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Haven't had too many problems with 2.0 but increased speed / stability is never a bad thing! Hope they fix the connecting issues in mail though
 
Stereo bluetooth? Please?

I second that. I'm pretty sure apple will eventually but at the moment even desktop macs have only buggy half-done AD2P support. The sooner the better. Getting sick of plugging an ugly chunky logitech transmitter into my beautiful iPhone.
 
How about a 2nd button on laptops?
Try the two-finger-on-trackpad click (enable it first in the Keyboard & Mouse preferences).
On a mouse, I like a second button (Mighty Mouse is fine with me as well). On a trackpad, pressing a second button with my thumb becomes cumbersome.
 
copy != cut

Um, you do know Copy/Paste is already in OSX don't you? You can use it almost everywhere including for files in the Finder.

Well he did say cut & paste and as far as I know you can't use that in Finder for moving files... I miss this feature myself, actually.
 
Not being sarcastic but give me a literal example/application of where a user may use cut/paste on iPhone..

1)some text they see on a webpage and want to put in an email?
2)copy and paste from SMS to SMS?

OH AND DONT FORGET SMS ADVANCED CAPABILITIES (WHICH MY NOKIA 3310 HAS) reply, forward, delete individual SMS etc)...
 
I'd like an MMS app, even if it is just through the app store rather than part of the OS. The push badges would be great with that.

Also I would like to be able to add RSS addresses as home screen buttons, but when new stories arrive, the icon badge updates. This should be possible with the new additions and would bring native RSS reading support to the iPhone. 3rd party apps could still be RSS aggregators...

I'd like native last.fm and radio streams support built into the iPod. I know these are already around in 3rd party apps, but I want to be able to listen to these while doing other things. Currently the limits of the SDK mean that these apps must close when I want to browse the web or read an email for instance.

I'd like greater control over home screen icons, I'd like to be able to change the icon or rename the shortcut without having to recreate it. I'd like to be able to use an icon from somewhere else if the site hasn't made one of their own, or clip an specific part of the page to act as the icon (the site's logo for instance).

I'd like to be able to choose text message notification sounds of my own.

I'd like the option to add a number in an email as a contact when I click it, rather than just the option to call it, hang up quickly and then add it to contacts from the 'Recents' list,or even worse, have to go and find a pen and a piece of paper...

I'd like some more controls and options for the camera, and perhaps the enabling of video recording. A panorama stitcher would be good, Sony Ericsson cameras have had that for years...

I'd like to be able to mount the iPhone on my desktop and use it as a flash drive.

I'd like to be able to use the phone as a USB modem with my PowerBook.

I'd like all parts of the OS to implement the horizontal keyboard.

I'd like a bit more control in the iPod quick window you get by double clicking the home button in another app. I'd like to be able to use this to navigate to other albums for example, not just around the one currently playing...

I'd like to be able to choose other weather services in the Weather app. Yahoo weather isn't very accurate for me, I'd like to get the data from the BBC for example.

I'd like to be able to remove Stocks.

I'd like calendar colours to be the same across my Mac, iPhone and MobileMe.

I'd like to be able to create and manage a folder structure on the iPhone for my camera images.

I'd like to be able to use my iDisk from my iPhone to view images or documents I've stored there while I'm on the move.

I'd like more control over 3G, rather than simply ON or OFF I'd like to enable it for data for instance, but use EDGE for talktime without having to delve into the settings multiple times a day.

I'd like a dictionary app which not only functioned as dictionary, but held the user defined dictionary words, so I could go in and delete ones which the phone has assumed I wanted when I simply mistyped something. I don't want that mistyped word being suggested back to me in the future...

I'd similarly like a total list of all the wifi networks the phone knows about so that I can see them and delete or edit them.

I'd like the ability to set a regular usage time reset. I know my contract monthly billing date, so I'd like to have the iPhone only track minutes and messages from that date each month. This would let me compare my use to my tariff allowance. There's no reason why the phone couldn't have the tariff allowances pushed to it from the network, so it could even show remaining messages that month, and even give me a running total of my bill...

I'd like the battery to last longer.

I'd like to be able to type the '®' character, or at least copy and paste it from elsewhere...

I'd like the moon on a stick...

®
 
I just hope the new version fixes all the bugs, the apps don't crash, the phone doesn't lock up, and the new phone starts to work the way my old phone used to! That's not too much to ask for, is it? They need to fix the stability and basic issues ASAP.
 
i hope 2.1 (aka 2.0.1???) will get the bluetooth stack that allows us iphone 2G owners to pair with our external bluetooth GPS!!!

apple, let me decide if i want to drain my battery and when i need my GPS! i hope apple listens and gives us the right to get GPS running with the "old" iphone 2G....

c'mon apple, this would be so easy for you guys!!!

since the 2.0 update was a bummer in that regard i hope apple really gives a damn....

