Apple Seeds First OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite Beta to Developers

[grahamperrin]

Orientation: existing discussion of the reported security flaw

OS X Yosemite Security Flaw Discovered http://nr.news-republic.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=31335352

Thanks, a topic began in MacRumors Forums not long ago:

Hacker finds 'serious' vulnerability in OS X Yosemite

 

[tuartboy]

Only issue I have had, is that Yosemite is a memory hog. Uses 3GB more than Mavericks did. And that is without doing much, casual surfing, light work. Good thing I have 16GB.

Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Modern OS X (10.9+) will try to use all that you have for apps and file caches. When the system needs more RAM it will dump file caches and attempt to compress it to keep you from swapping to disk. This is by design and a Good Thing™.

If you really want to see what is going on, watch your memory pressure, compressed RAM and the amount of page outs (to disk). Those are far more telling than overall RAM usage which ideally should be near 100%.

 

[Jobs, Steve]

iOS 8.1 and Yosemite both have WiFi issues.

And that sucks big time :-O

Can't understand that. Really!
I got a Retina MacBook Pro 13,3" (model A1502). --I think i'm not the only one in the world to have this model.--
I got Yosemite 10.10 Final Release.

I NEVER, NEVER and NEVER had a WIFI ISSUE.

So, if the hardware is the same, if the software (Yosemite) is the same, why someone got problems and someone don't ??

It's really interesting...

 

[Parasprite]

Can't understand that. Really!
I got a Retina MacBook Pro 13,3" (model A1502). --I think i'm not the only one in the world to have this model.--
I got Yosemite 10.10 Final Release.

I NEVER, NEVER and NEVER had a WIFI ISSUE.

So, if the hardware is the same, if the software (Yosemite) is the same, why someone got problems and someone don't ??

It's really interesting...

It's interesting if you are into networking.

It's not very interesting if you are just trying to use the computer and the internet suddenly stops working a few times per day.

Now that I think of it it hasn't happened for about a week now, which is weird. Maybe this is a little interesting; wonder if I changed anything.

 

[Jobs, Steve]

It's interesting if you are into networking.

It's not very interesting if you are just trying to use the computer and the internet suddenly stops working a few times per day.

Now that I think of it it hasn't happened for about a week now, which is weird. Maybe this is a little interesting; wonder if I changed anything.

Do you understand my message??
I think you don't.

 

[Parasprite]

Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Modern OS X (10.9+) will try to use all that you have for apps and file caches. When the system needs more RAM it will dump file caches and attempt to compress it to keep you from swapping to disk. This is by design and a Good Thing™.

If you really want to see what is going on, watch your memory pressure, compressed RAM and the amount of page outs (to disk). Those are far more telling than overall RAM usage which ideally should be near 100%.

And if the OS won't release the memory by itself?

Because with 16 GB of memory and a steady 6 GB of file caches, you'd think that it would be a little bit more liberal about releasing some of that instead of repeatedly paging out when it hits 16 GB.

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Do you understand my message??
I think you don't.

I don't think you understood mine, Mr. Georgia.

 

[desertfool]

It's Wifi

I can't figure out if I'm having a WiFi issue or Safari is being flaky. Other apps seem to be fine and able to get out to the internet, but Safari will sit for a few minutes. Hope it gets fixed soon.

I can see my MacBook go from 2.4Ghz to 5Ghz, and when it gets to 5Ghz, it stops responding. Eventually it drops back to 2.4Ghz, and then it works again.

 

[enilsen16]

Was this also seeded to Beta users yesterday? The update just showed up in my app store.

 

[MI MacGuy]

Was this also seeded to Beta users yesterday? The update just showed up in my app store.

Just came through mine as well. Must have turned it on for us Beta Program members.

 

[TMRJIJ]

Updated. So far, so good.
No Issues at all.
Notification Center runs great.
No Wi-Fi issues (Of course I didn't really have that issue before)
College Exchange emails are back in Mail to test.

Show me the next pre-release build

 

[Belmont31R]

Beta seed member and just updated.

 

[bkribbs]

You can count. Right?
Since when does 11 come after 9?

I won't point out that 11 is always after 9 There may be an extra number there, but 11 is definitely after 9.

 

[djtech42]

I don't think these incremental betas will be available for the public. Doesn't really seem worth it. You won't see a difference and they'll only be minor features.

Surprisingly, they did release it in the beta program today.

 

[TMRJIJ]

Shouldn't OS XI come after OS X 10.9?

From version 10.9 to 10.10? So much for sorting OSes in a list.

OS X is suppose to be a twenty year developing Operating System. It is not a decimal. They can go all the way up to 10.30 if needed. You probably won't see a OS XI anytime soon.

