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im not sure if i am correct, but i think most people will hold of until its worth it.

1. people want multitasking, for skype, msn, etc (i would buy 4 as my family and i love the what they could bring.

2. Camera - Skype'ing your family from abroad while seeing them would be awesome.

3. Tethering. This is my most important feature and i refuse to buy ANY until this is sorted out,, how dare they not allow me to tether the ipad to my iphone. I would happily pay more for the ability, but i refuse with out exception to pay for another data subscription. (not only that, i only have to upgrade my iphone when 4g comes out rather then buy a new ipad)

Complaint #1 may be sorted out with firmware 4.0. Complaint #3 is null if you have a jailbroken phone. If it isn't, do it and then download an app called MiWi from the Cydia store. It turns your iPhone into a wifi hotspot that anything (Including iPads) can use. Private message me if you need help.
 
You're right:
iPhone sales on 29.&30.06.07: 270,000 units
iPad sales on 03.04.10: 300,000 units
iirc both in the US alone

Time to reach 1 mio units
iPhone: around 74 days
iPad: let's see if we hear an anouncement before June 15. :)

Keep in mind people are more inclined to buy something where they arent locked in for a number of years to pay a subsidized product.

iPad doesnt come with any AT&T or other 2,3,4 years contracts.
 
Keep in mind people are more inclined to buy something where they arent locked in for a number of years to pay a subsidized product.

iPad doesnt come with any AT&T or other 2,3,4 years contracts.

I don't disagree conceptually with this, but is there actually any historical evidence to support this view in the US market?
 
Sounds about right!

The product will start to lift in sales because of word of mouth.

I wouldn't say that its magical device but it is unique and honestly very user friendly.

How is it in any way unique? Millions of people already have an iPad that they can carry around in their pocket.
 
Everything smaller than a regular laptop has compromises, and that includes netbooks that are nothing but compromises in speed and size. So in that sense the iPad fits into that niche.

But I can't stress enough how many people are misreading the iPad. It is NOT a netbook competitor. Anyone in the market for a netbook can enjoy an iPad, but the iPad is not meant for them, and they won't get the concept.

When you are used to doing things a certain way, and when you are very good at doing things that way, a new tool comes along that is great but different and your reaction to it is mixed. It certainly is an amazing device, you say to yourself, but I have to retrain my mind to get rid of all those compromises I used to have to make and instead free up a new way of using a device. An example is the stupid and convoluted method of typing that we learn. We get good at it, it becomes muscle memory, it feels natural, but it's totally artificial. It gets in the way of direct interface of finger to object. It's quite good at entering text, so we ignore the convoluted method of moving our fingers on this mechanical device that we learn. We put up with its downside in order to benefit from the good side.

The iPad is asking us to unlearn those convoluted methods. Just use finger to object. Kids who never learned computers will get it instantly. Casual users will learn it quickly. We geeks will have a stiff learning curve.

But it is not a netbook, it is not the usual kind of computer, but yes, it is very much a very real computer. Anyone who calls it a toy is deluding themselves. This thing is powerful.
 
Apple releases a limited tablet with Apple tax, and all of a sudden its a game changer? I don't see why Balmer should be crapping himself, last time I checked, MS doesnt make tablets that they'd need to redo.

Apple is brilliant at marketing and generating a hype.

Deutsche Telekom (in Germany) offered a tablet ("Sinus Pad") back in 2001. It was quite inexpensive (I think somewhere around 400 €) and it was designed to surf the web and playback media files. It had a 200 MHz ARM CPU and a 800x600 touchscreen (9 '' or something). It connected to the internet wirelessly using your home DSL or ISDN connection using DECT or optionally even WIFI. In 2001 this was very advanced technology. It was possible to install third party software on the device.

But no one cared. The device failed in the marketplace and was discontinued soon.

Christian
 
Impressive numbers! But I'd love to know who were buying those iPads. People like us or soccer moms/average consumer? I know when I was in line it was just a bunch of "techies" looking for their next fix (me included...) :(

Anyway, I'm loving my iPad but I don't think it's going to really take off until next year. Maybe at $400...idk
 
American ignorance.... U.S. only launch is a "launch into the world"... ?

What he said is correct, it was a "launch into the world" not a "world wide launch." It's akin to what people say when a baby is born, "she came into this world" meaning she is now part of the world, not that she is everywhere in the entire world.
 
Again, another example of the hive mind. If I don't love an Apple product, I must HATE it. There's no middle ground with you people. I own a MBP, a huge iMac, 2 ipods, and a Touch. I'd hardly classify myself as an Apple Hater. I'm just smart enough to know that the iFad is nothing more than a toy in its current form.

+1

I've shelled out nearly $5,000 on my first powermac almost 10 years ago. I spent $3,000 on my Mac Pro 3 years ago, and more cash went into it with upgrades. I've owned an iPod. I've recommended Macbooks to all my friends and had my parents buy one for themselves.

I spend the money on apple products when its worth it. OS X, is definitely worth it.

$500-$1000 to spend on a tablet that doesnt come with OS X where as a either a netbook can do either windows or a hackintosh, or a little more and get a macbook where it does everything right, makes me say to myself: why does this product exist, and why would anyone want it???
 
Apple releases a limited tablet with Apple tax, and all of a sudden its a game changer? I don't see why Balmer should be crapping himself, last time I checked, MS doesnt make tablets that they'd need to redo.

What is this "Apple tax" that you are talking about? I have heard of the "Microsoft Tax" - customers forced to pay for Windows when they want a computer to run Linux, but outside of Microsoft marketing circles and those who mindlessly repeat what Microsoft tells them I've never heard of an "Apple tax".
 
