Apple Says There Won't Be a 27-Inch iMac With Apple Silicon

[bobcomer]

Ask yourself why you are talking about battery life when we are talking about a Laptop which will be connected to power 24/7.

I'm not talking about battery life, this is a thread about iMacs and AiO's. Lets just ignore laptops in this thread.

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

Can't find it now, I must have misremembered, but even a 12th gen would be an upgrade from anything else I have as long as I got enough RAM with it. But like I said, I didn't buy it, though it's interesting with a 5K monitor and i9 available. I really want smaller than a 34" screen.

Well as I said before you can go rocking with that 27" 1080p one which they have. You could also get a Mac Mini, a Vesa mount and make your own AIO with whatever monitor you want. I think one of the reasons Apple is not making a 27" iMac is because there are many options now, in the past an iMac made sense they were power houses, now a Macbook Pro has almost the same performance that a Mac Pro/Mac Studio has.

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

I'm not talking about battery life, this is a thread about iMacs and AiO's. Lets just ignore laptops in this thread.

Well you have mentioned batteries a few times, from swollen batteries to not wanting to have half the battery life for your AIO that is connected to mains power 24/7. You also mentioned how you don't want to wear out your ports on your laptop which again is not an issue if the laptop is being used as desktop.

Now you have been talking about AIO's, the only problem is you are talking about Models from HP that do not exist.

I suggest you go out and buy that 27" HP with a 1080p monitor, looks like a great PC for a non pros that just want to surf the web.

 

[bobcomer]

Well as I said before you can go rocking with that 27" 1080p one which they have.

I could, but I doubt it. 1080p is actually enough for my kind of work, but I probably would want an even smaller display than that. 24" is actually a good size for me. I don't do video at all, I'm an IT Manager, I do admin, development, testing, things like that, and that means VM's as well -- and that's where the 24" iMac fails for me -- not enough RAM.

I suggest you go out and buy that 27" HP with a 1080p monitor, looks like a great PC for a non pros that just want to surf the web.

Er, go out and buy one for yourself, I wasn't asking for advice. And you cannot define my needs.

 

[bobcomer]

You could also get a Mac Mini, a Vesa mount and make your own AIO with whatever monitor you want. I think one of the reasons Apple is not making a 27" iMac is because there are many options now, in the past an iMac made sense they were power houses, now a Macbook Pro has almost the same performance that a Mac Pro/Mac Studio has.

I could, I even already have a Mini as one of my computers (M2 Pro, 2TB, 32G), but that's a total kludge to tack it to a monitor -- kind of big and heavy too, and most monitor stands couldn't take it.

There is lots of other options I agree, but I guess I can't want a Mac.

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

I could, I even already have a Mini as one of my computers (M2 Pro, 2TB, 32G), but that's a total kludge to tack it to a monitor -- kind of big and heavy too, and most monitor stands couldn't take it.

There is lots of other options I agree, but I guess I can't want a Mac.

You can buy third party stands for $100, much cheaper than spending $4000 on an iMac. I'm kinda like you and don't care about retina so a 5120 x 2880 display would be a waste of money for me, that's why I went with 2 x 1440P 34" monitors. With proper cable management (C14 Male To C13 C7 Female Power Cord)all you would need is 1 power cable going to the setup and 1 thunderbolt/USB-C cable going from the Mac to the Display(around 12" long)

 

[bobcomer]

You can buy third party stands for $100, much cheaper than spending $4000 on an iMac. I'm kinda like you and don't care about retina so a 5120 x 2880 display would be a waste of money for me, that's why I went with 2 x 1440P 34" monitors. With proper cable management (C14 Male To C13 C7 Female Power Cord)all you would need is 1 power cable going to the setup and 1 thunderbolt/USB-C cable going from the Mac to the Display(around 12" long)

I don't like that particular stand, but it definitely is a thought...

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

I don't like that particular stand, but it definitely is a thought...

I agree, I only used that picture because it had the Mac Mini in it. It really depends on your setup

 

[fathergll]

You're going to be told something like the Odyssey G9 which is 5,120 x 1,440 is just as good (or better) like I was told earlier in here.

