Apple is strictly opt in. Find another way to distribute your products.
IMO, Apple is right. Nobody here would like it if they were forced to rent out their homes to anybody who knocked on the door.
What terms and conditions because I’m pretty sure there are none for a certain type of product on iOS
It’s a private house not a company that has 3rd parties on their platform if that’s the case then don’t allow them on in the first place
Just like my property I don’t allow people in so there is no issue then
When one signs up for an engagement with a vendor there are typically terms and conditions. The list includes, the electric company, isp, water company, rent mortgage etc. same for engaging as a dev with Apple.
That’s the point. Overbearing government regulation that now impinges on the private citizen.
What terms and conditions do headphone makers have with Apple?
What point I’m a private citizen not a company that has 3rd parties on their platform there is a difference
Apple doesn't have to give anything away for free but they cannot give themselves private API access that they don't allow others access to. The AirDrop stuff is just that, it's all built on private APIs that no one else can use to do the same kind of auto-discoverability. That is the problem, Apple builds something that makes it easier to share files but then makes sure no one else can use it so that if you want to share files with other platforms you wont have as good an experience.
I suspect Apple could get rid of AirDrop all together in the EU and they wouldn't have this problem, no one could do auto-discovery for sharing and then there would be no features that use the iPhone dominance to sell more Apple devices.
If Apple wants to create a feature that lets its own devices work together in a way that requires private APIs that they lock down and prevents other devices from achieving the same level of integration that is likely to be found in violation.
Apple can't use one device to sell another device. If Apple wants to sell a second device they are going to have to rely on actually building a better device rather than relying on ecosystem lock-in.
Which should be their right to do. They built it. But in the EU your property isn’t yours if you’re a big American tech company.
Agree. I suspect the EU will lose more and more features as long as their government insists on giving away Apple’s innovations to its competitors for free. Like iPhone Mirroring.
Which is insane. Let the free market work EU!
The fact that Apple is required to give away its innovations to all is a affront to the free market that belongs in history, not the present day. No wonder the EU is a desert of innovation
As you agreed with above, they could remove airdrop and give away nothing. It is only because they want to build technology in a way that allows them to leverage dominance in one market to alter the market dynamics of an adjacent market that they are in trouble.
Note, Apple is adopting the industry standard wireless discoverability protocol to allow for airdrop competitors, suggesting they aren’t even giving away anything, just being forced to adopt a standard they kept off their platform to help boost their own tech.
Note, Apple is adopting the industry standard wireless discoverability protocol to allow for airdrop competitors, suggesting they aren’t even giving away anything, just being forced to adopt a standard they kept off their platform to help boost their own tech.
If headphone makers want to control their headphones from an app they have to become a developer. If they don’t, no t&c needed because no dev agreement needed.
That’s the point overreaching government regulations now impinging on private citizens.
Simple: dominant companies operating closed systems, withholding features/interoperability and acting anticompetitively by leveraging their power makes consumers pay more and stifles innovation in related markets.
It’s just undesirable from an economic and societal point of view.
Why are they invested - and distributing their products - in Europe anyway, when it’s supposedly such a hostile environment?
If you and someone else (say @surferfb ) controlled 99% of the country’s housing stock, guy would I advocate for governments to regulate your business conduct and rental pricing!
You win, you lose some.
Retro emulators, more affordable external purchases, user-friendly file transfer with Android, better media playback/mirroring options (from an iOS device to other devices), better connectivity with non-Apple smartwatches. All enabled through EU regulation.