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Apple Sells Out of iPhone 4S Pre-Order Stocks for Launch Day in U.S.
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Having gone through this with the launch of the 4...ignore what Verizon reps tell you or what the status thing says on the website. You will likely get it on launch day or at most the following day.
Yes Apple is such a failure that is why everyone wants their products, everyone copies what they do, their stock is up 600%, oh yes wait they have more cash then the US Government, and wait the 4S was such a failure that everyone said no one would buy them, that they sold out of pre orders.
Man where do you get your information, look at RIM, they were so horrible at their tablets they reduced the price of each model by $200 just to move them, HP begged BestBuy not to stop selling their tablet, and the Motorola and Samsung are the only two competing with Apple and they are no where near the volumes that Apple has, in fact combined they do not even sell near half of what Apple does, so yes if all those facts are true Apple is a failure.
I am sure I am not alone when I state Apple is the farthest thing from a failure and so is the 4S. The iPhone 4 and 3GS are the top first an second place best selling phones.
Also funny how everyone compares Android to Apple, Apple sells three phones with iOS, Android is on like 50 models with 5-6 versions so I ask how this is a comparison, Apple verse Motorola, HTC, Samsung, Sony and all the rest of the MFG's. My $ is on Apple without a doubt.
But... you're saying this like you know how many were sold! I assume that part of the reason Apple stuck with the design was in order to stock up--and the fact that AT&T sold in 12 hours what equals 1/3 of the iPhone 4 first days sales is proof that they had more on hand!
Yesterday, Apple divvied up their 4S stock between 3 US carriers AND a large number of international carriers as well AND retail stock. Another poster estimated hypothetically that each party in the US (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and the retail Apple Store) had 200,000 each. That means 800,000 were sold (or, in the retail case, expect to be sold) on October 14th.
Throw in, I don't know, another 200,000 phones for the remainder of the international market (which strikes me as low, but not super low), and that means Apple had ONE MILLION phones on launch day! That's a 66% increase over last time.
I got all the way to the check out and balked. I was thinking "$471... that's a lot of money. And my 3GS works fine."
Not like I can't afford it. I'm just a cheap-ass
Don't know why you got down ranked...perfectly valid feeling/course of events.
Part of the reason why you can afford it is by making cost/value judgement decisions and have a "value" for money.
I can't help but feel the prices are inflated due to carrier involvement/bidding...etc.
I say that strictly based on the "max" cost for the 64GB iPhone versus the comparable iPad 2.
On one hand, smaller components may cost more blah blah...but the A5 chip costs have come down by virtue of the iPads success so idk.
If you need a phone, buy it. I made the jump from A4 to A5 via launch iPad 1 and then two, and it is a major leap in performance.
If you can wait, the 5 IS coming out...
You have to assume that the pre-orders would be filled but I was surprised it took so long. I was still able to pre-order yesterday evening from Verizon (if I wanted to). It is naive to assume that first day sales equals overall success for Apple. Apple will kill Android in the month of October and November and that is to be expected. Apple must kept up the pace for an entire year with their current lineup, 3gs (kill this phone already), iphone 4 and iphone 4s which if history repeats itself sales will drop the closer you get to iphone 5. Meanwhile Android releases a superphone every few weeks and a new model is always in the news.
This battle just begun but Android is too aggressive with their hardware releases for iphone to beat Android combined. Apple "might" win overall phone sales but Google cares about overall footprint.
As for me I like jailbreaking/rooting my phones. If A5 is like anything in the ipad 2 the iphone 4S will not see a proper jailbreak.
This battle just begun but Android is too aggressive with their hardware releases for iphone to beat Android combined. Apple "might" win overall phone sales but Google cares about overall footprint.
As for me I like jailbreaking/rooting my phones. If A5 is like anything in the ipad 2 the iphone 4S will not see a proper jailbreak.
What if the next phone is not called iPhone 5 ? You might be in for a long wait... just ask the PowerBook G5 crowd.
Yogi Berra logic: Nobody ever goes to that restaurant...it's always too crowded...
Our story from average folks.
This is going to be my wife's 1st iPhone. I have a crap phone and not available for upgrade till next summer. We took our time with this, played with our friends-families iOS and Androids before we made the decision. Decided to go with IPhone 4 and then decided to wait and see what would be announced.
We were mindful we were buying an ecosystem as much as a phone. Many here must have a lot more money than us and can just throw a tantrum and switch phones if they don't get what they wish for. We can't. Apps, accessories, etc, we were buying one experience over the other. We played with a lot of our friends' Androids and found them to be pretty good, but screen size was an issue in reverse. We liked having bigger screens since we are both approaching 50 and they were easier to see but we agreed many of them were like toting walkie talkies around. The iOS seemed smoother and better integrated. It was also easier to manipulate because the screen was 3.5 and we could reach everything with our thumbs. I'm a big guy but my wife is tiny. A repairmen arrived with a new Android two weeks ago and let us play with his device. I spend 5 minutes with it but my wife had hardly touched it before she handed it back. "it's too big!"
The deciding factor was the camera on the iPhone S. My wife chronically forgets our point and shoot Kodak and she misses shots of the grandkids when she does bring it because the damn thing is so slow. We did the math on the plans and realized that it was a 2 grand commitment over 24 months so we might as well get her the best and newest.
I think most average people like us--she has iTunes on her Dell--understand that we are buying a larger iCloud based ecosystem and we preferred iOS.
Average folks will buy this phone regardless of disgruntled hard cores. I think that is what is happening. Wife is pumped to get hers on the 14th.
This is going to be my wife's 1st iPhone. I have a crap phone and not available for upgrade till next summer. We took our time with this, played with our friends-families iOS and Androids before we made the decision. Decided to go with IPhone 4 and then decided to wait and see what would be announced.
