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Haven't used it in mail, yet. Viewing pdf has been smooth for me. MBP late 2011.

Its just as smooth as in safari for me system-wide...except iTunes as others have mentioned.

Thanks for your input. Looking back at Apple's WWDC keynote Craig Federighi did say OS X Mavericks will have "System-wide Core Animation Accelerated scrolling" which is basically what Safari and other apps should be using.

Digging deeper, I checked out Apple's Core Animation documentation:

https://developer.apple.com/library...nimation_guide/Introduction/Introduction.html

It reads "This automatic graphics acceleration results in high frame rates and smooth animations without burdening the CPU and slowing down your app." So it sounds like it's mostly GPU accelerated.

Core Animation is basically an API that lets OS X and iOS produce animated user interfaces. This has always existed in OS X since 10.5 Leopard. In addition to basic animations such as Mission Control, Apple has also decided to use it in the form of scrolling in OS X Mavericks.
 

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I might be wrong, so I quoted you so you can correct me—would the guy you were responding to see a pretty significant speed upgrade with Mavericks due to AppNap?

That might be possible. Obviously I don't have Mavericks yet and I don't have an rMBP - just a regular one, late 2011, so no AppNap experience. The only thing I tried to point out is he/she has a ton of heavy-duty stuff running in the background and doesn't understand why his MBP is sluggish. That's sort of Laptop 101.

He/she might find a marked increase in speed and responsiveness if the person limits background apps manually. Perhaps AppNap should be doing the same thing? Don't know.
 
As a developer with access to both GM builds, one of the bug fixes was quite obvious, and I see why Apple released a second GM. I also see why they didn't ship it as a quick 10.9.1 or similar.

But I've yet to see any Apple news site, including this one, do any investigation to report on what changed. Sad.

Also sad this thread is full of people trying to ensure they have the right torrent version. Probably my older age settling in.
 
I am wondering, do you have to do something to get accelerated scrolling, as I made a small app which uses a webview and it’s scrolling is jerky compared to Safari 7, the Mac App Store etc...
 
As a developer with access to both GM builds, one of the bug fixes was quite obvious, and I see why Apple released a second GM. I also see why they didn't ship it as a quick 10.9.1 or similar.

But I've yet to see any Apple news site, including this one, do any investigation to report on what changed. Sad.

Also sad this thread is full of people trying to ensure they have the right torrent version. Probably my older age settling in.

What was the bug?
 
They use the term "GM seed", which is equivalent to what would be called a release candidate elsewhere.

"seed" is tech term for deployment or distribution. They call it "Gold Master" not "Gold master Seed"
 
Only true developers can tell the difference between the two GM's. If you are a real Apple fan then the quality of build 13A603 is obviously better than that of build 13A598, I don't see what the issue is unless you're a silly torrent piracy with a backdoor Chinese bootleg. Does the torrent even have a valid 100% checksum or signature codesign? Why even take the risk?

I shed a single tear for all the new users here who are just trying to figure out if their "the pirate bay" malware is legitimate or not. I hope they all go to jail!
 
As a developer with access to both GM builds, one of the bug fixes was quite obvious, and I see why Apple released a second GM. I also see why they didn't ship it as a quick 10.9.1 or similar.

But I've yet to see any Apple news site, including this one, do any investigation to report on what changed. Sad.

Also sad this thread is full of people trying to ensure they have the right torrent version. Probably my older age settling in.
What obvious bug are you referring to?
 
Only true developers can tell the difference between the two GM's. If you are a real Apple fan then the quality of build 13A603 is obviously better than that of build 13A598, I don't see what the issue is unless you're a silly torrent piracy with a backdoor Chinese bootleg. Does the torrent even have a valid 100% checksum or signature codesign? Why even take the risk?

I shed a single tear for all the new users here who are just trying to figure out if their "the pirate bay" malware is legitimate or not. I hope they all go to jail!

*gets GM from his developer account
*finds nothing better
*finds scrolling worse

Guess I'm a pirate.
 