+1

A bluetooth SPP profile and an interface for bluetooth GPS's for Core Location and voila, you've got GPS on 2G iPhones ! (and turn-by-turn GPS apps potentially compatible with all iPhones versions)
 
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of features that need implementing that we don't have yet and we've been waiting far too long for, like copy and paste, MMS, horizontal support in email and SMS and proper bluetooth.

But right now, the priority is just to get an update out that fixes the stability issues. Literally as quickly as possible. The other stuff can be fixed later. This upgrade should be launched the minute the stability improvements are done. Oh, and fix syncing taking forever.

Phazer
 
I'm fully paid up (ADC Select member, iPhone Dev Program) and I don't see anything on the main iPhone page except the usual links for SDK 9m2199a (final) and things like the Program Portal. It doesn't appear to be listed on connect.apple.com for me either; most recent thing to download there is a QT seed.

I don't see anything either and I am a paid iPhone Developer. I wonder what is going on?
 
I just want my smooth UI, and stability back.

Edit: Actually no, I want smooth UI, stability, fast browsing speed, removal of SMS typing lag, push email to work properly, Safari to quit crashing, better battery life, and copy/paste.

OK, thats it.

... How about FTFF...

... Oh, they did-- in the best possible way!
 
I got it off http://developer.apple.com/iphone. I been a paid member since May, so maybe they haven't turn it on for all paid developers yet?

I think there is a difference between ADC paid members and iPhone Developers. If you paid your $99 to be an iPhone developer you more than likely have access. If you paid your $499 to be an ADC Select Member, no luck for you! But on the plus side, iPhone developers can't get the latest 10.5.x seeds! :)
 
I really wonder what will be the best way to implement copy/paste? There was that one video that came out a while back, but frankly I don't think that was a very good implementation.

I guess (a) the ability to highlight text, and still be able to bring up the loupe, somehow, (b) the ability to copy that text, maybe with a gesture or two finger click, and (c) the ability to paste text where ever.

One problem is that Apple mistakenly (IMO) decided to co-opt some standard (mouse) gestures normally used for selecting content and use them for navigation, instead, on the iPhone:

Click and Drag mouse = Select enclosed content
vs
Tap and Drag = Scroll or Flick Page

Double-Click/Triple Click = select word/entire field
vs
Double-Tap = Zoom page in/out

This decision limits what they can do (now) to select content for cut/copy & paste.

I suppose, they could implement some modal solution, e.g. press-hold to get into text selection mode... but that i would make the situation worse.

I'd rather see them re-implement the iPhone so:

1) navigation/zoom gestures require 2 fingers
2) content selection gestures use 1 finger (like the existing mouse standard)
 
Apple will never offer GPS on the iPod Touch. Too many features on the iPod Touch and then the iPhone isn't special anymore.

Apple does business in a different way than you think.

A huge mistake that many companies make: They try not to compete with their own products. The problem with that is: If _you_ don't compete with your own products, someone else will. Holding one product back to improve sales of another is heading for long term disaster.

Apple has a history of making their own products obsolete. Like the iPod Mini, which was an absolutely fine product, until Apple released the Nano and the Mini was history. The only feature that Apple won't add to the iPod Touch is a phone.
 
One problem is that Apple mistakenly (IMO) decided to co-opt some standard (mouse) gestures normally used for selecting content and use them for navigation, instead, on the iPhone:

Click and Drag mouse = Select enclosed content
vs
Tap and Drag = Scroll or Flick Page

Double-Click/Triple Click = select word/entire field
vs
Double-Tap = Zoom page in/out

This decision limits what they can do (now) to select content for cut/copy & paste.

I suppose, they could implement some modal solution, e.g. press-hold to get into text selection mode... but that i would make the situation worse.

I'd rather see them re-implement the iPhone so:

1) navigation/zoom gestures require 2 fingers
2) content selection gestures use 1 finger (like the existing mouse standard)

Apple made the right call. The touch gestures they have are very intuitive and well thought out.

- Navigation (panning) is more commonly used than content selection. Hence it should use 1 finger. 2 finger gestures work, but they're not as comfortable on such a small screen. And certainly not as precise.
- The idea of flicking with a finger to pan around a canvas is a very natural one. It feels like the internet is on some kind of slab on a bed of water, and you're looking at it through a window. It's a very easy to pick up gesture.
- Going on from above, the touch gesture system is an entirely different concept to the mouse. Since you're actually touching the objects on screen, it has to be made to feel organic and human. The idea that this new, human-centric input system should have to be shoe-horned in to a product by emulating a system devised decades ago is absurd. And the mouse wasn't designed for the mobile system. Wonder why nobody's made a trackpad on a mobile phone? Not because they can't, but because it sucks.