No. I made a separate post(not to you) stating that I prefer 49" ultrawide monitors over a 27" retina display(I own a Apple 27" 5k display as well). That doesn't mean it does everything better, that's just my opinion that I like having massive screen real estate over a 27" screen that has a higher PPI.

I also made a post to someone else who asked if there was a "5K HDR display with 120hz" and I responded with a "5K HDR display with 240hz" and then you decided to butt in and then use incorrect terminology about why it wasn't 5k and myself and another member here had to correct you about what 5k actually means. If we are speaking the same lexicon this isn't an issue. Not my fault you don't understand what 5k means. If you are referring to PPI then say PPI.

 

[sdugoten]

As I said then and saying now: If Apple in the year 2023 can offer a base 24" iMac at $1,300, they could easily offer a base 27" iMac at $2,000

People don't want a 27" iMac Pro. They want a larger iMac. Period.

Yes, they can offer a base 27" iMac at $2000 *technically*. But the point is that they would not want to do that because they now have the Mac Studio. As they confirmed, they will not do it, period.

I understand people want a cheap larger iMac. As they confirmed they would not do a 27" iMac, the 30/32" iMac would not happen either. The reason is that all Apple computer have a requirement called "retina display". Whatever computer screen they use, it has to meet this minimum requirement for the screen resolution. (thats why the 24 inch imac comes with that wierd 4.5k resolution) For a 27" they need a 5K resolution.

So, if they bump it up to 30/32", it will be a 6K resolution monitor *at the minimum* due to the retina display requirement.

I wouldn't expect that will come cheap for a 6K resolution iMac. Definity not the price range that people who "don't want a iMac Pro but just a larger iMac" would expect. And I highly doubt Apple would make an exception to make a cheap bigger iMac that is not having retina display just to make things cost less. At least that is not what Apple usually do in the past 20 years. (lets look at how much they charge you 16GB ram on a base model iMac in 2023 and you should know the cheaper larger iMac wouldn't be cheap)

I mean...forget it, just move on and get another computer.

 

[rockboy]

Apple has confirmed to The Verge and some other publications that it has no plans to release a new 27-inch iMac with Apple silicon.

Apple discontinued both the Intel-based 27-inch iMac and iMac Pro over the past two years, and it has yet to launch a larger-screen iMac with an Apple silicon chip as a replacement, leaving the recently-updated 24-inch iMac with the M3 chip as its only all-in-one desktop computer. For customers who want a larger or higher-end desktop, Apple recommends pairing the 27-inch Studio Display with a Mac Studio or Mac mini.

From the report:Apple has only ruled out a new 27-inch iMac, so a larger-screened iMac is still possible. Last month, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said Apple was still developing an iMac Pro with a 32-inch display for release in late 2024 or in 2025. Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo also expects a 32-inch iMac with mini-LED display backlighting to launch in 2025.

Article Link: Apple Says There Won't Be a 27-Inch iMac With Apple Silicon

The Studio display is SDR only. Discontinuing the 27" iMac is a monumentally bad idea. So is forcing current users to upgrade to a future expensive iMac Pro or downgrade to the 24" iMac. Apple is losing touch with us users.

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

Yes, they can offer a base 27" iMac at $2000 *technically*. But the point is that they would not want to do that because they now have the Mac Studio. As they confirmed, they will not do it, period.

I understand people want a cheap larger iMac. As they confirmed they would not do a 27" iMac, the 30/32" iMac would not happen either. The reason is that all Apple computer have a requirement called "retina display". Whatever computer screen they use, it has to meet this minimum requirement for the screen resolution. (thats why the 24 inch imac comes with that wierd 4.5k resolution) For a 27" they need a 5K resolution.

So, if they bump it up to 30/32", it will be a 6K resolution monitor *at the minimum* due to the retina display requirement.

I wouldn't expect that will come cheap for a 6K resolution iMac. Definity not the price range that people who "don't want a iMac Pro but just a larger iMac" would expect. And I highly doubt Apple would make an exception to make a cheap bigger iMac that is not having retina display just to make things cost less. At least that is not what Apple usually do in the past 20 years. (lets look at how much they charge you 16GB ram on a base model iMac in 2023 and you should know the cheaper larger iMac wouldn't be cheap)

I mean...forget it, just move on and get another computer.

