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Ditto. I'm using a variation of it as we speak.
I'm really liking the way Leopard is coming together and I can't wait for the final release. I fooled around with an earlier beta and was quite impressed.
It is always funny reading threads where people remark about not liking a certain icon, folder, menu bar or whatever. Personally, I like what I've seen so far but if there a few things that are not exactly to my liking, it won't change the fact that I will install it as soon as it's available.
I think it's safe to say we really don't know what the final default folder icons will look like. I mean, people were screaming about the default grass background and look what the new build is offering up for a background....something entirely different. Let's face it, it doesn't require much coding to change the default icon in an OS.
New Imac
Hey, I'm a new poster, although frequent visitor. About the new Imac, I have a 24" 2.8 ghz, and I installed the latest build of Leopard yesterday...not illegally, I'm a dev. I'm typing this on it right now, so I can say pretty definitively that the newest build of Leopard does indeed run on the new iMacs, and in fact, it runs pretty smoothly. So far, only one kernel panic, one problem with airport, and time machine takes a whole bunch of time to back up initially. On the whole, everything, especially spaces, and stacks, work really nice...I almost feel like I couldnt go back to Tiger even if I needed to. PS, why have all your apps on the dock, cluttering it all up, when you can just create a stack of your most used apps. Really clears things up a bunch...also looks cool.
Also has anyone seen the new screensaver called mosiac mode? Probably one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It takes an invidual pic from one of your iphoto albums/events and starts zooming out, along with a bunch of other pics, eventually creating a mosiac that turns right into the next picture in the library. Crazy. I'm really waiting for a screen saver like the one demonstrated as a possibility with core animation.
Needs a little more work, but on the whole, seems like progress is steadily moving towards October. Based on some features I've seen in here, iphone integration will be pretty nice, but I wouldn't expect some of those major upgrades to the iphone until the cat arrives. Thats not based on any insider info, but just a hunch. And finally, this OS, even in beta, makes vista look like Windows ME (and for a windows OS, I like Vista the best).
Hey, I'm a new poster, although frequent visitor. About the new Imac, I have a 24" 2.8 ghz, and I installed the latest build of Leopard yesterday...not illegally, I'm a dev. I'm typing this on it right now, so I can say pretty definitively that the newest build of Leopard does indeed run on the new iMacs, and in fact, it runs pretty smoothly. So far, only one kernel panic, one problem with airport, and time machine takes a whole bunch of time to back up initially. On the whole, everything, especially spaces, and stacks, work really nice...I almost feel like I couldnt go back to Tiger even if I needed to. PS, why have all your apps on the dock, cluttering it all up, when you can just create a stack of your most used apps. Really clears things up a bunch...also looks cool.
Also has anyone seen the new screensaver called mosiac mode? Probably one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It takes an invidual pic from one of your iphoto albums/events and starts zooming out, along with a bunch of other pics, eventually creating a mosiac that turns right into the next picture in the library. Crazy. I'm really waiting for a screen saver like the one demonstrated as a possibility with core animation.
Needs a little more work, but on the whole, seems like progress is steadily moving towards October. Based on some features I've seen in here, iphone integration will be pretty nice, but I wouldn't expect some of those major upgrades to the iphone until the cat arrives. Thats not based on any insider info, but just a hunch. And finally, this OS, even in beta, makes vista look like Windows ME (and for a windows OS, I like Vista the best).
I like the new folder icon designs, the old Aqua ones are so awful that everytime I get a new Mac or do a fresh install, I change them immediately with CandyBar.
Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new window/interface designs, though? I like the menubar, but the windows... why are the symbols for back/forward/etc. always off-centre? And what's up with the really cartoony application buttons! Yuck!
Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new window/interface designs, though? I like the menubar, but the windows... why are the symbols for back/forward/etc. always off-centre? And what's up with the really cartoony application buttons! Yuck!
Dopeasy.....maybe I could hit you up with a few questions.....
1. The earlier build of Leopard had some issues with Mail. Have they worked out most of those kinks?
2. If I'm understanding you correctly, you can create a "Stack" of frequently used apps. thereby eliminating tons of icons on the dock. Is this correct?
