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Apple Seeds Lion 10.7.3 Beta to Developers

weckart said:
There is an option in System Preferences to disable this. Uncheck the box in the General tab right at the bottom Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps.
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I've tried that, it doesn't do anything.
You still have the message at shut down and you still have to uncheck the message.

And to the others mentioning pressing - Option / Shutdown method. This method still re-opens all the windows previously used on startup....

But thanks for the suggestion anyway.
 
The v10.7.3 delta update for 11C74 (official v10.7.2 in the MAS) is huge: 633 MB! So i think they changed more than just iCloud document storage, Address Book, iCal and Mail. Btw, the size of the v10.7.3 combo update is 1.08 GB (for v10.7.0-v10.7.2).

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Some updates/bug fixes in v10.7.3 beta 1:

Core OS:
- Kernel (OS)
- Sandbox (Security)
- EFI-related code (boot.efi, EFILogin.framework)
- diskutil & DiskManagement.framework/CoreStorage

IO components:
- Firewire/Thunderbolt drivers

Graphics:
- ATI/Intel/NVIDIA graphics card drivers
- QuickLook/QuickTime/Quartz/OpenGL/OpenCL

Network:
- Remote Management
- Firewall & mDNSResponder/webfilter
- WiFi/WLAN/Bluetooth drivers and frameworks

Misc:
- Java (probably only browser compatibility)
- CUPS (Printing)
 
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ouimetnick said:
Hope we can make the launchpad icons smaller. I hate how 10.7.2 made them fugly large. On another note, has anyone with Lion is an 802.11x network have WiFi dropping issues? I and several Lion users have the same issues at my school. Snow Leopard is fine.
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I was having WiFi issues under Snow Leopard at my school (Univ. of South Florida) where the wireless would say the connection's been renewed but all data stops. I had to manually disconnect and reconnect through Network settings in System Preferences.
 
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I hope they include message in this version
 
I hope they will remove Mission Control this time completely, and replace it with something more useable and modern like Spaces and Exposé!

Won't happen, I know… But I can dream can't I?
 
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I'm extremely content with Snow Leopard. Too many problems with Adobe software and Lion at this moment. Only thing I'm bummed about is that I can't take advantage of iCloud on my iPhone 4S, I would love that update in Snow Leopard.
 
RoelJuun said:
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Bring back pinch to zoom in Finder. Fix the desktop files bug that makes them invisible sometimes when switching spaces. Make it more easy to delete folders from the left bar in Finder.

Ow and fix the network issues!
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The network problems are hardware related, nothing to do with the software. Our MacBookPro has been dropping connection regularly since we bought it.

Apple know they have a ****** hardware design, but won't acknowledge it.

the problem has been around since 2008 at least.
 
Jerome Morrow said:
Resizing is fine here.
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Define fine. Open a finder window with 30ish items in it, in list view. Then hit resize. It never resizes correctly if you hide toolbar. And with toolbar windows with 50+ elements don't resize correctly in list view either.
 
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G4DP said:
The network problems are hardware related, nothing to do with the software. Our MacBookPro has been dropping connection regularly since we bought it.

Apple know they have a ****** hardware design, but won't acknowledge it.

the problem has been around since 2008 at least.
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My iMac has perfect wifi connection on Snow Leopard. Never had any problems, but since Lion it is all messed up. On Windows 7 it never gives any problem too.
 
G4DP said:
The network problems are hardware related, nothing to do with the software. Our MacBookPro has been dropping connection regularly since we bought it.

Apple know they have a ****** hardware design, but won't acknowledge it.

the problem has been around since 2008 at least.
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I've owned 6 different Macs since Jan, 2009. No wi-fi issues until I put Lion on my iMac and MBA. Definitely software related. I saw this bugginess easily during the developer previews, and railed on how Apple shouldn't be releasing the production version until they fixed it. I even recommended to my friends to stay away from Lion until at least 10.7.2 to give Apple a chance to address.

However, my problem has pretty much gone away. The only wi-fi issue I experience now is that browsing speeds seem very slow when I first open my MBA and Time Capsule is starting up. But even that is very intermittent.

Still, I find Lion to be the least stable of all the OS's I have run since I moved to Mac. Leopard and Snow Leopard were both rock solid to me. But Lion has had it's share of complexion issues. Very un-Apple like, IMO.
 
yeah said:
Here's an idea:

REMOVE LAUNCHPAD
I don't understand why we need it. We have a dock. :confused:
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I thought the exact same when I first got Lion - what was this stupid thing, it's not even laid out nicely!

Now, I can't get enough of it - using a quick gesture to get to my applications is brilliant. Going to Finder or the Application folder in dock requires clicking, accuracy and multiple steps. Learning a gesture takes a little practice but improves your efficiency and experience tenfold when it's it's just one simple movement.

Yeah I know we have a dock, but only for our most important things, stuff that you use occasionally wont go there, alas a gesture for getting to your other lesser used stuff.
 
I haven´t used Launchpad much at first, but lately I took the time to sort those big mess of apps. I have been catching myself using Launchpad more and more, if you own a Magic Trackpad its very easy to open it up and pick your app. Spotlight is still faster for me, but sometimes I don´t remember the exact name of the app, or I just want to browse all of my content. In those cases, Launchpad is a great addition.
 