Apple Should just put a M3 chip in a Pro Display XDR, include the stand and charge 7K, these power users will lap it up.

 

[JimmyG]

You can buy third party stands for $100, much cheaper than spending $4000 on an iMac. I'm kinda like you and don't care about retina so a 5120 x 2880 display would be a waste of money for me, that's why I went with 2 x 1440P 34" monitors. With proper cable management (C14 Male To C13 C7 Female Power Cord)all you would need is 1 power cable going to the setup and 1 thunderbolt/USB-C cable going from the Mac to the Display(around 12" long)

Okay, I'll bite.

Thanks for putting an actual visual to an idea I've read here on these forums suggesting that, er, velcroing or otherwise attaching in some unknown fashion a Mini to the back of a Studio display somehow = 27" iMac AIO in simplicity and elegance! LOL You've saved myself and other 27" iMac users countless hours at our keyboards trying to talk sense to such impracticalities and absurdities. Perhaps "Apple PR representative Starlayne Meza" could have used those pictures in her press moment this past week! Ha!

This holiday season Tim's singular-offering, a rainbow of a 24" AIO flavors, will be vying to be market leader against the PC world's marketplace of AIO iMac knockoff variants.

#1 PC maker Lenovo offers direct competition with both 21" and 23.8" AIO's...

All-In-One Computers - Space-Saving and Stylish PCs | Lenovo US

All-In-One Computers Sale - Space-Saving and Stylish AIO PCs

Shop for the best all-in-one computers from Lenovo. Explore our style and high-performance (AIO) all-in-one PCs with powerful processors, vivid displays, and sleek designs ideal for work and play.

www.lenovo.com

#2 HP (the only Major Desktop maker showing any actual growth for the past 12-month YoY period of 6.4%) offers up 6 different sizes (34", 32" 27", 24", 23", 21") of iMac knockoffs (chins and all! Ha!) across 3 different line (Desktop, Pavilion, Envy)...

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs | HP® Official Site

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs

For work, play, gaming, or entertainment, there’s an HP desktop or all-in-one just for you. Learn more about our HP desktops and all-in-ones here.

www.hp.com

#3 Dell is an iMac knockoff player with its own two lines of chinned Inspiron's and OptiPlex's available in 24" and 27"...

All-in-One Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs - Shop Dell Desktops Computers & All-in-One PCs. Discover the latest XPS, Inspiron, OptiPlex and Precision desktops or Gaming PCs. Free shipping & returns.

www.dell.com

#4 Apple has taken the consumer AIO desktop field this holiday season with it's sole (actual) iMac, a 24" (free chin included! LOL)...

Buy iMac - Apple

Buy iMac

Get an iMac all-in-one desktop computer with M4 chip when you trade in an eligible Mac for credit. Built for Apple Intelligence. Buy now.

www.apple.com

#5 Asus rounds out the pack of major AIO makers with their Zen AiO and Asus AiO lines offering 23" 24", 27" iMac knockoffs (cough, with chins)...

All-in-One PCs - All series｜ASUS USA

All-in-One PCs - All seriesï½ASUS USA

ROG & TUF keyboards provide best-in-class gaming features and elevates gamers' experience.

www.asus.com

It's wishful thinking on Apple's PR and Mac Teams parts (and the vocal Studio/Mini coterie) that somehow their long-cultivated 27" iMac user base is going to somehow "see some sort of light" and take the, er, advice from this week's presser and become Studio/Studio Display and Mini buyers.

Straight up, Apple is at serious risk of losing their 27" iMac user base, that's real in both actual dollars and unit sales, not to mention actual diehard, long-term customers. That they've gone into the 2023 holiday shopping quarter with zero larger-than-24" AIO offerings is a decision that they and their 27" iMac user base (and we shareholders) will have to "live with". We'll all be reading Q1 2024 reports shortly.

