Is it the C4780? Does it disconnect when the USB cable is plugged in to transfer wireless settings?
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Apple Seeds First Developer Build of Mac OS X 10.6.5
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Is it the C4780? Does it disconnect when the USB cable is plugged in to transfer wireless settings?
Apple may be indifferent to Mac gaming, but they don't go out of their way to deliberately give Windows an advantage. Besides, I believe this is the first time Apple has tested a separate combined GPU driver update outside of OS point updates. Previous graphics updates were always specific to 1 type of GPU to address specific issues usually. Since Apple has been testing this as a separate update, it'll likely be released separately ahead of 10.6.5.
In any case, in terms of calls for OpenGL 3.0 support, I hope Apple puts us out of our misery and finally adds the last remaining piece: GLSL 1.30 support. And it would be nice to have some effort put into GeForce 7300 and 7600 drivers. It's ironic that people who bought the higher end iMacs of their generation with the 7300GT or 7600GT are actually getting a shorter gaming life from them than the base X1600 models because poor graphics drivers means many games don't support them at all even though they are technically faster.
+1 on graphics drivers.
The game market seems to be maturing in the sense that engines support a wider range of slower GPUs now as well as mobile GPUs. With Steam on the Mac there is actually a reason to really care about this. While I own a machine specifically built for gaming, taking my laptop over to a buddy's place for a bit of LAN action is always a good time.
Now Riot just needs to release their League of Legends Mac client!
The game market seems to be maturing in the sense that engines support a wider range of slower GPUs now as well as mobile GPUs. With Steam on the Mac there is actually a reason to really care about this. While I own a machine specifically built for gaming, taking my laptop over to a buddy's place for a bit of LAN action is always a good time.
Now Riot just needs to release their League of Legends Mac client!
Completely unrelated. 10.7 is new development, 10.6 is maintenance only. 10.6 gets bug fixes, security updates, and updates to support new hardware.
I'm pretty confident this isn't a bug. The official start of the Gregorian calendar is the adoption date by Pope Gregory (October 15, 1582), not the adoption date of an individual country.
You can read all about it on Wikipedia; there's timeline graphic that gives a good summary of countries and when they adopted the Gregorian calendar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Timeline
Apple shouldn't muck about with graphics drivers as they obviously don't know what the hell they're doing.
Apple shouldn't muck about with graphics drivers as they obviously don't know what the hell they're doing.
I kinda agree with you. I'm unsure as to why Apple just doesn't allow Nvidia and ATI to supply the drivers... We could see more updates and performance that rivals Windows PCs if that were to happen.
IMO, Apple really needs to loosen up a little.
They provide them to Apple, not to the consumer. Apple still decides when to release them as an update.
If Nvidia and ATI could provide their drivers directly to the consumer (like on Windows), we'd see more frequent updates and higher quality driver support.
Apple, of course.
They're really conservative when it comes to opening up their OS to others.
I get (and kinda like) their close approach to hardware, but I think the end-user would benefit from a more open approach when it comes to stuff like driver support.
I really can't see how this makes sense. By this logic all drivers for all hardware should come from Apple.
+1 but since Apple is a dictatorship that's not likely to happen anytime soon. Maybe when old Steve croaks.
Go check it out for yourself.
Most of them (be it printer, scanner, graphics, etc) do come from Apple through software updates. It's a process that ensures the safety of the OS (kind of) but ends up hurting the end-user.
Yeah MOST, but not all. The way i see it no matter how drivers are distributed if they suck, they suck regardless of who gives you those drivers. And i think Apple wouldn't mind releasing such Graphics updates every month if ATI and NVIDIA was up to the task providing better drivers every month or so.
Are the graphics drivers for Apple in user space or are they still in kernel space?
Apple's stance has been and always will be that tight control of its products ensures a better end user experience. By regulating the software that runs their product lines, Apple is able to produce a much more structured ecosystem. The cost may be the inability for some users who need extreme usage for such tasks as high end gaming frame rate or extreme 3D rendering. For such instances Windows OS may be a better fit.
If Apple were to allow a free for all on its systems, then I would expect OS X to be renamed Windows OS. If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple. However I suspect with Apple's recent recognition of graphics advancements in OS X, the company is addressing the issue, but slowly and systematically to ensure a close to perfect as possible end user experience.
In the meantime, boot up Windows, play those hard core, tear 'em up, games, as I'm sure "old Steve Jobs" doesn't want to "croak" any time soon
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The graphics drivers. Are they in user space (ie wouldn't crash the computer if something went wrong) or not? If they are in user space I don't understand why Apple would be worried about Nvidia or ATI giving the drivers to the public directly.
But as it is it sounds like the graphics drivers are kernel extensions. Which would explain why Apple is concerned. bad extensions can cause crashes and instability.
Apple's stance has been and always will be that tight control of its products ensures a better end user experience. By regulating the software that runs their product lines, Apple is able to produce a much more structured ecosystem. The cost may be the inability for some users who need extreme usage for such tasks as high end gaming frame rate or extreme 3D rendering. For such instances Windows OS may be a better fit.
If Apple were to allow a free for all on its systems, then I would expect OS X to be renamed Windows OS. If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple. However I suspect with Apple's recent recognition of graphics advancements in OS X, the company is addressing the issue, but slowly and systematically to ensure a close to perfect as possible end user experience.
In the meantime, boot up Windows, play those hard core, tear 'em up, games, as I'm sure "old Steve Jobs" doesn't want to "croak" any time soon
You make it sound like total anarchy would ensue if Nvidia and ATI could release OS X drivers themselves. Companies like Digidesign/M-audio and Apogee do this but it hasn't ruined the user experience. If Apple seriously want to compete with MS they must adopt the same driver release model. There's lots of potential gaming power in current Macs but Apple won't let us use it, doesn't that piss you off?