Fix the erratic mouse, please!

The erratic mouse problem is driving hundreds of users nuts. Please fix it in the new release!
 
RoelJuun said:
My iMac has perfect wifi connection on Snow Leopard. Never had any problems, but since Lion it is all messed up. On Windows 7 it never gives any problem too.
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Whoopi do for you!

Search Apple's own discussion forums, wi-fi connection has been a bug bear for a long time.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1352518?start=0&tstart=0

My Mac Pro has never had a connection issue, that's in a completely different room to the router. No other wireless equipment has a problem connecting, just the Mac Book Pro.
 
The mid-2010 MacBook Pro hard crash related to the NVIDIA chip that was fixed less than a month ago with a silently released SW Update (TS4088) has reappeared, looks like this branch of Mac OS X in 10.7.3 doesn't include those fixes so the problem is back.

UGH. Big step backwards in reliability for users of this machine.
 
To all people complaining about the dropping wifi in Lion, it's the same in Snow Leopard 10.6.8 for me on my unibody mbp. It started 3 months ago and I'm forced to use the ethernet cable instead.

I can find all networks any time but can't connect for 1 second. Not at home, not at university, not at Starbucks, not anywhere... :mad:

Really, really annoying!!!


PS: Can other people turn their Airport off? I can't, the icon is grey as if not connected but it is never off so it continues to use energy for no reason at all!

This is not Appleish at all! Apparently they're having a really hard time solving this problem. I'm holding off on upgrading to Lion because 10.7.1 en 10.7.2 don't fix the problem and have even introduced the problem for many people.

Me not happy:mad:
 
mba wakeup speedups

+1 for Macbook Air slow wake-up times. It takes sometime a lot of time to wake up it from sleep. (where is instant-on ??)
 
Wish list of potential fixes...

The main bugbears at the moment are that Active Directory integration is broken and for server, the wonderful new Profile Manager is broken and Workgroup Manager (of old) is broken.

Thinking about it, Lion Server is just a bunch of broken nails...

Please fix the stuff that's supposed to work, I don't give a s}{it about LaunchPad...
 
johnmacward said:
I thought the exact same when I first got Lion - what was this stupid thing, it's not even laid out nicely!

Now, I can't get enough of it - using a quick gesture to get to my applications is brilliant. Going to Finder or the Application folder in dock requires clicking, accuracy and multiple steps. Learning a gesture takes a little practice but improves your efficiency and experience tenfold when it's it's just one simple movement.

Yeah I know we have a dock, but only for our most important things, stuff that you use occasionally wont go there, alas a gesture for getting to your other lesser used stuff.
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I work in a kindergarten-8th grade district and you won't believe how many people (teachers & students alike) are like "OMG! It's not in my dock! Where do I get?" We're still running Snow Leopard (not enough time to test Lion before the beginning of the school year), and can't wait for Lion. All the people will have to do is just click on Launchpad in the dock or do the trackpad thing, and there are all f your apps.

Just remember, a lot of, if not most, people not here on MacRumors are not as tech savvy as we are.
 
If Apple read this, please fix these:

1. I want Mail to have pinch to smooth zoom in/out just like in Safari when reading emails. Cmd + and Cmd - ain't cool anymore :D

2. On mission control, if I highlight an app and two fingers scroll up, it only zoom a little, I think it should enter app expose instead, a little zoom in is no use when you have some stack on an app.
 
djrod said:
Another idea! Don't use it if you don't like it!

I don't understand why we have spotlight or Finder to launch our apps, We have a dock! :confused:
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Where can i find this "dock"? Sounds ideal!

just kidding, of course.. really!
 
rdlink said:
I've owned 6 different Macs since Jan, 2009. No wi-fi issues until I put Lion on my iMac and MBA. Definitely software related. I saw this bugginess easily during the developer previews, and railed on how Apple shouldn't be releasing the production version until they fixed it. I even recommended to my friends to stay away from Lion until at least 10.7.2 to give Apple a chance to address.

However, my problem has pretty much gone away. The only wi-fi issue I experience now is that browsing speeds seem very slow when I first open my MBA and Time Capsule is starting up. But even that is very intermittent.

Still, I find Lion to be the least stable of all the OS's I have run since I moved to Mac. Leopard and Snow Leopard were both rock solid to me. But Lion has had it's share of complexion issues. Very un-Apple like, IMO.
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From what I understand they've given the many of the frameworks a massive overhaul in Lion which probably introduced some bugs in the process. It takes time for these frameworks to mature and bugs aren't always easily fixed since it can be a combination of factors (router, driver, wifi firmware etc.) thus difficult to diagnose, locate and fix then confirm that the issue has been fixed.
 
Using AirPlay from my iPhone would kill my Airport Extreme's wifi on a daily basis (as in, no devices could connect until it was reset).

The Airport Extreme firmware upgrade that came out in the last week or so has fixed that for me.

If you're having issues, make sure you're on the latest Airport Extreme firmware.
 
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