Apple Seeds Second Beta of macOS Catalina to Developers

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple today seeded the second beta of macOS 10.15 Catalina for testing purposes, two weeks after the new Mac operating system update was first unveiled at the Worldwide Developers Conference.

    The new macOS Catalina beta can be downloaded using the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences. As with all new betas, you're not going to want to install macOS Catalina on a primary machine as it is early release software and could have major bugs.


    macOS Catalina eliminates the iTunes app, splitting it into Music, Podcasts, and TV apps. The Apple Music and Apple Podcasts apps are available now, while the Apple TV app is coming later this year.

    The new apps are similar in function to iTunes, but are split up by feature. iOS device management is still available on the Mac, but it's now done through Finder rather than iTunes.

    With a new Sidecar feature, you can turn your iPad into a second display for your Mac with just the click of a button. The Apple Pencil works with Sidecar, so you can turn your iPad into a drawing tablet in apps like Photoshop and Illustrator.

    Your Apple Watch can be used to approve security prompts in macOS Catalina, and Macs with a T2 chip support Activation Lock. There's a new Find My that brings the Find My Mac app to the Mac for the first time and even lets you track your devices when they're offline.

    Screen Time is now available on the Mac as well as iOS devices, and Project Catalyst, a new Apple initiative, will let developers easily port their iPad apps over to the Mac.

    There's a new Photos interface that surfaces your best photos organized by day, month, or year, there's a new start page in Safari, Mail has new tools for muting email threads and blocking senders, and the Reminders app has been overhauled.

    32-bit apps no longer work in macOS Catalina, which is something to be aware of before installing the beta. Right now, Catalina is limited to developers, but Apple plans to release a public beta in July ahead of a fall public launch.

    For more details on macOS Catalina, make sure to check out our macOS Catalina roundup.

    Article Link: Apple Seeds Second Beta of macOS Catalina to Developers
  2. Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

    Amazing Iceman

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida, U.S.A.
    Installing now (upgrading from Beta 1) on a spare MacBook Air.
    So far, no issues on Beta 1, but still afraid to install on my regular MacBook.
  3. macintoshmac macrumors 68030


    May 13, 2010
    Do share your thoughts when you have taken the second beta for a spin.

    I tried the first, and found some fundamental workflow issues that meant I had to downgrade the system back to Mojave. Things like apps not reflecting in Launchpad, Finder not updating quick enough, some other basic things. I did like the overall system snappiness on my Air 2017. Positive step. Waiting for it to iron out some more bugs.

    How did you not encounter issues? :)
  4. dsampley macrumors 6502


    Jul 2, 2007
    This beta has been pretty bug free for me so far. Downloading and installing beta 2 now
  5. macintoshmac macrumors 68030


    May 13, 2010
    Is the launchpad bug a random or maybe device specific bug then, where third party apps do not reflect and if you reset launchpad, the apps downloaded from App Store disappear too?
  6. Mike Haas macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2014
    6.45 GB - about 3 hours remaining. Yeah, I figured Beta 2 would be popular...
  7. imran5720 macrumors regular


    Dec 21, 2013
  8. verniesgarden macrumors 65816


    May 29, 2007
    Portland, Or
    will be downloading to my test machine later, hoing this gets fixed as well
  9. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 601


    Jul 4, 2015
    Looks like you are downloading the full installer. Try downloading the beta 2 profile from dev center first.
  10. rwilliams macrumors 68040


    Apr 8, 2009
    Raleigh, NC
  11. Mike Haas, Jun 17, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019

    Mike Haas macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2014
    Yeah, I think you're right.
  12. americanguy macrumors member

    Jul 29, 2011
    6,45 GB is lot for the Dev Beta 2 Update no? And I have installed Beta Profile for 10.15
  13. Mike Haas macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2014
    I'd like to see them bring back home sharing - at least by the final build.
  14. chrisdazzo macrumors 6502


    Apr 11, 2006
    Very curious to see how stable this is, I've experienced issues (beta, duh) which forced me to downgrade in the past, prior to Public beta 2. Just my 2c.
  15. krusnof macrumors newbie


    Nov 29, 2007
    Topanga, CA
    Actually I had the same after getting the profile. It launches as a new installer, but hoping it’s just updating...
  16. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 601


    Jul 4, 2015
    If there is a big difference in this beta then they are probably seeding the full install instead of an update.
  17. rbgaynor, Jun 17, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019

    rbgaynor macrumors member


    Nov 18, 2010
    Southern California
    Apple said in early July during the keynote.
  18. Mike Haas macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2014
    Yeah - I have the Beta Profile installed as well. However, the 3 hour time is off - it's already approaching 3 GB downloaded in only about 20 minutes, still saying "3 hours."
  19. daveedjackson macrumors member

    Aug 6, 2009
    Loads of bugs here, photoshop issues when saving out, not changing the extension on images. file preview issues, and associated programs. When downloading zipped files, no longer do the zips get deleted and auto unpack. Hopefully this will iron out those things.
  20. cponto macrumors newbie


    Sep 23, 2016
    Home Sharing works well with Catalina Beta 1

    Attached Files:

  21. Mike Haas macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2014
    I could not sync my iPhone X. It would show in Finder but I'd get a blank page after it loaded the space remaining data. The Music and Apple TV apps are bare minimum functionality. Photos didn't like my default data file. Fortunately, I had backups. All sorts of weird issues. However, it was stable for a first beta otherwise.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 17, 2019 ---
    Where was it? I saw no place to turn it on and nothing showed up on the Apple TV (I have the 4 - it hasn't been updated to the beta).
  22. vbctv macrumors 6502


    Sep 25, 2013
    Cleveland, OH
    It seems to only be a full installer of 6.45GB. I even tried reinstalling the beta profile on my macOS after I saw how big, thinking it was a mistake, but it just showed up again. For some reason I remember them doing this a few years ago also and then beta 3 it was changed...
  23. tywebb13, Jun 17, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019

    tywebb13 macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2012
    Build number is 19A487l.

    Whether or not it is available as a delta update I actually prefer a full installer so as to make a bootable usb for beta 2.

    In mojave prerelease betas they made full installers for all of them, which is a major improvement on previous versions where in order to get beta 8 for example you had to install first the full one for beta 1 and then 7 deltas in the proper sequence. With full installers however such pain is no longer required. So I hope they do the same thing for Catalina - and it seems they probably will.
  24. BWhaler macrumors 68030


    Jan 8, 2003
    Can’t wait. Catalina and iOS 13 look like great releases.
  25. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    The first couple of builds are almost always full installs.

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