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Time for another Snow Leopard moment I think .

iOS needs same de bloating also .
 
Didn't know that, interesting. After that Shift + Command + G in a new Finder window and your good... but quiet cumbersome compared to Windows.
I don’t know what your use case is where you need a path, but here’s another tip I found useful: When you need to target a file or folder in Terminal, you can drag and drop it into the Terminal from Finder and it will get pasted as its path.
 
I'm waiting for the day when you can copy your location in the finder and then paste it in another finder window, or document etc.
This is simple as pie in Windows but Apple doesn't offer it.
During recording this make work flow a LOT easier and much faster.
No can do in Mac.

Copying path has been CMD+option+C for some time now. In any case, I've been using it for what feels like years. Opening a new finder window with the same location is a bit more tricky. Anyway, in 10.14 you can set up an automator step for that and have it on our touchbar or something ;)
 
There is also a full installer available for beta 2.

Method 1:

Run the macOS Developer Beta Access Utility and if you are in beta 1, it opens the System Updates preferences pane from which you can download the full installer.

Method 2 (a bit harder)


One may get the Mojave beta 2 full installer here:


https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/macos-10-14-beta/id1354523149?mt=12


And this link will open the page in the mac app store.


This does indeed download a “full installer” beta 2. BUT - it’s only 12MB! That clearly has a lot of stuff missing. So I don’t believe it is really the whole thing.


Full installer packages which SHOULD have downloaded are:


MajorOSInfo.pkg (I believe this one is new in Mojave)


InstallInfo.plist


OSInstall.mpkg


InstallESDDmg.pkg


BaseSystem.dmg


InstallAssistantAuto.pkg


BaseSystem.chunklist


RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg


AppleDiagnostics.dmg


InstallESDDmg.chunklist


AppleDiagnostics.chunklist


Thankfully however the new createinstallmedia has a new functionality called downloadassets. And THAT is how you can download all these packages.


One thing which IS in the 12MB installer is /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia


So with this tiny bit of functionality of the installer one may proceed as follows to download the whole thing:


Format an 8GB USB as HFS+ Journalled, and call it Untitled.


Now run this in terminal (note since this is downloading too it is going to take much longer than usual to run):


sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --downloadassets


It will make a bootable usb for beta 2.
 
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Those are words coming from former Google and Microsoft Devs now professors. Unless they’re lying to us completely or have weird coding practices, that what I’m preparing for in the job market.
I always start over mostly fresh in every major update to my projects.
Odds are you'll never write an operating system in your career. Please do not conflate applications with operating systems.

My systems admin prof (1986) said anytime he laid his hands on a computer system he hadn't seen before he from then on had 'hands on' experience without lying.

I recently helped a colleagues' son in college (for an EE) with a couple of his C programming projects, because he 'just didn't get it'. The professors directions were so convoluted it took me 4 hours to produce what should have been a 10 minute project. Not all profs know what the hell they are talking about. Theory doesnt count for much in the real world.
 
Those are words coming from former Google and Microsoft Devs now professors. Unless they’re lying to us completely or have weird coding practices, that what I’m preparing for in the job market.

A professor doesn't necessarily have much perspective on real-world practices.

In CS in particular, theory is often quite remove from software engineering reality.

I always start over mostly fresh in every major update to my projects.

That may be so, but isn't how any major software project works. Rewrites do happen, but they're rare and often turn out to be a terrible idea.

None of the major operating systems have seen a rewrite in a long time. macOS Mojave is largely an evolution of NeXTSTEP (from late 1980s) with Mac OS Classic additions, not a rewrite; Windows 10 is an evolution of NT (also from late 1980s) with additions from Windows 9x. Linux (the kernel) has been evolving since the early 1990s; it has never been rewritten nor seen a major change of direction.

The canceled Netscape 5 is one of those rare examples of a rewrite attempt, and that didn't go well.

And since you name Google and Microsoft in particular: I suppose it's possible rewrites happen more frequently at Google, but most definitely not at Microsoft. It just doesn't happen much, and it especially doesn't happen "usually", suggesting some kind of frequent basis.
 
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but I just formatted my bootable beta 1 usb to make a bootable usb for beta 2. When copying and pasting the command (sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 10.14\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --downloadassets) in Terminal, it tells me, that the command can't be found. What am I doing wrong? :/

sudo: /Applications/Install macOS 10.14 Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia: command not found

Try putting it in quotes instead.
 
They don't. These are power-user features. A file path isn't something most people will ever want to deal with, and copying it isn't relevant to them.



If they want to discover some advanced stuff, yes.



The first option is bad because it clutters the UI with features that are only of interest to a small portion of people. The second is slightly less bad; it, too, makes the UI more cluttered, but I can see the appeal.

When copying a group of selected files to a location and an identically named file already exists, only a "power user" would want to skip the file and continue copying the rest?

When connecting an external monitor and it is not detected, only a "power user" would want to tell the Mac OS to detect the monitor?

Gamers and people named "hax0r" may be accustomed to easter egg hunts or may even enjoy it, but this is also supposed to be an operating system made for productivity. I would bet that if Windows started doing the same thing, the same people defending Mac OS would be complaining about it in Windows.

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There's not much difference between the DP1 and DP2 releases. It looks about the same and seems just about the same in stability and performance. Mail was crashing a bit too often in the last build, but apart from that most applications still work. OpenEmu doesn't work but that's something I've expected with DP's.

