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Because Google is the one providing service? How much did you pay for Google Search? As much as you paid for iPhone? You own the iPhone, not Apple. Why Apple is getting paid for everything that's happening on your device? What's next? You buy a TV in Wal-Mart and then you have to pay them a fee for every streaming service you watch on it?
if you have any gaming console Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo are taking a cut on every game they sell.
is it possible to download games from web and play them on these gaming consoles ?
 
Running the App Store costs money. It should be easy to quantify how much, make that data auditable, add a decent margin, and bill that cost to Spotify and other large Apps publishers. This is how it works for electricity, telecom services and other utilities. I don't see why it should not work for the App Store.
we should do the same with all products.
how much does it cost to manufacture iPhone, let apple keep 5% profit margin.
let government determine how much each product service cost.
like how much does it cost to develop Microsoft windows, add 5% profit margin as profit and set the price.
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So if you buy an iphone, your soul belongs to apple!? I didn't read that in the EULA /s
Enjoy being a product.
Buy Android phone, install any app store you want.
you knew that Apple wont let you install third party app store before you purchased iPhone, why did you buy it ?
it's not like Apple was allowing third party app stores when you purchased iPhone and now they stopped it.
Customers need to make the purchasing decision.
 
lot of emotional response in these comments.
people think that Spotify will pass on that 30% commission that Spotify is paying apple, but they won't.
this is about which company gets to keep the money.
If people are thinking that customers are benefiting from this fight you are gullible.
 
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You could never "spread" any program this way. The certificate was only ever valid for the phone for which the app was built using Xcode.

So bottom line, you don’t want to pay the $99 per year to distribute your software that is made with Apple’s constantly updated APIs and XCode.

You want it for free, because your software is “free/open source”.

You want things for free — that’s sweet!

Just post your free code to GitHub and let others who paid the $99 build and distribute the app on the App Store.

Heck, if it’s good, they might be able to monetize it (giving you credit, of course).
 
You want things for free — that’s sweet!
I want to run my own programs on my own phone and not have to compile them once per week. I don't think it should be necessary to pay 99 dollars for this privilege. The phone was expensive enough.
 
Been an iPhone user since 2007, they just build better devices period. Doesn't mean I think that Apple's walled garden is good or necessary.


I can. But I can't then in a reasonable way distribute my open source software to people, and if I don't pay $99/year I can't even keep my own software running on the very expensive phone I've already paid for, unless I keep reinstalling it every week...

Another “I deserve free stuff” person — I bought an iPhone, therefore I should be able to build and distribute software for free!

$99 is an absurd fee for me to use the APIs and XCode Apple develops to distribute my software — JUST GIVE IT TO ME!!!
 
I want to run my own programs on my own phone and not have to compile them once per week. I don't think it should be necessary to pay 99 dollars for this privilege. The phone was expensive enough.

I bought a phone — now give me free dev tools and APIs and don’t inconvenience me with recompiling an app weekly!!

Do you hear yourself?

You “deserve” something you didn’t pay for — sounds pretty entitled 😉
 
Another “I deserve free stuff” person — I bought an iPhone, therefore I should be able to build and distribute software for free!

$99 is an absurd fee for me to use the APIs and XCode Apple develops to distribute my software — JUST GIVE IT TO ME!!!
As a developer no, but as a user yes, $99/year is ridiculous just to be allowed to install apps on my own $1000 phone. No other general purpose OS works like that. And actually, yeah, it is a problem for open source that you're required to pay $99/year just to install and ship stuff, not everyone is a full time iOS dev, it's a community effort to build open source software. That said, it doesn't need to be XCode, the open source community would be happy to only use the open source compiler with VSCodium as editor. But you're obviously a troll so that'll be enough of my time I've devoted to you.
 
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Do you hear yourself?

You “deserve” something you didn’t pay for — sounds pretty entitled 😉
Would you accept this kind of crap if we were talking about your car?

Yes, you can change your tires, but you have to buy our tires, and also buy this 99 dollar tool from us, because your normal wrench will not work.
 