And their iMac-knockoff AIO competitors couldn't be happier this holiday season as they continue stealing Tim's AIO lunch! $$,$$$,$$$,$$$, ho, ho, ho!

My 2¢ morning market analysis.

 

[Abdichoudxyz]

Okay, I'll bite.

Thanks for putting an actual visual to an idea I've read here on these forums suggesting that, er, velcroing or otherwise attaching in some unknown fashion a Mini to the back of a Studio display somehow = 27" iMac AIO in simplicity and elegance! LOL You've saved myself and other 27" iMac users countless hours at our keyboards trying to talk sense to such impracticalities and absurdities. Perhaps "Apple PR representative Starlayne Meza" could have used those pictures in her press moment this past week! Ha!

This holiday season Tim's singular-offering, a rainbow of a 24" AIO flavors, will be vying to be market leader against the PC world's marketplace of AIO iMac knockoff variants.

#1 PC maker Lenovo offers direct competition with both 21" and 23.8"...

All-In-One Computers - Space-Saving and Stylish PCs | Lenovo US

All-In-One Computers Sale - Space-Saving and Stylish AIO PCs

Shop for the best all-in-one computers from Lenovo. Explore our style and high-performance (AIO) all-in-one PCs with powerful processors, vivid displays, and sleek designs ideal for work and play.

www.lenovo.com

#2 HP (the only Major Desktop maker showing any actual growth for the past 12-month YoY period of 6.4%) offers up 6 different sizes (34", 32" 27", 24", 23", 21") of iMac knockoffs (chins and all! Ha!) across 3 different line (Desktop, Pavilion, Envy)...

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs | HP® Official Site

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs

For work, play, gaming, or entertainment, there’s an HP desktop or all-in-one just for you. Learn more about our HP desktops and all-in-ones here.

www.hp.com

#3 Dell is an iMac knockoff player with its own two lines of chinned Inspiron's and OptiPlex's available in 24" and 27"...

All-in-One Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs - Shop Dell Desktops Computers & All-in-One PCs. Discover the latest XPS, Inspiron, OptiPlex and Precision desktops or Gaming PCs. Free shipping & returns.

www.dell.com

#4 Apple has taken the consumer AIO desktop field this holiday season with it's sole (actual) iMac, a 24" (free chin included! LOL)...

Buy iMac - Apple

Buy iMac

Get an iMac all-in-one desktop computer with M4 chip when you trade in an eligible Mac for credit. Built for Apple Intelligence. Buy now.

www.apple.com

#5 Asus rounds out the pack of major AIO makers with their Zen AiO and Asus AiO lines offering 23" 24", 27" iMac knockoffs (cough, with chins)...

All-in-One PCs - All series｜ASUS USA

All-in-One PCs - All seriesï½ASUS USA

ROG & TUF keyboards provide best-in-class gaming features and elevates gamers' experience.

www.asus.com

It's wishful thinking on Apple's PR and Mac Teams parts (and the vocal Studio/Mini coterie) that somehow their long-cultivated 27" iMac user base is going to somehow "see some sort of light" and take the, er, advice from this week's presser and become Studio/Studio Display and Mini buyers.

Straight up, Apple is at serious risk of losing their 27" iMac user base, that's real in both actual dollars and unit sales. That they've gone into the 2023 holiday shopping quarter with zero larger-than-24" AIO offerings is a decision that they and their 27" iMac user base (and we shareholders) will have to "live with". We'll all be reading Q1 2024 reports shortly.

And their iMac-knockoff AIO competitors couldn't be happier this holiday season as they continue stealing Tim's AIO lunch! $$,$$$,$$$,$$$, ho, ho, ho!

My 2¢ morning market analysis.

Compared to the iMac, they're all quite nasty really, aren't they?

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

Okay, I'll bite.

Thanks for putting an actual visual to an idea I've read here on these forums suggesting that, er, velcroing or otherwise attaching in some unknown fashion a Mini to the back of a Studio display somehow = 27" iMac AIO in simplicity and elegance! LOL You've saved myself and other 27" iMac users countless hours at our keyboards trying to talk sense to such impracticalities and absurdities. Perhaps "Apple PR representative Starlayne Meza" could have used those pictures in her press moment this past week! Ha!