3. Can you customize the Stack icon to, for instance, reflect what kind of Stack it is? i.e. apps., documents, urls etc?
1. The earlier build of Leopard had some issues with Mail. Have they worked out most of those kinks?
2. If I'm understanding you correctly, you can create a "Stack" of frequently used apps. thereby eliminating tons of icons on the dock. Is this correct?
3. Can you customize the Stack icon to, for instance, reflect what kind of Stack it is? i.e. apps., documents, urls etc?
Only request I have for Apple is to remove those glass 'lights' in the dock and put the perfectly functional and simpler/more attractive/less naff arrows in.
Other that, I love what I'm seeing of Leopard so far. Not sure about the new wallpaper, but that's not something to complain about, that's just something to change as soon as I log in for the first time...
Other that, I love what I'm seeing of Leopard so far. Not sure about the new wallpaper, but that's not something to complain about, that's just something to change as soon as I log in for the first time...
re:
1. Haven't played around with Mail alot, but it does seem a little more stable. It hasn't crashed yet, and it synced all my mail accounts from .Mac. I haven't really tried todo's and notes because all it does it piss me off that I can't yet sync them to the iphone.
2. About stacks, they are really customizeable. You can't yet use a smart folder (of say recently used apps), but you can just create a normal folder inside the Applications directory, and just drag your favorite applications. What I did was create three additional stacks to the downloads one. One is all my user installed applications, the other is all the iApps and safari ect.., and the last one is an iLife stack. So now the left side of the dock, only shows the open applications, and it makes the dock very seamless looking. Whats really cool about the stacks, is the icon for any particular stack shows the first two icons for the stack overlaying each other. So for my user installed stack, it shows adium on top of aol radio. So yes, you can tell what type of stack it is without even opening it up.
3. see 2.
Here's a nice little screenshot.
1. Haven't played around with Mail alot, but it does seem a little more stable. It hasn't crashed yet, and it synced all my mail accounts from .Mac. I haven't really tried todo's and notes because all it does it piss me off that I can't yet sync them to the iphone.
2. About stacks, they are really customizeable. You can't yet use a smart folder (of say recently used apps), but you can just create a normal folder inside the Applications directory, and just drag your favorite applications. What I did was create three additional stacks to the downloads one. One is all my user installed applications, the other is all the iApps and safari ect.., and the last one is an iLife stack. So now the left side of the dock, only shows the open applications, and it makes the dock very seamless looking. Whats really cool about the stacks, is the icon for any particular stack shows the first two icons for the stack overlaying each other. So for my user installed stack, it shows adium on top of aol radio. So yes, you can tell what type of stack it is without even opening it up.
3. see 2.
Here's a nice little screenshot.
In previous versions, if you subdivide your Apple apps into folders in the Apps folder, software update would hack up a hairball and your apps wouldn't update correctly. What does a stack look like if it's all aliases in it, instead of having to move the apps?
Ahh, the dock and stacks look great there! Also, that little piece of menubar looks tempting. Epic screenshot.
educated guess:
http://desktopography.customize.org/
EDIT: yup, it's on there, it's in the 2007 section.
Since in Tiger, the reference to Dashboard was merely a keyboard shortcut drop down box and hot corner option, I think this should/could be considered part of exposé prefs. You are exposing the Dashboard app after all.Did anyone notice that Dashboard is gone in the system preferences.
While in X.4 it says: "Dashboard & Expose"
in X.5 it says: "Expose & Spaces".
So, where is Dashboard
And you'll notice semi-transparent menus here too. Another example for all those people who find it hard to believe this transparency/glass is copied from Vista.
Didn't mind pre-Jaguar myself. Just too damn unstable.
Tiger good, Panther better. I hope they are leaving the decision on the music to the last moment, hate to see them stick with it after over 2 years.
It's starting to look REALLY REALLY nice. Not sure about the wallpaper, though. Good thing it's changeable.
Here's one of the problems.....when you are moving a file with the mouse, sometimes you navigate into a directory structure where the Finder window is in icon view, and you have a bunch of folders stacked on to of each other. While holding this mouse button to move the file....you can't do anything to get to the folder that's buried under 4 or 5 other icons.
