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I was inside 12 months and they still refused to test or accept the issue.Outside of Apple Care and the 1 year warranty you are properly screwed, especially if you don't live near an Apple store. I had to get a replacement iPad as I don't think they even repair them nowadays?
Indeed, you are totally correct, I work partly in quality/calibration and myself have to create gauges and other things to specified/official tolerances.
However, the tolerances one would have would be far smaller than anything one could ever detect with the naked eye.
Variations such as this should only be noticeable with some form of checking equipment or extremely close visual examination.
Not something that's easy to notice.
Apple can get away with this because Apple fans will accept it. Next year Apple will release the iPad pro 11s and 12.9s (s=straight) and have the Apple fans cheering.
The naked eye resolution at arms length, say 30 cm, is something like 0.00003 radians, or 100 microns, or roughly two widths of hair.
So something which might be classified as a ‘bend’ yet is still obviously functional is something like two widths of a hair.
The problem I have with this discussion is people want their cake and eat it too... the vast majority of us open our product the instant we get home. If its such a big bend as to be readily visible, why are people not returning it in the return period? I would. I think the vast majority would. And yet, people here after the return period are complaining about what a rip off. Sure, squint, get your lasers out, find those two hairs worth and obsess.
There simply is no such thing as perfect in retail. There is a reason why even in a costly Mercedes there are mm tolerances in doors etc.
But sure, its a huge bend you didn’t notice in two weeks but now that its pointed out you can see it.
In the meantime I continue to use my fully functional iPad.
Yet they still ain’t hurting. I’d like to be in that position. Darn you Cook!Merry Christmas, Mr. Cook. As if the last two months haven’t been painful enough for Apple — stock price down, iPhone sales likely lower than expected, now they have a rather large PR problem with the new, “best they’ve ever made” iPads.
If I buy a $1K tablet, it sure as s-word shouldn’t rock when I set it down on a table
Honestly if not for articles like this how many average consumers would have even noticed the issue?
Well, it's always easier to blame the CUSTOMER (why did you need to put really in caps?). I have not been using it different than my MBP 15 2015, and this new material just seems to be more sensitive, + the color, it's just terrible for me personally, cause i need to go from office to office, see what problems people have with their computers, run virtual machines on mine at the same time, type some notes, go under the table, go to the serveroom, patch things and on and on, i'm using it on the go, and now i'm scared to move it at all. If u are using it different, then good for you, i guess? Why should i reconsider how to use my 5k machine? Should i adapt my workflow to how apple wants me to use the machine, or use the machine how i need it, i don't get it?
I'm just saying it wouldn't have been bad to know, hey, your new machine is awesome, looks good, but be careful, the material is more sensitive. Is that so bad to ask?
Apple is not a hardware company its and experiences and services company. Bent or not bent it’s irrelevant. iPad is merely a gateway to apple experienceI wonder what the greatest Apple fanboy Rene Ritchie will say about this lol
Here’s how I think the announcement should have gone...
“Apple is aware of a certain number of 2018 iPad Pros that, due to a manufacturing anomaly, may exhibit a slight bend in the chassis. Although not presenting a usage issue, customers that are concerned may bring their device to the nearest Apple Store for a replacement. Apple strives to provide the highest quality products to its valued customers and apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.”
I know that will never happen, but if I was running a trillion dollar company with a reputation for highest quality products and a loyal customer base, that is what I would do.
To me, it’s like this...
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You don’t get to a trillion-dollar valuation replacing bent devices.
I agree. Amazed how well the new iPads are designed. Perhaps my most favorite Apple product.
Maybe I’m misremembering and having a weird case of the Mandela effect, but as far as I remember he didn’t tell people they were holding it wrong. He explained that sometimes when you hold it a certain way it blocks the antenna and that this happens pretty commonly in other phones as well. Even showing clips of them doing the same thing in other phones. So the “you’re holding it wrong” was really just people making fun of apples keynote by mischaracterizing it.Sure. Jobs held a press conference to not apologize for the iPhone 4’s antenna issues. He literally told people they were holding the phone the wrong way.
Very good pointThey're third now behind 1. Amazon 2. Microsoft 3. Apple
Maybe that's why Apple Music is now available through Amazon Echos?
Maybe I’m misremembering and having a weird case of the Mandela effect, but as far as I remember he didn’t tell people they were holding it wrong. He explained that sometimes when you hold it a certain way it blocks the antenna and that this happens pretty commonly in other phones as well. Even showing clips of them doing the same thing in other phones. So the “you’re holding it wrong” was really just people making fun of apples keynote by mischaracterizing it.
Lmfao. Typical Apple. “It’s not a defect. We built them this way”. Wtf?!! Apple is sacrificing quality for money. Strike 2 Apple. You all know what strike 1 was (Apple patent issue with Qualcomm). Disappointed in you Apple.
Shortly after the new 2018 11 and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models shipped out to customers, some MacRumors readers found bends in their tablets. Unsurprisingly, new iPad owners were upset and disappointed to find unwanted defects in devices that cost hundreds of dollars, but according to new information from Apple, a slight bend isn't out of the ordinary.
Apple told The Verge that some 2018 iPad Pro models are indeed shipping with a "very slight bend in the aluminum chassis," which is a "side effect of the manufacturing process" that is not expected to worsen over time or negatively effect the iPad's performance "in any practical way."
Apple says the bend, which can impact both sizes of the new 2018 iPad Pro models, is caused by a cooling process involving the iPad Pro's metal and plastic components during manufacturing. Apple told The Verge that the bend is not considered to be a defect.
2018 iPad Pro models that are exhibiting this problem have it right out of the box, according to Apple, so it does not appear to be an issue that shows up over time. There were videos indicating that the new iPad Pro models bend more easily than other models, but Apple says that concerns over the iPad Pro's "structural rigidity" are "unfounded" and that it "stands by the product." Apple has not experienced higher-than-normal return rates for the 2018 iPad Pro.
The Verge suggests that those who are irritated by the bend "shouldn't have any trouble exchanging or returning" an iPad Pro at an Apple Store, but that statement likely only applies to devices that are still under the return policy. Apple typically does not replace devices experiencing issues that are not considered manufacturing defects, so it's not entirely clear if those with bent tablets outside of the return period will be able to get replacements.
Apple experienced major consumer outcry over a "bendgate" controversy with the iPhone 6 Plus, which saw that iPhone bending due to regular use. Apple rectified the problem with later iPhone models, and given the concern over the potential for a similar issue, it's no surprise that Apple is attempting to reassure customers that this is a manufacturing issue that won't worsen over time.
Despite the fact that iPad Pro models experiencing this minor bend allegedly won't end up with future problems because of it, many iPad Pro users may be unhappy with the slight cosmetic and functional problems caused by an uneven surface.
Article Link: Apple Says Some 2018 iPad Pros Ship Bent, But It's Normal and Not a Defect