This holiday season Tim's singular-offering, a rainbow of a 24" AIO flavors, will be vying to be market leader against the PC world's marketplace of AIO iMac knockoff variants.

#1 PC maker Lenovo offers direct competition with both 21" and 23.8" AIO's...

All-In-One Computers - Space-Saving and Stylish PCs | Lenovo US

All-In-One Computers Sale - Space-Saving and Stylish AIO PCs

Shop for the best all-in-one computers from Lenovo. Explore our style and high-performance (AIO) all-in-one PCs with powerful processors, vivid displays, and sleek designs ideal for work and play.

www.lenovo.com

#2 HP (the only Major Desktop maker showing any actual growth for the past 12-month YoY period of 6.4%) offers up 6 different sizes (34", 32" 27", 24", 23", 21") of iMac knockoffs (chins and all! Ha!) across 3 different line (Desktop, Pavilion, Envy)...

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs | HP® Official Site

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs

For work, play, gaming, or entertainment, there’s an HP desktop or all-in-one just for you. Learn more about our HP desktops and all-in-ones here.

www.hp.com

#3 Dell is an iMac knockoff player with its own two lines of chinned Inspiron's and OptiPlex's available in 24" and 27"...

All-in-One Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs - Shop Dell Desktops Computers & All-in-One PCs. Discover the latest XPS, Inspiron, OptiPlex and Precision desktops or Gaming PCs. Free shipping & returns.

www.dell.com

#4 Apple has taken the consumer AIO desktop field this holiday season with it's sole (actual) iMac, a 24" (free chin included! LOL)...

Buy iMac - Apple

Buy iMac

Get an iMac all-in-one desktop computer with M4 chip when you trade in an eligible Mac for credit. Built for Apple Intelligence. Buy now.

www.apple.com

#5 Asus rounds out the pack of major AIO makers with their Zen AiO and Asus AiO lines offering 23" 24", 27" iMac knockoffs (cough, with chins)...

All-in-One PCs - All series｜ASUS USA

All-in-One PCs - All seriesï½ASUS USA

ROG & TUF keyboards provide best-in-class gaming features and elevates gamers' experience.

www.asus.com

It's wishful thinking on Apple's PR and Mac Teams parts (and the vocal Studio/Mini coterie) that somehow their long-cultivated 27" iMac user base is going to somehow "see some sort of light" and take the, er, advice from this week's presser and become Studio/Studio Display and Mini buyers.

Straight up, Apple is at serious risk of losing their 27" iMac user base, that's real in both actual dollars and unit sales, not to mention actual diehard, long-term customers. That they've gone into the 2023 holiday shopping quarter with zero larger-than-24" AIO offerings is a decision that they and their 27" iMac user base (and we shareholders) will have to "live with". We'll all be reading Q1 2024 reports shortly.

And their iMac-knockoff AIO competitors couldn't be happier this holiday season as they continue stealing Tim's AIO lunch! $$,$$$,$$$,$$$, ho, ho, ho!

My 2¢ morning market analysis.

These iMac users will never put a Windows AIO on their desk, it's beneath them.

 

[Abdichoudxyz]

Ugh, what is that monstrosity??? 🤢🤮

(The computer, not the people.They actually look quite lovely)

 

[JimmyG]

Compared to the iMac, they're all quite nasty really, aren't they?

I agree, wholeheartedly! Nasty-looking, low-rez displays, processors that can't hold a candle to M3, etc..

But they've all got the one thing this holiday season that Apple has decided isn't worth their time and effort to offer any longer...the simplicity of plug-it-in and turn-it-on, no fuss no muss in a variety of compelling configurations and sizes for various users.

Jobs had it right decades ago, computing appliances for the masses. And they've been doing it for decades now with iPods, iPhones, iPads and MBPs, etc. ever since their iMac resurrection days.

But today their Mac and PR departments have suddenly decided that the all-in-one Macintosh, iMac, the computer that saved their company and has provided decades of bedrock followers and revenue is no longer worth their dev time and energy to make even more "insanely great"?!

