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if anyone wants to do a clean installation new installer is out. Its 8.09gb but before installing right click then select get info if it is version 15.0.31 then its beta 10 Version 15.0.32 is beta 11 "Or GM Seed Build 19A582a (took a few Attempts to get Correct installer)
 

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Isn’t GM versions supposed to be stripped from beta resources? This version says beta under About this Mac...
 
I wanted to jump on the train now that it's GM but since it showed beta for me, I decided not to.
I really hope it's a separate Download and it doesn't say beta... then I might try it although Adobe is ridiculous with their 32 bit stuff....Seriously...
Don't go by GM or Beta go By build number. Latest seed is 19A582a That is Dev Beta 11 or Gm Seed Apple still calling it a beta!! Don't know build number of Public Beta!
 
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Mine is showing beta 11, I'll see what the build # is once reboot.

5.42GB on 2018 Mac mini w/ eGPU about a 2 min download.
 
It really wasn't a bad OS. 3rd party drivers and Intel pushing a recycled chipset that maxed out at (IIRC) 1gb of RAM were the biggest issues. nVidia specifically was responsible for over 50% of crashes at one point, and OEMs selling laptops with the minimum amount of RAM were another headache.

On a proper laptop (like a MBP, ironically) and without bloatware, Vista was a rather good OS at launch. File IO was a tad slow, but it was otherwise reliable.

Case in point: Windows 7 was mostly just a service pack and UI facelift for Vista.
The chipset you're thinking of is the Intel 915. It wasn't an issue of RAM support (it supports up to 8GB of RAM). Rather, the Intel 915 GPU doesn't support WVDDM, which was required for Vista certification.
 
Hasn't there been several problems with automatic Windows updates?
Also, Vista?
Windows ME
Windows 8?
Some of the most infamous computer updates of the 21st century.
Vista, ME, and 8 were more PR disasters than technical ones. Vista didn't have nearly as many issues as people remember it having, and most of the ones it had were related to third party drivers. ME was really just Windows 98 that people remember as being bad because 2000 and XP (far more stable platforms) were available around the same time. Windows 8 was fine from a technical perspective but people didn't like the start screen replacing the start menu.
 
This may well be at least that bad. Apple is intentionally breaking software that millions of people rely on.

Dropping 32 bit support is inexcusable. I'm anticipating my phone ringing off the hook in the weeks after release with people needing me to remove 10.15 and reinstall 10.14.

I'm disabling automatic macOS updates on every machine I touch. Almost nobody in the real world is ready for this.

And what's worse, I've got it running on a test machine, have had it for months now. It doesn't add anything useful. Other than broken software and the inexplicable System Preferences rearrange, it's almost indistinguishable from 10.14.

I expect Apple's gearing up to release a from-the-ground-up 128-bit chip, and they don't want to be writing code for three versions of all their OSes (32-bit, 64-bit, and 128-bit).

(Twenty years is long enough for being stuck at 64-bit. Do the math and expect it a little sooner rather than later. Apple likes to surprise.)
 
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Apple today seeded the golden master version of macOS 10.15 Catalina to developers, three days after seeding the tenth macOS Catalina beta and over three months after the new Mac operating system update was first unveiled at the Worldwide Developers Conference.

The golden master version of macOS Catalina represents the final version of the update that will be provided to the public at release. The new macOS Catalina software can be downloaded using the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences after installing the proper profile from the Developer Center.

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macOS Catalina eliminates the iTunes app, splitting it into Music, Podcasts, and TV apps. The three new apps offer similar functionality to iTunes, but are split up by feature. iOS device management is still available on the Mac, but it's now done through the Finder rather than iTunes.

With a new Sidecar feature, you can turn your iPad into a second display for your Mac with just the click of a button. The Apple Pencil works with Sidecar, so you can turn your iPad into a drawing tablet in apps like Photoshop and Illustrator.

Your Apple Watch can be used to approve security prompts for passwords and other info in macOS Catalina, and Macs with a T2 chip now support Activation Lock, making them more secure. There's a new Find My that brings the Find My Mac app to the Mac for the first time and even lets you track your devices when they're offline, or, in the case of notebooks, closed.

Screen Time is available on the Mac as well as iOS devices, and Project Catalyst, a new Apple initiative, will let developers easily port their iPad apps over to the Mac to increase the number of Mac apps available.

There's a new Photos interface that surfaces your best photos organized by day, month, or year, there's a new start page in Safari, Mail has new tools for muting email threads and blocking senders, and the Reminders app has been overhauled.

32-bit apps no longer work in macOS Catalina, which is something to be aware of before installing the beta.

For more details on macOS Catalina, make sure to check out our macOS Catalina roundup. Apple is planning to release macOS Catalina sometime in October.

Article Link: Apple Seeds macOS Catalina Golden Master to Developers
Wholly molly I just crapped my pant suit
 
FWIW, I dug into the build numbers for the Mojave GM and final release...
  • "GM" (listed as 11th beta) was released on 9/12/18, with build number 18A389
    • Notice no letter at the end, unlike today's release.
  • Final release was on 9/26/18, with build number 18A391
    • Build number was not the same as the final beta / "GM".
Similar thing happened with High Sierra as well. GM candidate had a letter at the end of the build number, and the final release had a new number with no letter.

I got excited for a bit thinking I could upgrade to Catalina early, but I guess I'll wait for the final release. Looks like the macOS GMs usually don't end up being the same as the final release, as typically seen with iOS.
 
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if any one wants to create a usb installer. Download fresh Full installer. Software update restore defaults, restart reinstall beta utility allow it to find update. it will download installer. exit from install macOS 10.15 beta make sure it is in your application folder. Connect 16gb or grater USB format it as "UNTITLED" Mac OS extended (journaled) open terminal and run the following script
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Catalina\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/UNTITLED && echo Catalina Boot Drive Created
it will prompt for password.
 
if anyone wants to do a clean installation new installer is out. Its 8.09gb but before installing right click then select get info if it is version 15.0.31 then its beta 10 Version 15.0.32 is beta 11 "Or GM Seed Build 19A582a (took a few Attempts to get Correct installer)
Where do you find the installer? All I see is the profile option to download from Apple Developer website.
 
ME was really just Windows 98 that people remember as being bad because 2000 and XP (far more stable platforms) were available around the same time.

Windows Me was pretty bad. I think Me had two things: Microsoft tried to back-port Windows NT/2000 features like system restore, and the creaky base couldn't handle it, and second, Windows Me was designated for home users as businesses had all gone Windows 2000, so Microsoft skipped out on testing.

I expect Apple's gearing up to release a from-the-ground-up 128-bit chip, and they don't want to be writing code for three versions of all their OSes (32-bit, 64-bit, and 128-bit).

If you had said ARM64 instead of 128 bit, your comment would have been technically sound.
 
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