Apple Seeds Lion 10.7.3 Beta to Developers

[MacDownunder]

What about 10.6.9

Here's an idea, let us users that need to continue with 10.6.8 for the foreseeable future get 10.6.9 that include iCloud.

 

[musika]

So, iCloud Document Storage?

Can someone confirm, does this mean we'll finally be able to use docs in the cloud without having to upload/download everything to/from the iCloud website (a.la. sandboxed/iOS style)?

 

[rickdollar]

PLEASE FIX the Wifi signal dropping & inability to wake from sleep sporadically....C'mon already!!!! Snow Leopard worked fine until I updated to Lion.

The inability to wake from sleep has been driving me nuts, too. Happens about once a week. I end up having to power it down with the power button as I say to myself, "WTF is this, Windows 95?"

 

[RichardBeer]

I've been hoping an update will bring OpenGL 3.1 support ever since early Snow Leopard. I'd hold out hope for it in this update but I give up. We'll never get it.

 

[iDuel]

I'm more interested in security improvements over anything.

 

[oiuh151]

I've been hoping an update will bring OpenGL 3.1 support ever since early Snow Leopard. I'd hold out hope for it in this update but I give up. We'll never get it.

Lion has had OpenGL 3.2 support since launch.

 

[rainbowsofwhite]

Awakening from sleep by lifting screen up.

The inability to wake from sleep has been driving me nuts, too. Happens about once a week. I end up having to power it down with the power button as I say to myself, "WTF is this, Windows 95?"

I have the same problem.
About once a week, when opening the screen up and awakening from sleep.

I have other occurrences as well -
- Black screen with keyboard still illuminated.
- Or screen comes back on and keyboard not illuminated.

It seems to have a mind of it's own

 

[cvaldes]

Here's an idea, let us users that need to continue with 10.6.8 for the foreseeable future get 10.6.9 that include iCloud.

Too many under-the-hood to bring a major new functionality like iCloud to a point maintenance release.

Besides, if you know anything about OS X's history, Apple basically abandons the previous OS after the new one comes out, short of adding critical security fixes. They will compile software like iTunes for some level of backwards compatibility, but they won't really include features that rely on new software that runs locally.

Let's note that OS X actually has fairly good backwards compatibility with older hardware. I'm running OS X Lion on a five-year-old MacBook Core2Duo (late 2006 model, 2GB RAM).

You're not going to get iCloud on Snow Leopard. You have been left behind.

 

[iBug2]

There's a new finder version, and it still cannot resize correctly. I wonder why this is taking too long.

 

[GenesisST]

Another idea! Don't use it if you don't like it!

Totally agree! I just remembered Launchpad from this thread and HAD to look for in in the applications folder. Not in the way.

I don't understand why we have spotlight or Finder to launch our apps, We have a dock!

I'm a keyboard type of guy. command+space, a few letters, then boom! App is running.

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Let's note that OS X actually has fairly good backwards compatibility with older hardware. I'm running OS X Lion on a five-year-old MacBook Core2Duo (late 2006 model, 2GB RAM).

Except when they decide on dropping architectures, like PPC or Core Duo. For me, it means my 2006 1.83 iMac gets left behind. Still a pretty good machine, for browsing, email, iTunes.

Edit: I'm fine with that.

 

[iBug2]

Except when they decide on dropping architectures, like PPC or Core Duo. For me, it means my 2006 1.83 iMac gets left behind. Still a pretty good machine, for browsing, email, iTunes.

Luckily you don't need Lion for browsing email and iTunes, which is compatible with Leopard.

 

[Exotic-Car Man]

Rubber band scroll

Among some of the other features mentioned, I hope Apple gives the option to remove what they call "rubber-band scrolling". I personally haven't had much trouble with Lion myself, but the rubber-band scrolling is just downright annoying. Does anyone else dislike that "feature"?

 

[cvaldes]

Except when they decide on dropping architectures, like PPC or Core Duo. For me, it means my 2006 1.83 iMac gets left behind. Still a pretty good machine, for browsing, email, iTunes.

Fine by me. I expect my Core 2 Duo MacBook (late 2006) to lose support one day, probably the next major OS revision.

It's not like I'd expect a five-year-old Wintel PC to run Windows 8 when that's released.

Apple (and other OS developers) need to balance innovation with supporting older architecture and hardware platforms. By not supporting older architecture, they gain more freedom in pursuing functionality that requires the more robust capabilities of more modern hardware.

Of course, Apple makes its gross margins selling hardware, but let's not forget that they are basically a software-focused company that creates functional ecosystems that run best on their proprietary hardware.

You don't buy a Mac because it has a certain Intel CPU; you don't buy an iPhone because it has a certain ARM processor. You buy it for its ability to run a bunch of great applications and services that (more or less) co-exist peacefully on the same system, whether it be OS X or iOS. That's what an operating system is: a big complicated program that lets other big complicated programs live together in relative peace.

 

[GenesisST]

Fine by me. I expect my Core 2 Duo MacBook (late 2006) to lose support one day, probably the next major OS revision.

It's not like I'd expect a five-year-old Wintel PC to run Windows 8 when that's released.

Apple (and other OS developers) need to balance innovation with supporting older architecture and hardware platforms. By not supporting older architecture, they gain more freedom in pursuing functionality that requires the more robust capabilities of more modern hardware.

