No no no. I used my iPad 1 until the iPad Air came out and Safari was terrible. It would constantly crash even on basic web sites. Maybe it was fine in iOS 3.x, but 5.x had problems.
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This, they probably new ahead of time this 6S release was going to be boring. So had to save some perks.
Shock horror: company released new product, old product has worse specs than the new one.
MacRumors should add the word "RAM" to the swear filter in the iOS sections.
MacRumors should add the word "RAM" to the swear filter in the iOS sections.
I haven't experienced it. Doesn't make me a liar, more like an under-user (great English, huh)... I must not be pushing my phone that hard. I have had tab reloads, but not often.
You're trying to talk sense with users who only care about how something looks, whether their friends approve it, etc. Specs? Lag? That's a foreign language to them.
Here's all you need to know. The Plus had a bigger screen. Yippee. It looked different. Awesome! They got some attention the first few months because the Plus was in low supply. Cool!
Unfortunately the internet has become infested with these type of users. The blogs cater to them. Reviewers are the same way. We hardly saw any of them mention the lag or stuttering. It's nearly impossible now to find a review that just dives into performance.
And these forums are full of people who honestly believe that because they are experiencing issues, EVERYONE must be experiencing issues. And everyone who doesn't agree with their point of view must be an apologist (I automatically disregard the views of anyone who uses this term).
I personally haven't noticed any difference between my 6+ and my old 5S. In fact, if I put my 6+ next to my old 5S (which my mother now has) I see no difference in UI performance. I've never experienced audio choppiness when spotify is in the background, either when browsing in safari or playing a game (protip: low memory doesn't cause audio choppiness, that would be caused by a lack of CPU time available to the audio decoding process).
Seeing jetsam events is normal through the way that iOS manages memory. With 2GB, or even 4GB you're still going to see jetsam events.
I admit that a few people have problems, or expect absolute perfection - perfectly smooth animations 24/7 and no glitches. That's never going to happen - no matter what phone you have. I'm just completely sick of seeing this blamed on memory. Low memory doesn't cause UI lag (another protip: iOS prioritises UI interactions). Or audio choppiness. Or the vast majority of things that armchair experts on here seem to claim in the 5,000 threads on this subject.
That is a very sweeping statement which has absolutely no proof and shows your limited knowledge in this area. UI smoothness isn't directly related to free memory (feel free to test - use up a bunch of RAM on your Mac and see how laggy the UI becomes - hint: it won't).
How do you know? Have you analysed the memory allocation algorithms apple use in iOS 9.1 beta?
Plus, the clue's in the name. beta. 1. it's unfinished. 2. it will have additional logging in place, which will use additional cpu cycles and memory.
We had perfect smoothness with iPhone 5 on iOS 6.
And yes, low RAM doesn't cause UI stuttering, but under powered GPU does. 6 Plus should have had a 6-core GPU to offset for the significantly higher resolution (and downsampling).
Why doesn't the iPad Air 2 suffer from UI stutters? Because it has a massively powerful 8-core GPU, 2x faster than the 6 Plus one.
Exactly
I've been in the gym listening to music and have pulled out my phone a few times to check a message or something on Safari to find the Music totally stutter or stop altogether or even the Messages app simply freeze up and not respond to my screen presses for a good 5-10 seconds.
The 6 Plus was clearly underpowered and there's no denying that. Unless people only switch between two apps and have like 3 total safari pages open, they will notice the lag and page refreshes.
The refreshes are particularly annoying because you cannot type something in one app, switch to another one, then switch back without the first app being refreshed and erasing all text previously entered. I've even had my Google Maps route erased while driving because the entire app had to refresh.
We might see some reviewers say crap like "I had no idea the old 6 Plus was that slow because this new 6S Plus is so much faster. But now that I've been using the 6S Plus for a week, I could never go back. Typical Apple. Giving me things I didn't know I wanted. This is the best iphone I've ever used! And it's pink too! I just love it!"
The blind faithful didn't really bash the ipad 3 for being slow til later ipads came out. Same with this.
The blind faithful didn't really bash the ipad 3 for being slow til later ipads came out. Same with this.
Yep, and when the iPhone 7 comes out, people will moan that their iPhone 6S is slow, laggy, is too thick, or whatever.
We get the same crap at every revision. People just need to learn that if, like most people, they do the 2 year upgrade cycle, they're going to have an old phone for a year.
http://bgr.com/2015/09/14/jimmy-kimmel-iphone-6s-video/
Here's your typical iphone users. These are the ones targeted by Apple. These are the ones who chime in on forums wondering what lag?
Here's your typical iphone users. These are the ones targeted by Apple. These are the ones who chime in on forums wondering what lag?
As has been shown quite abundantly in the iPad forums, there will always be people who see a stutter or glitch on their iDevice and immediately point to there being not enough RAM. Never mind the fact that tab reloads continue to be an issue on 2GB devices, and unless something significant has changed in iOS9 (haven't beta'd it), 4GB won't solve the issue either. Yet, the 4GB of RAM on the pro will immediately be an excuse for people to look at any little flaw in iOS9 and demand Tim Cook's head on a pike for not upgrading the 6S/Plus to 4GB, or for woefully under powering the iPad Air 2 in RAM.
The problem back then was software, and it will be only truly solvable through software going forward. Throwing gobs of RAM at software inefficiencies is only a bandaid. The apps and the OS themselves need to be fixed to manage resources better. That is where the problem lies.
Good! You voted with your wallet. Don't get a 6S/Plus, or you'll be sorely disappointed it lacks 4GB of RAM.
http://bgr.com/2015/09/14/jimmy-kimmel-iphone-6s-video/
Here's your typical iphone users. These are the ones targeted by Apple. These are the ones who chime in on forums wondering what lag?
What LAG? Seriously though my 6 Plus on iOS 9 is pretty smooth. I will say this every once and a while I feel like I catch it by surprise and that's when you see it. Its like hay iPhone what are you doing and its like oh **** you caught me. I would say 95% of the time its lag free.
Whoa, I didn't know you could do complex memory management analysis just by using software for 5 days.
Nothing complex about reboots, reloads, stuttering, and failures to recognize touches to the screen. The phone is overloaded, unresponsive, and laggy.
Don't try to be too smart for yourself.
And you assume all of that is because of only having 1GB of RAM?
Now *thats's* what's wrong with MacRumours these days.