Right, I don't support smoking or vaping personally, but Apple has no right to categorically decide that vaping apps are not allowed to ever grace the presence of their precious little iPhone users home screens.
Well they do actually. If you want vape apps other platforms support it.
Ditto cloud gaming, I am personally against the concept of streaming games rendered in the cloud (for many reasons, prime of which being I play FPS games and the delay just makes it untenable, but also the fact that I don't like paying subscription fees in general) but if people like that then who are Apple to decide that that's not allowed? Porn apps? Etc.


My father didn't buy his iPhone, it was given to him by his company, no other options. Sure, that's a special case, but my point is there are lots of people running around with iPhones they didn't really choose themselves.
There are two billion plus users. I imagine there are a good percentage that made a choice to buy apple. Whether the best of the best in the best or the worst doesn’t matter.
Plus the entire concept that someone else gets to decide if a certain app category is allowed to exist or not should be revolting.
I don’t think many believe it’s revolting.
And also, it's not a concept normal people think about, they just see a phone that's capable of downloading the Twitter app, they don't realise or even understand what it means that they won't be allowed to install an open source version of the Twitter app simply because it was GPL3 licensed and Apple does not allow any GPL3 software on the App Store.
I don’t think people care enough. They look at a phone as a tool to do a,b and c. If they can do a,b, c they are happy.
 
Would you accept this kind of crap if we were talking about your car?
My car is even more locked down than an iPhone….so bad example.
Yes, you can change your tires, but you have to buy our tires, and also buy this 99 dollar tool from us, because your normal wrench will not work.
You want an upgrade, you have to pay $99 for an upgrade and we have to do it.
 
As a developer no, but as a user yes, $99/year is ridiculous just to be allowed to install apps on my own $1000 phone. No other general purpose OS works like that. And actually, yeah, it is a problem for open source that you're required to pay $99/year just to install and ship stuff, not everyone is a full time iOS dev, it's a community effort to build open source software. That said, it doesn't need to be XCode, the open source community would be happy to only use the open source compiler with VSCodium as editor. But you're obviously a troll so that'll be enough of my time I've devoted to you.
Please let me know when the open source community releases their free phone, OS, APIs and FreeStore (powered by free unicorn kisses).

That will be Nirvana fosho!
 
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My car is even more locked down than an iPhone….so bad example.

You want an upgrade, you have to pay $99 for an upgrade and we have to do it.
I get the feeling, that you would sell your grandmother, if it was a prerequisit to use your iPhone, haha. Just joking.

If this is how you roll, fine. I have some hope that the rest of the world is more sane, and that we will get more legislation that will strengthen consumer rights here in the EU. The train started moving with the DMA.
 
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Please let me know when the open source community releases their free phone, OS, APIs and FreeStore (powered by free unicorn kisses).
You're making fun of open source. But corporate behemoths like Apple, Amazon, or even Microsoft, would not exist without it. Open source software is running the Internet and most of the servers you rely on.
 
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I get the feeling, that you would sell your grandmother, if it was a prerequisit to use your iPhone, haha. Just joking.

If this is how you roll, fine. I have some hope that the rest of the world is more sane, and that we will get more legislation that will strengthen consumer right here in the EU. The train started moving with the DMA.
Maybe the EU needs an innovative company to build a phone, OS and prerequisite APIs that will support all the consumer rights you feel are being destroyed by these terrible ’Murican companies.

Get ‘er done!
 
You're making fun of open source. But corporate behemoths like Apple, Amazon, or even Microsoft, would not exist without it. Open source software is running the Internet and most of the servers you rely on.
Not making fun at all — I use and support open source.

But there is a universe of difference between using/supporting open source and expecting for profit companies to adopt an open source model.

My point is it *requires* a profit incentive (and lots of money) to build a phone, OS, APIs and App Store.

Open source ain’t gonna do it.
 
I get the feeling, that you would sell your grandmother, if it was a prerequisit to use your iPhone, haha. Just joking.

If this is how you roll, fine. I have some hope that the rest of the world is more sane, and that we will get more legislation that will strengthen consumer rights here in the EU. The train started moving with the DMA.
Strengthening consumer rights means buying things that meet your requirements. It’s a simple concept.
 
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