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Apple Seeds macOS Monterey 12.2 Release Candidate to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

appleArticulate said:
This has nothing to do with betas. He's commenting on an article that is about the impending release of another Monterey build, that hopefully does something to fix the disaster that is Monterey.
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I guess we all don't mind someone complaining, but if its posted in a beta thread where the release is now RC, you should be hopeful its been resolved or improved, and in the very least try the beta or RC.
 
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I really hope they fix the embarrassing memory leak issues for the 12.1 / M1 Pro/Max MBP combination. Using Safari's getting old when opening 4 ordinary websites in separate tabs balloons physical memory by 2GB.
 
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macar00n said:
Monterey is a disaster. My $4k maxed out MacBook Pro can't connect to an external display without kernel panicking 0 to 3 times per day upon wake from sleep. Was worse before Monterey 12.1 but bad now. It was the first thing mentioned in the MacRumors 3-month review video. Complete dumpster fire of a user experience - machine is otherwise fast and perfect, but has this one critical flaw. Apple support senior advisors can't get any information about the issue. It's been around since February 2021 with M1 Macs for two operating systems now. I have two users on my computer (one for work, one for home) and every time my machine kernel panics for no reason it wipes out everything I'm doing. I feel like I'm in middle school again, feeling bad because I forgot to compulsively save a file I was working on and lost progress. This isn't an Apple experience.

Apple, can you please stop shipping garbage beta software? Can you please stop announcing future software features that put pressure on you to release those instead of a stable OS? I'm pretty sure the language that I really want to use to describe this is against the rules here at MacRumors but I can't fully describe anyway how disappointed I am with this embarrassing, miserable approach to software. Apple had time to add a bunch of idiotic notifications that distract people. Then they spent a bunch of time adding controls for the idiotic notifications so we can be distracted less. How about starting with a solid OS and then playing games with new features that are terrible for users. Jesus this is awful. For the first time in my life my PC is way more reliable than a Mac. I can't connect my Mac to one external peripheral, the most basic one used with a notebook computer, without constant crashes. The blue screen of death has nothing on this.
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It's been a huge disaster for me as well. No real features added either. Will not rush to update in the future. Glad that I did not update my second iMac.
 
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cloudpusher said:
Calling Monterey a disaster is overdoing it. I have zero issues at work or at home.
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I don’t have any issues, either.
However, as a fairly new Mac user I’ve lived through 3 major releases (Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey) and for each of them I remember multiple people claiming it was a disaster.

To be clear, I don’t doubt there are issues.
My partner had issues with Monterey and an external screen connected to her iMac, for example.
It is noticeable, though, that the claim that a new release is a catastrophe and the worst thing ever, seems to come back up with every release.
 
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BanjoDudeAhoy said:
I don’t have any issues, either.
However, as a fairly new Mac user I’ve lived through 3 major releases (Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey) and for each of them I remember multiple people claiming it was a disaster.

To be clear, I don’t doubt there are issues.
My partner had issues with Monterey and an external screen connected to her iMac, for example.
It is noticeable, though, that the claim that a new release is a catastrophe and the worst thing ever, seems to come back up with every release.
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Because they are. Apple's releases have been terrible for a good 5 years now. Each one more catastrophic than the last.

Just because some people twiddle away at their Mac and think if they can stare at a blank desktop and dock without it crashing means it must be fine, does not mean that it's fine.
 
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BanjoDudeAhoy said:
I don’t have any issues, either.
However, as a fairly new Mac user I’ve lived through 3 major releases (Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey) and for each of them I remember multiple people claiming it was a disaster.

To be clear, I don’t doubt there are issues.
My partner had issues with Monterey and an external screen connected to her iMac, for example.
It is noticeable, though, that the claim that a new release is a catastrophe and the worst thing ever, seems to come back up with every release.
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The only time it got dicy awhile back was with some intel Macs have kernel memory leaks during Catalina beta. It was cleared up before it was finally released by going back to a older Darwin kernel version. I think some that had issues with external monitors earlier stressed some people. Unplug, then plug in to get it to work. But Big Sur -> Monterey were both examples of parallel development against x86/ARM so it got more complicated to find all the issues. If you got a new M1 Mac or MBP, Monterey 12.2 should be very stable.
 
jasenwar said:
can you elaborate on native Apple Music?
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I don't fully understand it but here's an entire thread on it.

forums.macrumors.com

Apple Bringing Native Apple Music Experience to Music App for macOS

Apple is rebuilding the Music app for macOS as a fully native app, according to beta code seen by 9to5Mac. Code in the first beta of macOS Monterey 12.2, seeded to developers yesterday, shows that Apple is rebuilding the Music app using AppKit, macOS's native interface framework. The move...
forums.macrumors.com forums.macrumors.com
 
appleArticulate said:
Because they are. Apple's releases have been terrible for a good 5 years now. Each one more catastrophic than the last.

Just because some people twiddle away at their Mac and think if they can stare at a blank desktop and dock without it crashing means it must be fine, does not mean that it's fine.
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Twiddle away? I use the system professionally and in private extensively and just because some edge cases cause issues, it doesn't mean it's catastrophic. People should be more aware what words they use. You can say that for your use case you perceive it as catastrophic, that would be correct. There are hundreds of new features that work perfectly fine. Catastrophic would be if they all don't work to a large extent, but that is not the case at all.
 
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macintoshmac said:
What bugs are you facing? What model?
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The annoying bug I get on the Max is when I plug in my external monitor when the machine is asleep and then wake it with the external keyboard, the monitor wakes as normal but a few times it will go back to sleep and I have to wake the machine again.

I would like the Finder to be faster with graphics and thumbnails.

That's the only annoying things. The rest has been good.
 
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appleArticulate said:
Because they are. Apple's releases have been terrible for a good 5 years now. Each one more catastrophic than the last.

Just because some people twiddle away at their Mac and think if they can stare at a blank desktop and dock without it crashing means it must be fine, does not mean that it's fine.
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Definitely not within the past five years, every initial release of macOS has had lots of issues.
Here’s a thread full of complaints just a week after Mac OS X Leopard launched in 2007:
www.macrumors.com

Apple Preparing for Mac OS X 10.5.1

With Mac OS X Leopard a little over a week old, Apple has already begun making preparations for seeding the next revision of Mac OS X (10.5.1) to...
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Comments are very similar to the stuff you see today about software updates.
Just on the first page there’s someone complaining about Wi-Fi issues, someone complaining about external display issues, someone complaining about time machine issues… sound familiar?
And this is 2007.
Same thing two years later with Snow Leopard:
www.macrumors.com

Apple Begins Seeding Mac OS X 10.6.1 for Testing

AppleInsider reports that Apple began seeding Mac OS X 10.6.1, the first maintenance update to Snow Leopard, earlier this week to a select group of...
www.macrumors.com www.macrumors.com
Within the first three comments, someone calling SL “trash,” printer issues, sluggish interfaces, graphics card problems.
The reality is that, Apple, Google, Microsoft and all of them, for as long as software updates have been happening, initial releases, and even very early follow-up releases, are always a buggy mess.
Most people who heavily require their computer for their professional work are usually advised not to update until an X.2 or X.3 because of this exactly
 
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DFZD said:
We are less than 5 months away from Mac OS 13.

Universal Control is not coming in 12 now is it!
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I’m sorry, what?
Monterey only officially launched less than three months ago, an official, final, publicly available release of 13 is at least nine months away.
Big Sur went up to 11.6, I expect Monterey to be similar.
12.2 in January, 12.3 in March/April, 12.4 in May/June, etc.
There is absolutely no indication that universal control won’t appear in any of those
 
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