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It really wasn't a bad OS. 3rd party drivers and Intel pushing a recycled chipset that maxed out at (IIRC) 1gb of RAM were the biggest issues. nVidia specifically was responsible for over 50% of crashes at one point, and OEMs selling laptops with the minimum amount of RAM were another headache.

On a proper laptop (like a MBP, ironically) and without bloatware, Vista was a rather good OS at launch. File IO was a tad slow, but it was otherwise reliable.

Case in point: Windows 7 was mostly just a service pack and UI facelift for Vista.

Edit: I've been corrected. The chipset issue was that it didn't "the Intel 915 GPU doesn't support WVDDM, which was required for Vista certification." Thanks WaruiKoohii. That's how you ended up with Vista ready vs Vista compatible issue too.

The issue with Intel 910/915 GPU across the board was for Windows 7. I have a Sony laptop (can you believe...still use still sometimes) that had it as its GPU. Sony provided drivers to update to Vista, but for Windows 7 and beyond, dead in the water. Windows 10 provided a generic driver to use for the 910/915 GPU, but needed to disable all of the eye candy to make it run at some acceptable speed. sometimes not worth the effort.

So I think the 910/915 GPU issue may have effected Vista on some systems but not all, but finalized with Windows 7. I spent days trying to get a GPU driver (including seeking Intel) for something, but no one wanted to give me an answer as to why...just forced everyone to spend money and upgrade.

Had to put my two cents on this topic..maybe still peeved little (techie stuff...like the ipad 3) Spent good money on the laptop and then dead in less than 6 months back in the day.. :(
 
Installed 19A582a. Am I the only one who can't play purchased movies on the Apple TV app?

Edit: Fixed. Just had to sign out and in again in the Apple TV app. A bit glitchy.
 
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I ran Windows Me on a Gateway PC back in the day. I never had a problem, which apparently made me the world's luckiest man as literally everyone else had the worst time with both.

Apparently this was due to how the drivers were set up: the new Win2K-style drivers verses the legacy Win9x drivers didn't work together. If you only had one or the other for all hardware, there wouldn't be an issue. Problem is, few computers/hardware configurations matched that.

What happens when you try to launch a 32-bit app under Catalina? Does it launch at all or does it just not work "right"? More important, what happens when you launch a 64-bit app that has some small remnant of 32-bit code in it? Thx.
I think it'll be the same as trying to launch Classic/PowerPC apps: a dialog pops up saying it can't run. If the app is 64-bit with a bit of 32-bit, it might warn you that the program may have issues.

I have to agree, even though I never used it. Still, there should be some type of replacement.
Konfabulator?

Come on - Apple started the transition to 64 Bit in 2005 with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. That was 14 years ago - I'd say any developer who had only the slightest intention to keep his code up to date had plenty of time to do so …
10.4 was them dipping their toes: only select parts of the OS was 64-bit (mainly low-level stuff and math libraries, no GUI). Apple's recommendation during that period was to move any math-intensive tasks/anything that could benefit from 64-bit memory and registers into a separate, command-line program. Apple got more into it with 10.5 with most of their APIs ported over to 64-bit (or, in the case of QTKit, as a convenient wrapper around 32-bit libraries). Apple got serious with 10.6, with them migrating all their apps to 64-bit (In 10.5, only Chess and Apache was 64-bit; everything else was still 32-bit). Apple really got serious when they started removing QuickDraw/Carbon functions from their SDKs, a not-too-subtle hint that you really shouldn't be using those APIs. Then came the Xcode warnings when building 32-bit code. Then the removal of support of building 32-bit code.
 
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Windows ME!!

How about microsoft deciding to release 3 versions of windows 10 on the same day as apple's catalina gm.

19H1 build 10.0.18362.388

19H2 build 10.0.18363.388

and

20H1 build 10.0.18995

It's bad enough when apple release everything all at once (ios, macos, watchos and tvos all on the same day) - but when microsoft jump on the "let's release everything at once" bandwagon - you end up spending the whole day updating everything. It makes me lament the loss of the time when I only had 1 device and 1 system. Now I have several devices (not all apple) and several systems. So fingers crossed they won't release everything at once.

Thankfully this time apple didn't release everything at once - only the catalina gm.