Only true developers can tell the difference between the two GM's. If you are a real Apple fan then the quality of build 13A603 is obviously better than that of build 13A598, I don't see what the issue is unless you're a silly torrent piracy with a backdoor Chinese bootleg. Does the torrent even have a valid 100% checksum or signature codesign? Why even take the risk?

I shed a single tear for all the new users here who are just trying to figure out if their "the pirate bay" malware is legitimate or not. I hope they all go to jail!

I hope you and your whole family get put in a re-education camp. :rolleyes:
 
It says 13A603 so how you got 602

Trust me, download that file.
Open the dmg, check the info.plist in the package:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Application-Group</key>
<string>AirPort</string>
<key>BuildMachineOSBuild</key>
<string>13A602</string>
Maybe there is something wrong, i don't know...
 
The other thread on this was called Apple silently updates GM build

But why the silence?

I would have thought by now that apple would have informed developers somehow at least of the existence of this build - email - message on dev forums - note on mac dev centre ----- something ----- But no. Still nothing!

In fact it was found by accident by a developer on the dev forums. Then other developers found it, spoke about it more widely, and now news stories abound on the net. Yet still nothing from apple? Why?

Maybe we will find out tomorrow.

I just think this prolonged silence is weird.
 
What was the bug?

I'm still under the developer NDA, sorry.

And I have to say I'm amused at some of the responses. No, I don't think people need to be jailed, nor am I trying to pull a no true scottsman argument.

I do get frustrated that so many people just have no patience. In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter if you are first to have a new OS? Why not wait till the actual release, and buy it normally?

Apple labels this stuff as developer only for a reason. We want time to work on updating our apps. That way come release day, we can have our apps ready to go as well. It consumes development time when users jump the gun and start having crashes on an OS we (both Apple and developers) aren't ready to support yet.

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I'm guessing that that string represents the OS build of the machine the package was created on.
Good guess, considering it is for a key called "BuildMachineOSBuild" :)
 
Mavericks GM Build 13A603
MD5: BFFB7A8E1776E8E748FDB0DA39433FDF
SHA1: CFD9DB706BCA3253BB6667CCC4F16FA9934218D1

Where did you get these MD5/SHA1 info's? did you actually run them from the installed.dmg file? and not the app?

That text is a direct copy/paste from a torrent site.

First it's from a torrent site, and second it's apparently not even the hash of InstallESD.dmg. Doubly useless.
 
I don't believe so. If you are a developer, you should see the update in the store, from what I have read.

I'm on the new GM now.

however, that's what everyone said about the 1st GM seed. and it was on the App. Store 6 days later after the release to update from DP 8, (i was too lazy to download it on the developer website) so i saw it on App. Store :) lol
 
I am wondering, do you have to do something to get accelerated scrolling, as I made a small app which uses a webview and it’s scrolling is jerky compared to Safari 7, the Mac App Store etc...

Maybe you have to use a special API, such as Core Animation or some smooth scrolling API?
 
Just installed the new GM over the old one and it worked. I'm not sure what have changed though. Will take a look into it later.
 
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BuildMachineOSBuild

…build version "13A602" instead of 13A603.

…
<key>BuildMachineOSBuild</key>
<string>13A602</string>
…

As others suggest …

BuildMachineOSBuild is:

  • the build of the operating system of the machine that built the item of software
  • not the build of the item of software

– the two builds need not be the same.

Metaphorically: I could use a relatively old set of power tools to build a modern garden shed.

Seeded software aside: it's not unusual to find (within a .plist) a BuildMachineOSBuild that does not match the build of the running operating system.
 
I'm on the new GM now.

however, that's what everyone said about the 1st GM seed. and it was on the App. Store 6 days later after the release to update from DP 8, (i was too lazy to download it on the developer website) so i saw it on App. Store :) lol

Yeah this sounds sensible.

When you look at it:

Most developers are probably running the first GM, considering the new one isn't even on the dev portal and the only way to download it is redownloading from the app store. It wouldn't make any sense for apple to leave all the developers that have downloaded and installed the first GM to test their apps out in the cold when its officially released.
 
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