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Again all wrong. Exposing an API for interoperability is completely different than delivering source code.

What you're suggesting is like requiring Coke to only be available in aluminum cans because that is the best experience for Coke users.
To use your analogy, if Coke thinks its product is best enjoyed in a glass bottle, who does the EU think they are coming in to say "it's not fair to aluminum can manufacturers - Coke must be available in Aluminum cans as well." It should be Coke's decision to make how its product is presented and used, not the government's.
 
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Would it shock you to know that not every one wants to use an Apple Watch with an iPhone?

Would it shock you to know that I don't care if you don't want an Apple Watch? I only care that your desire to pay someone else for Apple's IP may very well reduce the value, function, security, and stability of the products I choose to buy as well as violate the property rights of Apple's shareholders.
 
So the EU really would prefer that there be an ecosystem of one operating system that all device makers license so that there is no meaningful product differentiation. Stupid.

Basically like Vonnegut’s “Harrison Bergeron” applied to technology. I hear a German accented person yelling that “Product Differentiation is Verboten!”


We may eventually all win though if the EU dictates that audiophile headphones and speakers are not allowed to sound better than a cheap set of cans but that cheap headphones are required to function like audiophile gear. Its lovely to have politicians with no experience outside of being politicians think that they are qualified to decree reality to their own liking.
 
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Would it shock you to know that I don't care if you don't want an Apple Watch? I only care that your desire to pay someone else for Apple's IP may very well reduce the value, function, security, and stability of the products I choose to buy as well as violate the property rights of Apple's shareholders.
How would providing an API to connect a third party watch to my iPhone affect your security and stability? The whole point of an API is that it provides a secure link that doesn’t compromise the security and safety of both parties. Apple provides other APIs without any problems, why would this be any different?
 
Apple is welcome to receive my euros, because I'm always happy about their products. The world can be that simple.
It's a win-win situation between me as a European customer and Apple as a manufacturer of great technology.

Hopefully some regulators won't ruin it.
I also buy from apple from time to time as well. It was in response to the guy claiming (for the umpteenth time in these forums) apple should drop our market. It's highly unlikely to happen, apple will find the way to do the bare minimum to somewhat comply with the new regulations an that will be that.
 
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Yes, but the argument is "no user will be forced to leave the walled garden". And that isn't true. If I wanted an open ecosystem I would have purchased an Android device. The EU doesn't need to "fix" that for me - the competition ALREADY exists.
Without the EU users could only choose between a walled garden and a system that sells your data. If the EU opens the walled garden and increases the privacy of Android, users have more choice.

Resort fees are another example. In the US some hotels have resort fees and some have not. So in the US you can choose between hotel with and without resort fees, but in the EU resort fees are illegal. So people have much more choice.
 
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Apple creating the $999 M4 MBA, is Apple at its best.

The Watch (latest models) and AirPods Pro 2 are amazing pieces of technology too.

However, Apple refusing to let 3rd parties use the APIs to talk to the iPhone the way that the Watch and AirPods do, is Apple at its worst.

Even more so, is Apple pretending to have its users' best interest at it's heart in its public statements of protest, when it is extremely self serving & transparently so.

I would prefer an Apple that constantly innovates and simply makes the best products that people won't leave - or buy competitor's products - because they are so good.

The Apple that wants to extract as much value as it can from the iPhone, will find that it doesn't have many friends on the inevitable descent (as no company can last at the top forever).
 
Developers have the right to access all the same hardware features Apple apps do.

Apple also has the right to CHARGE developers to access THEIR IP.

Bad precedents trying to be set by both sides.
umm can you imagine that each WWDC as Apple reveals new frameworks and new APIs, what would happen if it dared tried to charge developers for usage?
 
And Apple is 100% correct. EU doesn't care about end users or understand why Apple is popular with users in the first place. Some of the rules:


Do work for your competitors for free!


Can't tell your users that the third parties might not be as safe as secure as Apple!


You can't use new features to differentiate your products, the second you invent something for yourself you have to let others use it


You have to help your competitors design their competing products, for free!

This blatant theft of Apple's intellectual property will chill innovation. I hope Apple is able to get large parts of this overreach overturned in the European courts.
No the point that the EU are making is Apple deliberately design products that have certain features that the other companies are not allowed to have
So that means they are deliberately holding an advantage over the competition
 
And the EU can’t force Apple to sell their products there.
We’ll probably be ok.

How’s that?
When Apple deliberately design products that have an advantage over the competitors
That’s the problem. It’s massively uncompetitive. It’s forcing people to buy apple products once they own one. The thing is, most people would buy them anyway, they make great products. Keeping competitors peripherals and apps out of the loop by not letting them compete in apples ecosystem properly is bad for the competition, bad for consumers and ultimately bad for Apple.
 
No the point that the EU are making is Apple deliberately design products that have certain features that the other companies are not allowed to have
So that means they are deliberately holding an advantage over the competition
Isn't that what completion is all about. Why should Apple or any other company innovate web the EU will give it away for free. Time for Apple to walk away fro the EU Regime.
 
Isn't that what completion is all about. Why should Apple or any other company innovate web the EU will give it away for free. Time for Apple to walk away fro the EU Regime.
No it’s about for example deliberately making features unavailable to your competitors so they are more prone to buy your items
Hence the issue
 
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Soon the EU will demand that Apple freely give away the M series, A series, and all other Apple made Chips to EU competitors. After that all profits apple makes over a certain amount must be given to EU competitors, to level the playing field.

Just leave apple, at some point it’s just not worth it anymore.
 
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Soon the EU will demand that Apple freely give away the M series, A series, and all other Apple made Chips to EU competitors. After that all profits apple makes over a certain amount must be given to EU competitors, to level the playing field.

Just leave apple, at some point it’s just not worth it anymore.
You don’t understand what’s happening do you, yet you still feel the need to post this utterly irrelevant and nonsensical statement.
 
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