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Then you are out of luck. You will have to wait till someone gives you the new version, or Apple makes it available on the AppStore.[/QUOTE]

Will I have to pay for it?
 
I'm looking forward to this more than the new iPads.

It will be the first time in many years I can upgrade to the new OS without having to wait, as I now have a new (late 2012) iMac.
 
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Then you are out of luck. You will have to wait till someone gives you the new version, or Apple makes it available on the AppStore.

Will I have to pay for it?[/QUOTE]

We will find out on Tuesday from Tim Cook. I guess 19,99$ would be the maximum price for it..
 
Will I have to pay for it?

We will find out on Tuesday from Tim Cook. I guess 19,99$ would be the maximum price for it..[/QUOTE]

If I obtain the new GM again, can I install the same as I did for the first GM? I don't want to lose anything
 
I wonder if this release will be as UNDERWHELMING as the iOS 7 release - Apple has great hardware BUT lousy software.
 
You might try the obvious and close most of those browser tabs. Each open one is constantly updating in the background, which will have a significant negative impact on your OS. In addition, having an app like Photoshop open with active images is yet another anchor on your speed.

Your comment "so really shouldn't run bad but it does" is totally inaccurate. You are pushing the limits, especially with a rMBP that uses more resources than the old versions.

Close down programs you aren't using or, at least, close the active files within those programs unless you need to access them frequently. In your browser, use the bookmarks bar - you can create folders on it to keep things organized and handy.

Give it a try and, after you close up all those tabs and photo files, do a restart to settle things down for your poor overworked MBP.


I might be wrong, so I quoted you so you can correct me—would the guy you were responding to see a pretty significant speed upgrade with Mavericks due to AppNap?
 
It would be even funnier if apple release build 13A603 to the public as a free upgrade from mountain lion, but not for mavericks build 13A598!
 
We will find out on Tuesday from Tim Cook. I guess 19,99$ would be the maximum price for it..

If I obtain the new GM again, can I install the same as I did for the first GM? I don't want to lose anything[/QUOTE]

You will be able to update your current installation without losing anything.

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I might be wrong, so I quoted you so you can correct me—would the guy you were responding to see a pretty significant speed upgrade with Mavericks due to AppNap?

No. AppNap is a power management technology and depends also on the apps to take advantage of it.
 
Conventions

Why was it so hard for Apple to stick to the conventions. It's supposed to be the release version. Now "Gold Master" has lost it's meaning in regards to Apple. They could have name it "The Pink Unicorn Release" and it would mean as much.

I might be exaggerating, but I believe in keeping such things well organized.
 
I wonder if this release will be as UNDERWHELMING as the iOS 7 release - Apple has great hardware BUT lousy software.

Mavericks is the greatest OS release for years and offers some great features:
  • Safari is really amazing. A big improvement from previous versions, offering autocomplete of passwords, plugin management, full Retina support with smooth scrolling and much more
  • Maps is great and a very welcome addition
  • Finder Tabs. No more need for 3rd party software. Finder Tabs are great
  • Tags: This is really important and it helps organizing files and bringing together local and remote storage (even iCloud)
  • iBooks: I love to have it on the Mac too
  • Automatic updates for apps on the AppStore
  • AppNap: New power management feature
  • Memory compression: This will improve performance on systems running low on memory
  • Actionable notifications: This is another great feature that I enjoy using.
  • New Calendar with nice features like integration with Maps and support for travel time when creating an appointment. Nice UI also.

I am pretty sure this is really underwhelming for you though...
 
Pretty sure Microsoft is a much larger 'operating system company' than Apple, unless Apple now controls 91% of the x86 market and sells iOS to other people now?

I'm not so sure anymore. Apple have sold how many iDevices so far? Around 600 million in June, so it'll be more than 700 million soon. How many Windows licences are out there? Approximately the same amount. So Apple might have a larger install base of their iOS than MS has for Windows nowadays. And don't say they are not comparable. We aren't comparing marketshare, we are comparing devices using a company's OS.
 
Why was it so hard for Apple to stick to the conventions. It's supposed to be the release version. Now "Gold Master" has lost it's meaning in regards to Apple. They could have name it "The Pink Unicorn Release" and it would mean as much.

I might be exaggerating, but I believe in keeping such things well organized.

Well, when they released it, they expected it to be the release version. Once and a while they'll find an issue they need to fix before release. I'm sure they didn't release this as the GM knowing they'd have to issue another update.
 
Mavericks is the greatest OS release for years and offers some great features:
  • Safari is really amazing. A big improvement from previous versions, offering autocomplete of passwords, plugin management, full Retina support with smooth scrolling and much more
  • Maps is great and a very welcome addition
  • Finder Tabs. No more need for 3rd party software. Finder Tabs are great
  • Tags: This is really important and it helps organizing files and bringing together local and remote storage (even iCloud)
  • iBooks: I love to have it on the Mac too
  • Automatic updates for apps on the AppStore
  • AppNap: New power management feature
  • Memory compression: This will improve performance on systems running low on memory
  • Actionable notifications: This is another great feature that I enjoy using.
  • New Calendar with nice features like integration with Maps and support for travel time when creating an appointment. Nice UI also.

I am pretty sure this is really underwhelming for you though...

He must want charms and tiles :D
 
You might try the obvious and close most of those browser tabs. Each open one is constantly updating in the background, which will have a significant negative impact on your OS. In addition, having an app like Photoshop open with active images is yet another anchor on your speed.

Your comment "so really shouldn't run bad but it does" is totally inaccurate. You are pushing the limits, especially with a rMBP that uses more resources than the old versions.

Close down programs you aren't using or, at least, close the active files within those programs unless you need to access them frequently. In your browser, use the bookmarks bar - you can create folders on it to keep things organized and handy.

Give it a try and, after you close up all those tabs and photo files, do a restart to settle things down for your poor overworked MBP.


Well those are the tabs I use regularly like all the news sites I check semi-regular, all my email tabs, and as a web developer all the websites I am currently working on (front and backend) - I’m sorry but my 2010 MBP had 90 tabs open no problem, I use Roccat which seems to respond much better with this amount of tabs then other browsers (Firefox is the worst).

But seriously this laptop is very expensive and is a “pro” laptop and it can’t handle a web browser... really? - I can’t accept that, this machine is meant for video editing, music recording, graphic design, web development, app development and other heavy CPU tasks... I don’t classify browsing (something which an iPhone can do) a heavy task - Safari on my iPhone has more than 30 tabs.. (sure it has to refresh them which is annoying)
 
Can anyone tell me how Mavericks runs on a 15" Retina MBP as Mountain Lion runs like s*** on mine - so laggy and frame droppy.

Hoping Mavericks fixes this up!

Thats naff all to do with mountain lion - using it on a rMBP just fine.
 
Well those are the tabs I use regularly like all the news sites I check semi-regular, all my email tabs, and as a web developer all the websites I am currently working on (front and backend) - I’m sorry but my 2010 MBP had 90 tabs open no problem, I use Roccat which seems to respond much better with this amount of tabs then other browsers (Firefox is the worst).

But seriously this laptop is very expensive and is a “pro” laptop and it can’t handle a web browser... really? - I can’t accept that, this machine is meant for video editing, music recording, graphic design, web development, app development and other heavy CPU tasks... I don’t classify browsing (something which an iPhone can do) a heavy task - Safari on my iPhone has more than 30 tabs.. (sure it has to refresh them which is annoying)

If it sucks so much, why don't you get rid of it? Buy an Asus or something, or go back to your 2010 model?
 
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