From my business read, it "stinks" of contempt within the Mac Department, something that Tim clearly needs to address. "Kill off the company's iconic model" was ever a winning strategy for any company?

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

Okay, I'll bite.

Thanks for putting an actual visual to an idea I've read here on these forums suggesting that, er, velcroing or otherwise attaching in some unknown fashion a Mini to the back of a Studio display somehow = 27" iMac AIO in simplicity and elegance! LOL You've saved myself and other 27" iMac users countless hours at our keyboards trying to talk sense to such impracticalities and absurdities. Perhaps "Apple PR representative Starlayne Meza" could have used those pictures in her press moment this past week! Ha!

This holiday season Tim's singular-offering, a rainbow of a 24" AIO flavors, will be vying to be market leader against the PC world's marketplace of AIO iMac knockoff variants.

#1 PC maker Lenovo offers direct competition with both 21" and 23.8" AIO's...

All-In-One Computers - Space-Saving and Stylish PCs | Lenovo US

All-In-One Computers Sale - Space-Saving and Stylish AIO PCs

Shop for the best all-in-one computers from Lenovo. Explore our style and high-performance (AIO) all-in-one PCs with powerful processors, vivid displays, and sleek designs ideal for work and play.

www.lenovo.com

#2 HP (the only Major Desktop maker showing any actual growth for the past 12-month YoY period of 6.4%) offers up 6 different sizes (34", 32" 27", 24", 23", 21") of iMac knockoffs (chins and all! Ha!) across 3 different line (Desktop, Pavilion, Envy)...

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs | HP® Official Site

HP Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs

For work, play, gaming, or entertainment, there’s an HP desktop or all-in-one just for you. Learn more about our HP desktops and all-in-ones here.

www.hp.com

#3 Dell is an iMac knockoff player with its own two lines of chinned Inspiron's and OptiPlex's available in 24" and 27"...

All-in-One Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers | Dell USA

All In One - Desktop Computers and All-in-One PCs - Shop Dell Desktops Computers & All-in-One PCs. Discover the latest XPS, Inspiron, OptiPlex and Precision desktops or Gaming PCs. Free shipping & returns.

www.dell.com

#4 Apple has taken the consumer AIO desktop field this holiday season with it's sole (actual) iMac, a 24" (free chin included! LOL)...

Buy iMac - Apple

Buy iMac

Get an iMac all-in-one desktop computer with M4 chip when you trade in an eligible Mac for credit. Built for Apple Intelligence. Buy now.

www.apple.com

#5 Asus rounds out the pack of major AIO makers with their Zen AiO and Asus AiO lines offering 23" 24", 27" iMac knockoffs (cough, with chins)...

All-in-One PCs - All series｜ASUS USA

All-in-One PCs - All seriesï½ASUS USA

ROG & TUF keyboards provide best-in-class gaming features and elevates gamers' experience.

www.asus.com

It's wishful thinking on Apple's PR and Mac Teams parts (and the vocal Studio/Mini coterie) that somehow their long-cultivated 27" iMac user base is going to somehow "see some sort of light" and take the, er, advice from this week's presser and become Studio/Studio Display and Mini buyers.

Straight up, Apple is at serious risk of losing their 27" iMac user base, that's real in both actual dollars and unit sales, not to mention actual diehard, long-term customers. That they've gone into the 2023 holiday shopping quarter with zero larger-than-24" AIO offerings is a decision that they and their 27" iMac user base (and we shareholders) will have to "live with". We'll all be reading Q1 2024 reports shortly.

And their iMac-knockoff AIO competitors couldn't be happier this holiday season as they continue stealing Tim's AIO lunch! $$,$$$,$$$,$$$, ho, ho, ho!

My 2¢ morning market analysis.

A good compromise would be if Apple made the Mac Mini smaller with no internal power supply and made a display where you could easily mount the Mac mini to the back powered with USB C. They could even sell the bracket for 100$ or something, either way I think most people would be happy. If Apple and their customers actually want to lower their carbon footprint, this would be a great way to start.