If you could just CUT the file and then you are free to navigate to the folder and in this case, switch your Finder view to List view or use the Arrange By function.
I think Apple should allow Power Users that want this to switch it on.
Also....it's not a Windows only thing. GUI's in Linux distros allow a cut feature as well.
-Kevin
I think Leopard is shaping up to be pretty nice. I'm looking forward to it.
I think that Time Machine, though it it filled with superfluous graphics, will probably be the most useful single feature (aside from, perhaps, the new Finder, which looks great). Though, if I were Apple, I would probably have omitted the whole space/time warp background, and simply dimmed the screen. In addition, I would not have had different Finder windows for each version, but one finder window that had items fade in/out as they changed...
Overall, though, the user interface of Leopard seems pretty good to me. I'm not too fussed over the Dock shape, though something more subtle might have been better. The menu bar looks pretty good to me as well. It also seems as if performance might be a bit better, especially in networking (though I can't be too sure, as I haven't used it).
The most important improvement, however, will most likely not be obvious things like this. Tiger, at first, underwhelmed me. Spotlight and Dashboard, while nice, just didn't seem to merit a version. However, after a couple months of using Tiger, I tried to use one of my older Panther machines... it was awful. Subtle little changes make a gigantic difference, and though I can't pinpoint what exactly was different between Tiger and Panther, I could just tell while using Panther that something was missing. Leopard will probably be the same way.
So, I am greatly looking forward to Leopard.
I think that Time Machine, though it it filled with superfluous graphics, will probably be the most useful single feature (aside from, perhaps, the new Finder, which looks great). Though, if I were Apple, I would probably have omitted the whole space/time warp background, and simply dimmed the screen. In addition, I would not have had different Finder windows for each version, but one finder window that had items fade in/out as they changed...
Overall, though, the user interface of Leopard seems pretty good to me. I'm not too fussed over the Dock shape, though something more subtle might have been better. The menu bar looks pretty good to me as well. It also seems as if performance might be a bit better, especially in networking (though I can't be too sure, as I haven't used it).
The most important improvement, however, will most likely not be obvious things like this. Tiger, at first, underwhelmed me. Spotlight and Dashboard, while nice, just didn't seem to merit a version. However, after a couple months of using Tiger, I tried to use one of my older Panther machines... it was awful. Subtle little changes make a gigantic difference, and though I can't pinpoint what exactly was different between Tiger and Panther, I could just tell while using Panther that something was missing. Leopard will probably be the same way.
So, I am greatly looking forward to Leopard.
My thoughts
I just thought I'd post a few of my thoughts.
Traffic Lights: I liked the old ones better, hopefully they refine them.
Wallpaper: I like the Tiger default one better than any of the Leopard ones I've seen.
Transparent Menubar: It looks tolerable, especially with the Aqua wallpaper.
Dock: Mostly fine, but the blue orbs should be easier to distinguish.
Window title bars: I wish that shade of grey were a bit lighter...maybe not as light as Tiger's "unified" look...maybe something the Finder in this image:: http://jonas.seph.ws/stuff/drf_p.png.
UI Components: I wish the buttons, scrollbars, etc. would retain the "Aqua" glossy look from Tiger...I don't like the dull grey on them, and I think the glossy white buttons and blue progress bars are both more visible, and more attractive.
Other than those minor gripes, I'm pretty excited about Leopard.
I just thought I'd post a few of my thoughts.
Traffic Lights: I liked the old ones better, hopefully they refine them.
Wallpaper: I like the Tiger default one better than any of the Leopard ones I've seen.
Transparent Menubar: It looks tolerable, especially with the Aqua wallpaper.
Dock: Mostly fine, but the blue orbs should be easier to distinguish.
Window title bars: I wish that shade of grey were a bit lighter...maybe not as light as Tiger's "unified" look...maybe something the Finder in this image:: http://jonas.seph.ws/stuff/drf_p.png.
UI Components: I wish the buttons, scrollbars, etc. would retain the "Aqua" glossy look from Tiger...I don't like the dull grey on them, and I think the glossy white buttons and blue progress bars are both more visible, and more attractive.
Other than those minor gripes, I'm pretty excited about Leopard.