 

[grahamperrin]

dynamic_pager behaviour in more modern versions of OS X

… with 16 GB of memory and a steady 6 GB of file caches … repeatedly paging out …

I understand the curiosity. Now's a good time to post something less frivolous than my (automatically removed) first post to this topic ;-)

Parasprite, answers will relate to multiple versions of the operating system (not Yosemite alone). The following topics are not version-specific:

• Help with Virtual memory and swapping
• Lots of pageouts with 24 GB RAM – the most recent example includes an environment with 16 GB

– neither is recent, but for the type of question you're asking, there's no reason to refrain from posting in the latter.

If you'd like to add details of a recent case in either of those topics, any subscriber (including me) should be able to respond.

Note, it'll be inappropriate for me to respond where any detail is specific to a pre-release build of OS X 10.10.1, so please share details only from the released build of 10.10 (and not in this topic). Thanks.

 

[BlueParadox]

Public beta now (also?) available. Not sure if this has already been mentioned.

10.10.1 (14B17)

 

[roxics]

Really hope they fix animated gifs in quick look which are not working at all for me. Also overall slowness.

 

[grahamperrin]

OS X 10.10.1 public beta

Public beta now (also?) available. Not sure if this has already been mentioned. …

Yep, scroll up … including this quote, there are now five mentions on this page

 

[Jobs, Steve]

And if the OS won't release the memory by itself?

Because with 16 GB of memory and a steady 6 GB of file caches, you'd think that it would be a little bit more liberal about releasing some of that instead of repeatedly paging out when it hits 16 GB.

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I don't think you understood mine, Mr. Georgia.

No, you wrong.
Just because if only you understood my message you will never answer as you did.

My message was: why same hardware + same software = no issues to me.
I NEVER had that (in)famous "Wifi Issue", never had on Mavericks too.

Maybe I got a better wifi chip?? Maybe Apple release to me a no-issue driver??

Hope you understand now, Mr. Big Green Eyes.

 

[ltorrelles]

It appears only certain models are affected. We have 2 MBPr Mid-2012 in our household and none of the issues. Maybe 2012 was a good year?

Mid 2012 retina 15 inch, had WiFi issues since day one. Had to roll back to Mavericks, so...

 

[Jobs, Steve]

Mid 2012 retina 15 inch, had WiFi issues since day one. Had to roll back to Mavericks, so...

So, that's my question, same model, same year, different hardware??

 

[Parasprite]

I understand the curiosity. Now's a good time to post something less frivolous than my (automatically removed) first post to this topic ;-)

Parasprite, answers will relate to multiple versions of the operating system (not Yosemite alone). The following topics are not version-specific:

• Help with Virtual memory and swapping
• Lots of pageouts with 24 GB RAM – the most recent example includes an environment with 16 GB

– neither is recent, but for the type of question you're asking, there's no reason to refrain from posting in the latter.

If you'd like to add details of a recent case in either of those topics, any subscriber (including me) should be able to respond.

Note, it'll be inappropriate for me to respond where any detail is specific to a pre-release build of OS X 10.10.1, so please share details only from the released build of 10.10 (and not in this topic). Thanks.

Looking in that thread makes me really rekindled my love for the new activity monitor.

As for the memory issue I'll certainly look into this later in the week when I have a moment to play with it. Thanks for your input.

No, you wrong.
Just because if only you understood my message you will never answer as you did.

My message was: why same hardware + same software = no issues to me.
I NEVER had that (in)famous "Wifi Issue", never had on Mavericks too.

Maybe I got a better wifi chip?? Maybe Apple release to me a no-issue driver??

Hope you understand now, Mr. Big Green Eyes.

I don't know what the cause was in my case, but in Console it looked like it hit an error and instead of unloading and loading gracefully it just unloads. Which would explain why the wifi would just disconnect and ignore all attempts to reconnect until I turned the wifi off/on again. I still haven't been able to actually reproduce it when I want to, though.

Never had this on Mavericks either, actually.

Entirely

 

[xgman]

I don't use wifi, but am curious if this beta helped anyone that did have the wifi issues?

 

[gtot]

still issues here....

Hi all.

I updated with the Public beta release, and after that ran the "Continuity Activation Tool" as i am using a MBA mid 2011.

The first evening it looked promising, but it is still unstable. Before i only had the issue, every time when it had the lid shot down, and had to wake up. I had to disable and reenable the wifi to get connection. Now that works (it searches for a wifi connection after sleep, but connects automatically) BUT i am now experiencing random loss of connectivity suddenly when using Safari.

I really hoped for a solution.

/Torben

 

[BaggieBoy]

I don't use wifi, but am curious if this beta helped anyone that did have the wifi issues?

Me! I used to get pauses in Safari when loading pages and the occasional disconnect. Since the beta, Safari really does seem snappier.