This solution would also be better for people that want duel displays as it is very hard to match the iMac display for a dual setup.

 

[JimmyG]

These iMac users will never put a Windows AIO on their desk, it's beneath them.

There will be millions of "new computer" shoppers globally this holiday season looking for AIO solutions, where is Apple's competing model?

As for 27" iMac, er, "defectors" going to Windows? Count on Tim knowing those numbers.

I wouldn't want to be a Mac Team member come the first week of January next year when Tim calls them in to explain their holiday sales numbers...or lack thereof.

 

[JimmyG]

A good compromise would be if Apple made the Mac Mini smaller with no internal power supply and made a display where you could easily mount the Mac mini to the back powered with USB C. They could even sell the bracket for 100$ or something, either way I think most people would be happy. If Apple and their customers actually want to lower their carbon footprint, this would be a great way to start.

This solution would also be better for people that want duel displays as it is very hard to match the iMac display for a dual setup.

I've been an advocate here on these boards for the "modular M(x) iMac" concept for the very reasons you state...it provides display reusability, provides configuration flexibility, provides processor choice and upgrade-ability, and significantly lowers user's carbon footprints.

What do you think the odds are that Apple or their iMac knockoff competitors will provide us concept royalties when their AIO's go modular?! LOL

 

[Bobby Smallwood]

There will be millions of "new computer" shoppers globally this holiday season looking for AIO solutions, where is Apple's competing model?

As for 27" iMac, er, "defectors" going to Windows? Count on Tim knowing those numbers.

I wouldn't want to be a Mac Team member come the first week of January next year when Tim calls them in to explain their holiday sales numbers...or lack thereof.

Most of those windows AIO's are garbage with crappy 1080P displays, if they are first time computer shoppers I bet they will be turned off from windows and never buy another windows product again, win win for Apple. Jokes aside, I'm pretty sure Apple knows what they are doing

 

[Abdichoudxyz]

But today their Mac and PR departments have suddenly decided that the all-in-one Macintosh, iMac, the computer that saved their company and has provided decades of bedrock followers and revenue is no longer worth their dev time and energy to make even more "insanely great"?!

From my business read, it "stinks" of contempt within the Mac Department, something that Tim clearly needs to address. "Kill off the company's iconic model" was ever a winning strategy for any company?

Eh? What are you on about?

The current iMac is a wonderful thing. I know, because I bought one. I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't wonderful. I love it as much as I did my first Mac, an iMac G3. Which, if you'll remember, came in one size....

 

[JimmyG]

Most of those windows AIO's are garbage with crappy 1080P displays, if they are first time computer shoppers I bet they will be turned off from windows and never buy another windows product again, win win for Apple. Jokes aside, I'm pretty sure Apple knows what they are doing

Two things here to unpack...

First, I, personally, would never presume to tell anyone how they should spend their hard-earned dollars. Fact is, not every shopper has the budget even for the lowest-priced 24" iMac. If one's budget can only buy 1080P then that's what will get purchased. And there are plenty of sub-$1K iMac knockoffs for sale this holiday season for which Apple has no competition.

Second, as an investor and shareholder, "blind faith" is not in my lexicon. I never presume to trust that anyone "knows what they are doing" in any venture involving human beings! LOL And that goes for the tens of thousands of folks at Apple. They're no different from any other enterprise in this regard and they are not immune from making incredible blunders.

 

[JimmyG]

Eh? What are you on about?

The current iMac is a wonderful thing. I know, because I bought one. I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't wonderful. I love it as much as I did my first Mac, an iMac G3. Which, if you'll remember, came in one size....

I've confined my comments to the 27" iMac presser from this week, not the current 24" model. My apologies if my writing was not clearer and caused any confusion.

 

[Abdichoudxyz]

I've confined my comments to the 27" iMac presser from this week, not the current 24" model. My apologies if my writing was not clearer and caused any confusion.

But there will be no 27" iMac. Apple have said this. There is only one iMac, the current 24" one. If you want a Mac with a 27" display, there are plenty of options. I really don't know what the problem is. 🤷‍♂️