Apple Seeds 7th OS X 10.11 El Capitan Beta to Developers, Reseeds 5th Beta to Public Testers

Yup. Exactly the same. In Photoshop double-clicking the title bar does nothing, but Alt+green works. iTunes doesn't really have a title bar but double-clicking what it has does nothing, Alt+green works. In Adium, where full screen would make no sense but I was curious, Alt+green switches between "small" and "very small". Double-clicking title bar switches between "normal" and "small", the same with green button without Alt. In Cubase both options give a full screen, same with Spotify and Firefox.

So basically it's all inconsistent. Again, I don't find this a massive problem, it's just that the solution doesn't always work.

Himhhh fair enough that does suck a bit. However I suppose it must be app developers rather than Apple but I do understand the consistency issue.
I still think tho that the new way is much better than the old way where maximise was on the left with all window controls and than full screen was all the way on the right by itself.
It would be nice if they could give you an option, similar to the shake mouse thing, where you can pick the behaviour of the green button.
 
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However I can't complain too much

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ambient light compensation checkbox seems gone in the new macbook? I had to turn it off in the last beta for the system to stop beach balling and now the option itself is gone? Major bug in it, perhaps?
 
Got it installed on my MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) - I've had a look through the various parts of the OS and it is amazing the number of parts of OS X that are already taking advantage of Metal. The browser for example makes use of Metal for hardware acceleration plus lots of other under the hood changes. I did a clean install off a boot stick (funny enough I wasn't plagued by the error I faced in previous public betas) and things have been very stable so far. I'm hoping that with maybe another 2-3 more beta's then all the low hanging bugs will be addressed and will be stable enough to ship. Interesting that there are rumours of iOS shipping some time in September with the much speculated iPad Pro (which I doubt even exists other than the mind of enthusiasts) but given that the last iPhone was released mid September I wouldn't be surprised if we have the two being released in tandem particularly when there has been much noise being made about iOS 9.1 being visible on web logs.
 
Go into your HD/Library/Updates and remove the .plist file (keep it just in case). Restart and then try the Appstore update.

Thanks for that. Noted for future reference.

on opening the MacBook this morning I was greeted with a message informing me that the update had been replaced. It downloaded in a few minutes and is now happily installed. ;)
 
ambient light compensation checkbox seems gone in the new macbook? I had to turn it off in the last beta for the system to stop beach balling and now the option itself is gone? Major bug in it, perhaps?
Noticed that too. The bug I filed was marked as duplicate a few days ago (ALC caused hangs and kept re-enabling itself).
 
HELP: i deleted the Utility folder to trash, put it back now lots of things are screwed. Can't open terminal etc... thought the latest beta would fix it but it didn't. I want to avoid making a fresh install.
 
Try turning extensions off, quit and restart Safari, turn extensions back on.

Thanks for the advice - unfortunately it did not work.

Does anyone know the correct terminal command to set the extensions folder back to normal?
 
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This is a bit crazy, started it the day after ... before most even awake in the US.


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That happened to me with one of the betas, too. I just stopped and resumed the download and then it continued at full speed. In my case, this only happens with these OS X betas, everything else downloads fast without hiccups.

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With this speed

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And it still takes me over 5 hours? must not be serious.

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Thats the speed between you and your ISP not between you and the Apple CDN node.. if your ISP has an Akamai CDN nice it should be staring you towards that for the extra speed, however if your using 3rd party DNS then you won't get that benefit.
 
as we're comparing pipe sizes... here you go...

my upload speed ratio sucks :(

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Despite this being the 7th beta, I still cannot open attachment in preview. If I click on any pdf of jpg from an email (mail), it freezes preview and can only move on if I force quit. Seems odd that something so standard is still messed up. Otherwise, I LOVE IT

Hmmm... I'm using public beta 5 and opening an attachment with Preview is working fine on my machine.
 
Having install issues here too. Just tried for a second time and it told me it couldn't certify the OSX install or something.

Edit: 3rd time is the charm. Tried it again after posting here and now it installed correctly.
 
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It may be a bad habit to some but it is BY FAR the biggest complaint I hear from students over the last ten years and it shows no sign of going away.

If Apple can include a cursor shake option surely they can include a Maximize option.

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What's so bad about double click on the title bar? In my opinion double click on the title bar is even easier than clicking on the small green dot
 
What's so bad about double click on the title bar? In my opinion double click on the title bar is even easier than clicking on the small green dot

Some of us have the feature to minimize the window by double-clicking the title bar enabled. I minimize far more than I maximize, so I prefer this setting. Perhaps others are the same? Although, not all apps respect this setting (iTunes I am looking at you).
 
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