Photoshop, XD, Illustrator, Sketch all work without issue. Coda doesn't work correctly anymore but I assume it'll be fixed down the line.
 
Gamers and people named "hax0r" may be accustomed to easter egg hunts or may even enjoy it, but this is also supposed to be an operating system made for productivity. I would bet that if Windows started doing the same thing, the same people defending Mac OS would be complaining about it in Windows.

As someone who uses both macOS and Windows, I don't see why having it in one invalidates it in the other.

Windows has plenty of stuff only available through the command line, the registry, or alternative UIs (such as classic Control Panel vs. Settings, MMC, or group policies).

There would be no major loss if Finder didn't support copying the path at all, as you could easily add the functionality by writing a shell script or Apple Script, then add it to the toolbar. But it does support it, and it does it in a way that doesn't intrude upon the majority of users.
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There's not much difference between the DP1 and DP2 releases. It looks about the same and seems just about the same in stability and performance.

Why are we expecting major differences after just over two weeks?

(Also, there are in fact noticeable differences, such as dark Maps view.)
 
As someone who uses both macOS and Windows, I don't see why having it in one invalidates it in the other.

Totally agree with your assessment.

As a person who makes a living pushing bits, the moment you tie yourself to a single OS is the moment you should start prepping for your next job. Every changing, One OS leapfrogging the other....enjoy it and quit acting like either is superior.

I tend to fly on the side where I feel most respected. Say what you will, but Balmer on stage acting like a crazy man screaming DEVELOPER, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS meant something.

Full disclosure, worked at MS very briefly in the late 90's - I wasn't a culture fit. Back then the place wanted automatons and ass lickers.
 
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Well, I'm not sure it's as easy as windows, but in Finder, if you show the path bar (View -> Show Path Bar), then in the path bar, right click on the folder, and choose copy "xxx" as Pathname -- it will copy the path. You can then paste it in a document, or in another Finder window via Shift+Cmd+G followed by Cmd+V.

Why not just right click on the last item in the path bar (at the bottom) and pick "Open in New Tab"?

Done. Fewer steps than Windows.
 
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Regretfully there will never be another release like Snow Leopard as it is iOS that has caused all the bloat which began in Lion.

I honestly don't know what bloat people are talking about. High Sierra was very close to Snow Leopard. It fixed any unexplained UI lag I had, it was stable, it didn't add bloat.

Bloat is what other OEMs put on Android phones and Windows PCs. Those are bloat.
 
Not wanting to get into a discussion about this bit, had the same issue years ago. There's apps for this, plus Apple has a web page dedicated to keyboard shortcuts.

The app I use: CheatSheet
 
Those are words coming from former Google and Microsoft Devs now professors. Unless they’re lying to us completely or have weird coding practices, that what I’m preparing for in the job market.
I always start over mostly fresh in every major update to my projects.

I’m sure you’ve heard the old maxim, “Those who can't do, teach”. I think the fact they’re former devs is telling.

As someone that has over 25 years experience developing enterprise grade software, I can tell you they’re full of hooey. If that’s truly what they’re trying to communicate they’re either being deceptive (unlikely), or they really don’t have proper understanding of what it means to work on large projects over years (quite likely), or their propensity for rewriting everything is what got them pushed out of the tech industry and they don’t realize that was a contributing factor (also a possibility).

I also think there’s a perspective shift that needs to happen around the idea of what a ‘major’ project is. It is unlikely anyone in university will be involved with, or produce, a product that would be considered major in the real world (barring incidental exposure during internships). I’m not trivializing the work university students do, but nothing done at school is going to be on the scope of a project that requires dozens, scores, or even hundreds or thousands of developers, working in concert, for years, to develop a single product. And iterating releases over that product almost never involves total rewrites. Too many lessons would have to be re-learned, too many ‘gotchas’ would have to be rediscovered and solved for again, far too much code would be rewritten almost identical to how it had been before, and far, far too much development effort vs massaging what you already have and smoothing out the freshly introduced destabilizing bits.

It would be helpful for people to let go of this idea that a company is being silly for not embarking on a ground-up rewrite of something like a major OS. It’s virtually never done and for many good reasons. If Apple were to do it, it would take several years, at least, and would still require a large number of iterations to ‘get right’. That, and the fact that they certainly don’t need to, I don’t see it happening for a long, long time, if ever.
 
Windows NT is actually a more modern version of VMS; Cutler came from DEC and was Mr. VMS, among other things.

That's just a myth people who hate Microsoft tell each other.

Cutler being involved in designing both VMS and NT doesn't make NT "a more modern version of VMS".
 
Does switching users still involve the cube transition effect?

I’d be glad to see the back of that.

Somewhat in line with this, can there now be multiple watches added for unlock? Or at least unlock using one watch when multiple users are logged in?

Has anyone noticed that the color of the windows when using dark mode change, based on your chosen desktop background?

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Is it just me or if I have something in dark screen mode, I want it to stay the same dark color (ie black or close to).
 
The kid is so young he/she doesnt remember the year2000 issue. hundreds of millions of lines of code needing to be checked because nobody expected the software to last long enough for a 2 digit year to be a problem.

But that had nothing to do with a rewrite (or lack thereof), just with poor planning and lack of automated testing.
 
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