Of course, Apple makes its gross margins selling hardware, but let's not forget that they are basically a software-focused company that creates functional ecosystems that run best on their proprietary hardware.

You don't buy a Mac because it has a certain Intel CPU; you don't buy an iPhone because it has a certain ARM processor. You buy it for its ability to run a bunch of great applications and services that (more or less) co-exist peacefully on the same system, whether it be OS X or iOS. That's what an operating system is: a big complicated program that lets other big complicated programs live together in relative peace.

Yeah, I agree. I just edited my post to indicate I'm fine with my Core Duo iMac to stay behind. As long as iTunes is supported, I see no hurry to upgrade that machine. I have a 2010 MBP for work and more intensive stuff.

 

[Gemütlichkeit]

Here's an idea:

REMOVE LAUNCHPAD
I don't understand why we need it. We have a dock.

Your dock must be a mile long. Don't use it if you don't like it lol.

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The inability to wake from sleep has been driving me nuts, too. Happens about once a week. I end up having to power it down with the power button as I say to myself, "WTF is this, Windows 95?"

instant on needs some attention, it seems to get worse after each release.

 

[Jerome Morrow]

There's a new finder version, and it still cannot resize correctly. I wonder why this is taking too long.

Resizing is fine here.

 

[gelbin]

don't you just hold down option and it just does not pull up the confirmation box??

Here's a trick. When you click Shutdown, or Restart and it comes up with the confirmation box, press the space bar; that unchecks the tick. You have to do it every time, but I find it quicker than clicking the box.

Or in short, I've gotten into the habit of hitting shut down, then pressing the space bar, then the return key. Done

 

[SDAVE]

Here's a trick. When you click Shutdown, or Restart and it comes up with the confirmation box, press the space bar; that unchecks the tick. You have to do it every time, but I find it quicker than clicking the box.

Or in short, I've gotten into the habit of hitting shut down, then pressing the space bar, then the return key. Done

Or hold Option+Apple>Shutdown

 

[johnhw]

For God's sake please add the minimized windows in Launchpad!

 

[wikus]

Here's an idea: ungroup the windows in Mission Control!

The option for that would be great. Its the main reason why I won't switch to lion (the other reasons is that its a ram hog, launchpad cant be disabled, poor battery life and overheating issues).

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Another idea! Don't use it if you don't like it!

I don't understand why we have spotlight or Finder to launch our apps, We have a dock!

Launchpad is still running. Try 'not using it' by removing it from the dock and seeing what happens when you install an application via app store. You'd know that launchpad opens, hence; its still there, being the unnecessary bloat that it is.

 

[smulji]

Fine by me. I expect my Core 2 Duo MacBook (late 2006) to lose support one day, probably the next major OS revision.

It's not like I'd expect a five-year-old Wintel PC to run Windows 8 when that's released.

Apple (and other OS developers) need to balance innovation with supporting older architecture and hardware platforms. By not supporting older architecture, they gain more freedom in pursuing functionality that requires the more robust capabilities of more modern hardware.

Of course, Apple makes its gross margins selling hardware, but let's not forget that they are basically a software-focused company that creates functional ecosystems that run best on their proprietary hardware.

You don't buy a Mac because it has a certain Intel CPU; you don't buy an iPhone because it has a certain ARM processor. You buy it for its ability to run a bunch of great applications and services that (more or less) co-exist peacefully on the same system, whether it be OS X or iOS. That's what an operating system is: a big complicated program that lets other big complicated programs live together in relative peace.

Generally speaking I agree with you that companies such as MS or Apple shouldn't provide "infinite" support for their software / hardware but modern day laptops / desktops are extremely powerful. There's no reason that a person buying a machine today, be it Windows or Mac shouldn't be able to get up to six years of good use out of their computers.

And I am specifically talking about laptops / desktops, not mobile devices such smartphones & tablets.

 

[wikus]

Here's an idea, let us users that need to continue with 10.6.8 for the foreseeable future get 10.6.9 that include iCloud.

10.6.9 should also give us;
- resizable windows from any side
- full TRIM support for all 3rd party SSDs
- better graphics drivers (my macbook pro doesnt always recognize my keyboard mouse and LCD when the lid is closed, and some LCDs dont display correctly).

 

[cvaldes]

Yeah, I agree. I just edited my post to indicate I'm fine with my Core Duo iMac to stay behind. As long as iTunes is supported, I see no hurry to upgrade that machine. I have a 2010 MBP for work and more intensive stuff.

Yeah, I have a 2010 Mac mini server as my primary machine that I expect will be left behind in 4-6 years. I'm fine with that too. Someday I will ditch my old MacBook, but it's still so functional when I need a portable PC (versus my iPad, which is like once or twice a year).

Apple has done a respectable job in keeping iTunes functional on older versions of OS X.

 

[weckart]

Get rid of the message (or at least give an option to hide/disable in system preferences)

"Reopen windows when logging back in".

I have to uncheck this every single time I shut down.......ggrrrr.

There is an option in System Preferences to disable this. Uncheck the box in the General tab right at the bottom Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps.

 

[Ger Teunis]

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Not true, that option doesn't control the checkbox you always have to
Uncheck during restart.