We were mindful we were buying an ecosystem as much as a phone. Many here must have a lot more money than us and can just throw a tantrum and switch phones if they don't get what they wish for. We can't. Apps, accessories, etc, we were buying one experience over the other. We played with a lot of our friends' Androids and found them to be pretty good, but screen size was an issue in reverse. We liked having bigger screens since we are both approaching 50 and they were easier to see but we agreed many of them were like toting walkie talkies around. The iOS seemed smoother and better integrated. It was also easier to manipulate because the screen was 3.5 and we could reach everything with our thumbs. I'm a big guy but my wife is tiny. A repairmen arrived with a new Android two weeks ago and let us play with his device. I spend 5 minutes with it but my wife had hardly touched it before she handed it back. "it's too big!"
The deciding factor was the camera on the iPhone S. My wife chronically forgets our point and shoot Kodak and she misses shots of the grandkids when she does bring it because the damn thing is so slow. We did the math on the plans and realized that it was a 2 grand commitment over 24 months so we might as well get her the best and newest.
I think most average people like us--she has iTunes on her Dell--understand that we are buying a larger iCloud based ecosystem and we preferred iOS.
Average folks will buy this phone regardless of disgruntled hard cores. I think that is what is happening. Wife is pumped to get hers on the 14th.
I know everyone thinks the next generation after the 4s will be the iPhone 5 but if you think about it it's going to be the 6th generation iPhone. Will they skip 5 and go right to the iPhone 6?
That's what I would expect. Apple's sixth iPhone should be called iPhone 6. Especially if they change for the form factor.
While iPhone 4S did not sway me to go through the trouble of selling my iPhone 4 (which I just bought in June/ July... white version), I am ecstatic to see that this turned out to be anything but a flop for Apple. I didn't think it would be a flop, but I didn't see it becoming this wild success either.
The product is drawing people in for some reason, be it Siri, the camera system, iOS5, Sprint availability, but I can tell you this: yesterday, there were AT LEAST 3 people on Facebook (I only have around 100 Facebook friends, mind you) either discussing whether to buy iPhone 4S or stating that they have just ordered one. These are not Apple fans, either, these people are coming from Androids or dumb phones.
This is good news because something is drawing these users away from other platforms, which is exactly what Apple was hoping.
The product is drawing people in for some reason, be it Siri, the camera system, iOS5, Sprint availability, but I can tell you this: yesterday, there were AT LEAST 3 people on Facebook (I only have around 100 Facebook friends, mind you) either discussing whether to buy iPhone 4S or stating that they have just ordered one. These are not Apple fans, either, these people are coming from Androids or dumb phones.
This is good news because something is drawing these users away from other platforms, which is exactly what Apple was hoping.
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Great post. I think you summed up what the average folk is looking for when making their first leap towards a smartphone.
I feel that part of the success for apple lately and going forward will be due to iCloud and the ecosystem that comes with owning an apple product.
I started with the first iPhone as my first apple product. I now own many apple products and believe me that same great user experience is evident in all of their products.
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Great post. I think you summed up what the average folk is looking for when making their first leap towards a smartphone.
I feel that part of the success for apple lately and going forward will be due to iCloud and the ecosystem that comes with owning an apple product.
I started with the first iPhone as my first apple product. I now own many apple products and believe me that same great user experience is evident in all of their products.
I for one am thinking that it's the most classy, elegant, and sylish design for a phone in the world, I'm happy to keep the same exterior design without switching to a battery hungry larger screen. It's like having steak in a world of hamburgers. I'll enjoy my filet, and others can buy the two pound hamburger if that's what they want, that's what's so nice about having choices in life.That’s easy: sure, thousands of people are snapping up this phone, but they’re all wrong! You see, it’s an all-new phone, yes, but it doesn’t have a new shape! What are people thinking, settling for that?
I do think that they made a marketing mistake by not calling it an iPhone 5 though.
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If you wanted the best camera you should've waited for a Nokia ;- )
As for "buying into an ecosystem", i'd say well have to worry significantly less about this in the years to come (the only actor i see being remotely able to gain dominance is MSFT, and i seriously doubt they will succeed -- and without dominance, and the increased ease of x-platform development, well.. yeah.)
Oh well, at least you made an informed consumer choice.
Kudos, and enjoy!
:- )
Agreed, but I just don't need to feel like a kid on exactly the 14th of October.
At least someone has a sense of perspective
I have ordered a 4s and am looking forward to it arriving to replace my ip4, though I don't feel it is as far ahead of the competition as the 4 was when it was released.
Why did I buy?
1. My wife needs a new phone, she gets my ip4
2. Siri
3. Better camera (particularly the speed improvements)
4. I have tried android phones belonging to friends and found them irritating to use
The first was the clincher, otherwise I may have waited.
Maybe the development curve for smartphones is flattening as they become more mature, or perhaps Siri is a bigger deal than we imagine.
Was I the only person to be glad what the case didn't change? I have docks and in car cradles, etc, that I don't want to replace. Being able to use them for my wife's ip4 as well as my ip5 is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.
People goes on about wanting larger screens on their phones, but I don't see how this is attractive for those with smaller hands (e.g. 50% of the population). If the Siri stuff works out we may start to see phones with smaller screens coming out. I can imagine a small phone that functions as a PDA,camera and communications device (and is voice controlled) being popular.
You know, I'm one of the few that doesn't want a bigger screen (and a pretty advocate of liking the screen size on this forum even), but I don't want a smaller screen either. I think the phone is the perfect size as is. But if the screen size had to change, I'm sorry, I'd say I prefer it go bigger than smaller.
