Why would you think software
Would be different to hardware in regards to the DMA that’s the point
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Would be different to hardware in regards to the DMA that’s the point
I think something is getting lost in translation.
Apple not offering, say, Apple News in a country because they haven't struck content deals with that country's newspapers and magazines, has nothing to do with the fact the DMA requires Apple to give away access its software innovations to anyone who wants them, even Apple's competitors, which will absolutely chill software innovation.
No lost in translation here
So if this is software then just don’t release it in the EU if it’s a problem for you then?
EU set some random rules to target US companies to socialize their tech, that is all what it is.
Yes, that's literally what Apple is doing. See: iPhone Mirroring.
However, that adds software complexity, has the potential to introduce bugs, diverts valuable engineering resources away from new features to instead ensure compliance with draconian regulations, leads to some features not being built because they're not worth forking the OS over, etc. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
Apple should simply limit the sales of the iPhone sales to a fixed number and jack up the price. Think of something exclusive like Hermes. This way, Apple can stay below the DMA threshold and don't have to comply with this BS, and then earn extra money from the higher price.
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Amazon is doing the same thing. All the new AI features on their Kindle Scribe is blocked in Europe. In the USA, it is allowed by Amazon.
I think they don't understand. They should look at the first post. i.e. excepted below.
The DMA, which came into force last year, requires major platform holders or "gatekeepers" like Apple to provide third-party developers equal access to iOS and iPadOS system tools and features.
The Commission's first proceeding focused on iOS connectivity features for third-party connected devices like smartwatches, headphones, and virtual reality headsets. The decisions specify how Apple will provide effective interoperability for functionalities such as notifications, device pairing, and connectivity and data transfer functions like AirDrop and AirPlay.
If I was Apple I would never allow this. It is not restricted to the EU. Developers would use this access worldwide. SAY NO to the EU. Let Apple ban the iPhone in the EU and see what their consumers think. There will be a massive black market and entire criminal cartels built on smuggling iPhones into Europe
😝😂So if that is the case then why can’t I get all the software features of iOS in my country
Because that’s not fair that the USA gets priority over other countries and has done for years and it was never an issue previously
Apple offers what it offers, if you don't like that then buy the competition. If you really don't like that, reach out to your elected EU representatives and ask them to repeal the DMA, because it will absolutely lead to fewer features than the US gets
Why can’t I purchase a physical dual sim iPhone in my country or have all the software features that are available in other countries yet apple have done that for years and there has not been this outrage
Speaking for myself, it's because I think it should be Apple's choice what features it offers. Not the government's.
There hasn't been an outrage because MOST iPhone users don't need it. It's a smaller market than you think for a physical dual sim iPhone. I get that there is ALOT of people, including you that would find this feature useful, but if you look at it, its probably just a very small percentage of users that actually care about that type of feature. Apple tries to compromise by offering electronic duel sim.
Same reason I suppose I can’t purchase a physical dual sim in my country. Why can’t I purchase an iPhone with twice the battery size that is currently available? Are you expecting Apple to cater to your needs?
What other software features and what outrage.? DMA outrage?
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That makes no sense because apple don’t make an iPhone with double the battery size in other countries
but what they do is make a physical dual sim available in other countries yet there is no outrage at that and they still make available in my country a physical sim and eSIM iPhones yet in other countries eSIM only yet nobody cares
Or not giving everyone all available features on ios in different countries yet no outrage at that
So what’s the issue then if software is different in other countries anyway
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That’s the point different countries have different things available and nobody cares
Regarding iOS and Apple throughout the best part of 5 plus years and that was no issue for apple to offer different things to different countries. I could see the issue if every country got the exact same iPhone dual sim or every iOS feature available but they don’t
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Yeah but you said I seem to recall
You saying that forking over iOS will lead to bugs?
Yet this stuff already happens by different countries not getting access to all the iOS features available and there is no issue there.
Yes. There are legal and regulatory challenges that may contribute to different hardware and software for different regions for various reasons. But Apple doesn’t cater to an individuals whims for the most part.
And for the most part, the operating environment is the same except for the EU.
Correct.
Citation, otherwise supposition. Because you are trying to infer any change is a change that causes bugs. Which is true, but what is also true is more changes causes more bugs if we are being extraordinarily simplistic. EU.
Incorrect because different countries don’t get all the iOS features available and there are no issues regarding bugs because the version of iOS I get is different from the one in the USA and the one in Asia is different again so no issues with bugs
Again if it’s such an issue and your not in the EU then you won’t have a problem then
I said it can lead to bugs. Which is absolutely true. It's true when Apple does it on its own and it's true when the EU makes Apple do it.
Again, my issue is that I don't think the government should be dictating how OSes function except in vary narrow circumstances related to health and safety. "My Bose headphones don't connect as nicely as Apple's (but they still connect)" and "I want to use Apple's property to build my app and make lots of money, but I don't want to pay Apple to do so" don't come anywhere close to the bar that would justify intervention into how a company operates.
But apple won’t allow any company to have the ability to have better connectivity on iOS apart from their own products
So that is not about innovation when a company deliberately blocks companies from being able to do it.
Again they offer eSIM only iPhones in your country and in my country you get a physical sim and an eSIM version and in some other countries you get a physical dual sim iPhone
So no issues there
Then different countries get different levels of iOS features available again no issues there so as yourself and I7GUY don’t live in the EU then the DMA will not affect you because different countries already get different versions of iOS anyway
I see nothing wrong with that.
They are free to innovate on Android. What the EU has done is reduced Apple's incentive to innovate, not increase the chance of innovation on iOS.
I don't see what that has to do with anything.
The engineering resources spent on complying with that mess of a law has absolutely taken away resources that would have otherwise been making new features, better features, and fixing bugs. So, the DMA has affected me by giving me worse products than I would have gotten otherwise.
Apple hasn't released figures, but Meta estimated 600,000 engineer hours for 11,000 engineers at a cost of over 5 billion Euros. I'm sure Apple is above that. Think about all the good that could have done instead!