Then microsoft decided - ah - apple didn't do their everything at once day. So we'll ruin it by releasing 3 different versions of windows on the same day as apple's catalina gm - and you guessed it - ALL AT ONCE! HA! HA!
 
I’m all for moving to new architectures but I’m going to be stuck in Mavericks for a while because I have too much work left behind in Aperture. I’ve moved to Lightroom years ago but I have many years worth of work in my Aperture libraries. Lightroom can import the photos but it doesnt come with the edits which is thousands of hours of work.

Anybody know of any tools that can export Aperture libraries to a modern pro photo editor with the edits left intact?

I also have a huge Aperture library and have not found anything that transitions the images EASILY. I did try a small Photos library and it worked OK, but clunky as I lost most of my Project structure. I have also been using LR for the past several years, but for some older images I still use Aperture.

Luckily, I have a older MacBook Air that continues to run well on High Sierra and use that for the few times I have needed to access Aperture and older images.

I now use a combo of LR and DXO PhotoLab 2 for most photo tasks. I often wonder what would have happened if Apple had not ditched Aperture and we were now all using Aperture 5 or 6!!

Ken
 
Yeah... made a mistake... this is not ready and God help that they don't release this as the final thing.
CPU runs hotter (not a lot but it does...)
By the way, I left it all night to do the indexing.

The SideCar - which is the only thing I cared for - is not the best- there's some bugs there.

Example: I am using MBP in clamshell mode with an external monitor and the iPad Pro wired to it. I keep getting screen turn off and turn on (as if it keeps detecting a new display) and it's super annoying.

Another annoying thing is the iCloud setting. For some reason keychain keeps showing notification that I have to set the account - which I did - and it fails somewhere....

Not a big leap from Mojave overall.

Anyway, I would advise anyone who plans to jump straight on GM to wait.

Update: The OS is getting worse.
Bluetooth is dropping quite often connection to magic mouse.
MBP has issues putting the external display to sleep.
 
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I hate that Apple has to release a new OS every single damn year. They *just* get the old one stable and suddenly they push out a newly unstable version. At least for Macs, Apple provides security support for the previous two versions.
 
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Looks like is just a matter of time when we will have to pay a "Subscription" fee to be able to use the operating system.
Music App (former iTunes) almost "useless without Apple Music subscription. TV App and iBooks useless unless you have some money to spend.

In a case like this, I would prefer to remove these apps entirely from OS (and replace by free alternatives), but, unfortunately, this is impossible.
 
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you end up spending the whole day updating everything. It makes me lament the loss of the time when I only had 1 device and 1 system.
More fool you. Sorry to say that but anyone who has been in the IT game long enough should know Rule 1.

Rule 1)
Do not update everything on Day 1.
i.e. Act in Haste, repent at leisure.

TBH updating things over the next month or so (or creating VM's with the new software) will be far less stressful. Trying to do everything at once will invariably lead to mistakes and FooPah's.
 
More fool you. Sorry to say that but anyone who has been in the IT game long enough should know Rule 1.

Rule 1)
Do not update everything on Day 1.
i.e. Act in Haste, repent at leisure.

TBH updating things over the next month or so (or creating VM's with the new software) will be far less stressful. Trying to do everything at once will invariably lead to mistakes and FooPah's.

Yeah. I kind of follow that rule - and kind of don't. First I read online stuff about them - and read and read until I'm blue in the face and sick of reading. If no dramas - then I install - usually on day 1.

But not necessarily.

Every now and then you get a shocking update (not necessarily a beta). Both apple and microsoft have pushed out updates that caused more harm than good.

Like ios 8.0.1 disabling cellular connectivity and windows 10 october 2018 update which deleted files without permission.

They are extreme examples - so extreme that in both cases apple and microsoft pulled them. It's the kind of behaviour you expect from a virus - not a system update!

If you read about them beforehand you can avoid the disasters.

But you are right. I probably am still a fool for (mostly) installing on day 1.

But I am not 100% fool because at least I read first. Maybe 99% fool which is a little bit better.
 
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Yeah. I kind of follow that rule - and kind of don't. First I read online stuff about them - and read and read until I'm blue in the face and sick of reading. If no dramas - then I install - usually on day 1.

But not necessarily.

Every now and then you get a shocking update (not necessarily a beta). Both apple and microsoft have pushed out updates that caused more harm than good.