Multi-touch is an entirely new input philosophy, based around feeling natural to the actual people who use it. It should feel natural compared to things we do in the real world, not just things we normally associate with a computer. MT is also heavily optimised for the mobile platform - a lot of the decisions that have been made with mobile computing in mind.
 
Apple made the right call. The touch gestures they have are very intuitive and well thought out.

- Navigation (panning) is more commonly used than content selection. Hence it should use 1 finger. 2 finger gestures work, but they're not as comfortable on such a small screen. And certainly not as precise.
- The idea of flicking with a finger to pan around a canvas is a very natural one. It feels like the internet is on some kind of slab on a bed of water, and you're looking at it through a window. It's a very easy to pick up gesture.
- Going on from above, the touch gesture system is an entirely different concept to the mouse. Since you're actually touching the objects on screen, it has to be made to feel organic and human. The idea that this new, human-centric input system should have to be shoe-horned in to a product by emulating a system devised decades ago is absurd. And the mouse wasn't designed for the mobile system. Wonder why nobody's made a trackpad on a mobile phone? Not because they can't, but because it sucks.

Multi-touch is an entirely new input philosophy, based around feeling natural to the actual people who use it. It should feel natural compared to things we do in the real world, not just things we normally associate with a computer. MT is also heavily optimised for the mobile platform - a lot of the decisions that have been made with mobile computing in mind.

...sooo, how do you select content for copy/cut paste?
 
Not true

The difference is the way the revenue of the product is accounted for, which BTW, is the same on the iPhone 3G as the original iPhone. :apple:TV is accounted the same way, even though there is not revenue coming on a monthly basis.

Mostly speculation on my part, but backed by some historical data:

Look for Apple to charge 3G owners for the 2.1 upgrade.

becuase of Sarbanes-Oxley, Apple has had to charge for upgrades that introduce new functionality, except for the original iPhone, where you were "under contract" with them.

Well, the 3G is now just like the Touch - you buy it from Apple, and you're getting the funcitonality delivered. Period. They can't introduce new stuff without running afoul of SOx (thank you Enron).

Of course, "bug fix only" releases are fine to release as free.... so do look for a 2.0.1 and beyond.

Again - just speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all...
 
Having had the iPhone for about 13 months, I can honestly say that it has never crossed my mind to copy/paste something on the iPhone.

That being said, I understand that many people desire that functionality.
 
Perhaps the fact that they are no longer getting monthly payments from carriers means iPhone 3G users will have to pay for upgrades. This would also give them reason to issue updates less frequently.

God damn SabOx!

Uhhh, no, and no. The carrier revenue share has nothing to do with free updates. They are accounting for iPhone revenue under a "subscription model" (breaking the revenue of the device over 24 months), which allows them to give updates for free. The iPod Touch is NOT on a subscription model, and its revenue is recognized at sale, thus under SarbOx regulations, it's not easy for them to introduce new features at no cost.
 
Look for Apple to charge 3G owners for the 2.1 upgrade.

becuase of Sarbanes-Oxley, Apple has had to charge for upgrades that introduce new functionality, except for the original iPhone, where you were "under contract" with them.

Well, the 3G is now just like the Touch - you buy it from Apple, and you're getting the funcitonality delivered. Period. They can't introduce new stuff without running afoul of SOx (thank you Enron).

Wrong, wrong, and, well, wrong. You were not "under contract" with Apple, ever. AT&T was providing a "revenue share" agreement to Apple, but that had nothing to do with the end customer. The reason they could provide new features without charging for them (and without going through the requisite accounting nightmare to give them for free) was because they were accounting for iPhone revenue under a subscription model (recognizing the revenue evenly over a 24 month period).

There's a law that doesn't allow free added features to devices where the accounting policy accounts the entire thing at one time as opposed to say Apple TV and the iPhone which accounts over the span of two years. Now bug fixes and stuff are free, since obviously they're bugs.

*sigh* there's not a law that doesn't allow free added features, it just creates an accounting nightmare so horrifying that it's best not to do it if you're a public company under the domain of Sarbanes-Oxley. The issue is a financial reporting issue.
 
Uhhh, no, and no. The carrier revenue share has nothing to do with free updates. They are accounting for iPhone revenue under a "subscription model" (breaking the revenue of the device over 24 months), which allows them to give updates for free. The iPod Touch is NOT on a subscription model, and its revenue is recognized at sale, thus under SarbOx regulations, it's not easy for them to introduce new features at no cost.

So after two years updates stop being free?
 
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