Like ios 8.0.1 disabling cellular connectivity and windows 10 october 2018 update which deleted files without permission.

They are extreme examples - so extreme that in both cases apple and microsoft pulled them. It's the kind of behaviour you expect from a virus - not a system update!

If you read about them beforehand you can avoid the disasters.

But you are right. I probably am still a fool for (mostly) installing on day 1.

But I am not 100% fool because at least I read first. Maybe 99% fool which is a little bit better.

It is the 1% that makes all the difference.
 
Looks like is just a matter of time when we will have to pay a "Subscription" fee to be able to use the operating system.
Music App (former iTunes) almost "useless without Apple Music subscription. TV App and iBooks useless unless you have some money to spend.

In a case like this, I would prefer to remove these apps entirely from OS (and replace by free alternatives), but, unfortunately, this is impossible.
I guess you don't remember the days when you had to pay for a new OS, and the iWork/iLife suite, now the y are all free, and yet still people complain.
I have always been told; if you can do better, do so, if not, accept.
I personally enjoyed the journey from the early 90's, seeing how OS's have developed and all the technology that has come from it. Sit back, look back and be proud of how far we have come in a short journey.
 
10.4 was them dipping their toes: only select parts of the OS was 64-bit (mainly low-level stuff and math libraries, no GUI). Apple's recommendation during that period was to move any math-intensive tasks/anything that could benefit from 64-bit memory and registers into a separate, command-line program. Apple got more into it with 10.5 with most of their APIs ported over to 64-bit (or, in the case of QTKit, as a convenient wrapper around 32-bit libraries). Apple got serious with 10.6, with them migrating all their apps to 64-bit (In 10.5, only Chess and Apache was 64-bit; everything else was still 32-bit). Apple really got serious when they started removing QuickDraw/Carbon functions from their SDKs, a not-too-subtle hint that you really shouldn't be using those APIs. Then came the Xcode warnings when building 32-bit code. Then the removal of support of building 32-bit code.

That is a nice summary. Point is, the writing has been on the wall for quite some time now.
 
So how long did this take before it came back? I’ve got the same setup and have been waiting about an hour. I’m starting to stress...
This was happening late evening so I left is doing it's thing overnight. When I woke up in the morning I found it exactly where I left it. It looked like it got stuck somewhere. I force rebooted and after reboot the installation was done.
 
any chance Illustrator CS6 64bit will work on Cataline?
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Can someone tell me where the verb “seeds” comes from and what it means?
Well, the first time I heard it in a software distribution context, was at the edonkey p2p network for warez distribution. You distribute few seeds(small chunks of the software) and it grows elsewhere. Like taking a handful of seeds and throwing it over your farms field. Thats the context, but might have a older connection to e.g. napster, too.
 
My first impressions so far:
  • iCloud Keychain might take a while to activate (and multiple credential input)
  • The many security prompts are bad. After the upgrade, every single app that uses notifications will ask if this is still ok..
  • Changing iCloud settings requires the input of both your Mac credentials and the iCloud credentials..Apple overdid it with security.
  • Every app that needs to access the file system will ask for permissions..
Now the positive:

  • Animations are smooth
  • Scrolling has been improved. I really love it and the system looks more polished in general
  • The new podcast, TV and Music apps are good
  • The new photos app is great
  • Screen on time is good to have everywhere now
  • iCloud Drive allows to download a folder or file
  • iCloud Drive allows removing a download
 
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macOS 10.13 High Sierra. Certifiably worse relative to the Mac platform. Then again, Apple's track record for stable macOS releases has gone way downhill since they became consistently annual releases.
Apple releases is based on new hardware not OS readiness you can’t develop an os to a set release schedule it should be released only when ready.
 
Is it worth to install this GM? It will be similar to final Catalina?

Catalina has seen its fair share of bugs and any improvement can only mean good things. So, even though this beta/ GM is just 4 builds ahead of the previous one, I'd say it is worth it. I still think they will probably have a second GM seed before they release it, but who really knows!
 
Hmmmm, PB downloaded and installed fine on my laptop but now i'm trying to install it on my late 2014 iMac and the download keeps failing and restarting but never making any progress.

Any other way to install it apart from software update in settings?
 
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