All in all, I think the release date of April 3 was just a big mistake. Almost all Apple stores were closed yesterday due to Easter and all Best Buys were closed.
I think it was a pure master plan. As we all agree upon, at least most of us (because the netbook lovers will never say anything good about this), it's a new product placement. So, the 'faithful' buy it. They show it of during Easter when the whole family is together. Apple knew they had to get this in the hand of people to understand how this product fit their lifestyle, as there isn't anything comparable. Pure genius to use a holiday for it. Plus they can use this extra day to reset the stores back to 'normal'...
 
What is this "Apple tax" that you are talking about? I have heard of the "Microsoft Tax" - customers forced to pay for Windows when they want a computer to run Linux, but outside of Microsoft marketing circles and those who mindlessly repeat what Microsoft tells them I've never heard of an "Apple tax".

Hmm....next time I buy a mac pro im gonna ask to have it shipped to me without OS X, i'd like to save some cash and install my existing copy.....or linux.

Does apple do this?
 
What is this "Apple tax" that you are talking about? I have heard of the "Microsoft Tax" - customers forced to pay for Windows when they want a computer to run Linux, but outside of Microsoft marketing circles and those who mindlessly repeat what Microsoft tells them I've never heard of an "Apple tax".

He's referring to the ridiculous upcharge we ALL pay for buying anything with the Apple name on it. Early adopters are the biggest Apple victims. I should know, I was one of the ones that got ripped by the initial iPhone (worst phone I've ever owned). And please inform of which Apple laptops or desktops come with the option to drop the price and not include the OS.
 
I think it was a pure master plan. As we all agree upon, at least most of us (because the netbook lovers will never say anything good about this), it's a new product placement. So, the 'faithful' buy it. They show it of during Easter when the whole family is together. Apple knew they had to get this in the hand of people to understand how this product fit their lifestyle, as there isn't anything comparable. Pure genius to use a holiday for it. Plus they can use this extra day to reset the stores back to 'normal'...

Interesting (and sensible) perspective.
 
Impressive numbers! But I'd love to know who were buying those iPads. People like us or soccer moms/average consumer? I know when I was in line it was just a bunch of "techies" looking for their next fix (me included...) :(

Anyway, I'm loving my iPad but I don't think it's going to really take off until next year. Maybe at $400...idk

Hard to say for sure, but my guess is that most of the first day buyers were the geeks and the trendy idiots who like to think it makes them look cool to own a piece of new Apple tech. The soccer moms and average consumers, the iPads most natural market, probably are only dimly aware of its existence until it was the top news story on Saturday in the mainstream media. Now they heard of it, but they still aren't sure what to make of it.

They will learn. They'll see a friend with one and then they'll get it. It will speak to them.

You know what I did on Saturday? I was so busy trying out my iPad I neglected to eat. I realized I was hungry, but I was in the middle of watching a video. So instead of pausing, I brought my iPad into the kitchen and made myself a meal while the video kept playing. I've never been tempted to do that with a computer, but with the iPad it just felt natural. It was a companion device that does what I want whenever I want and wherever I want.

Soccer moms will love it. This is going to be a massive seller once the word gets out among the average consumers.
 
I think it was a pure master plan. As we all agree upon, at least most of us (because the netbook lovers will never say anything good about this), it's a new product placement. So, the 'faithful' buy it. They show it of during Easter when the whole family is together. Apple knew they had to get this in the hand of people to understand how this product fit their lifestyle, as there isn't anything comparable. Pure genius to use a holiday for it. Plus they can use this extra day to reset the stores back to 'normal'...

I've sold two of them already that way. Two relatives saw it, said they had to have one too. One is a casual computer user, the other a geek. Both were amazed and delighted by what the iPad can do.
 
Hard to say for sure, but my guess is that most of the first day buyers were the geeks and the trendy idiots who like to think it makes them look cool to own a piece of new Apple tech. The soccer moms and average consumers, the iPads most natural market, probably are only dimly aware of its existence until it was the top news story on Saturday in the mainstream media. Now they heard of it, but they still aren't sure what to make of it.

They will learn. They'll see a friend with one and then they'll get it. It will speak to them.

You know what I did on Saturday? I was so busy trying out my iPad I neglected to eat. I realized I was hungry, but I was in the middle of watching a video. So instead of pausing, I brought my iPad into the kitchen and made myself a meal while the video kept playing. I've never been tempted to do that with a computer, but with the iPad it just felt natural. It was a companion device that does what I want whenever I want and wherever I want.

Soccer moms will love it. This is going to be a massive seller once the word gets out among the average consumers.

My sister is a soccer mom. She buys everything Apple poops out. She checked out the iPad at Best Buy on Saturday intending to buy it...and walked out empty-handed. Didn't want it. A computer she can't multitask on. A computer her kids can't visit their favorite websites on? All deal breakers to a customer that Apple should have easily won over and didn't because of the moronic things they left out of this "game changing device".
 
Impressive numbers for such an expensive device, but otherwise, not really. I have never experienced such a media blitz for any other device. For God sakes, there were 4 difference stories running on CNN.com this weekend. Was this really news?

For an unknown comidity, I could see this picking up steam in the coming months. But, it's not. Everyone with an iPhone or an iPod Touch already know about this item. It's not like people are going to "discover" this in the coming month. Most people on planet Earth already know about this.

2nd, the price is too much. The average customer will compare these prices to netbooks and will be scared away. And remember, the iPhone didn't become super popular until it became subsidized (and affordable to the masses).

3rd, it offers no necessary function. The iPhone is a phone. Who doesn't have a cellphone? It's a necessity. Due the iPhone's phone part being a necessity, most people were/are able to easily justify it's purchase. Not so with the ipad, unless we see some drastic changes in the coming months.
 
Folks lets not forget a couple of important things here:

1) This number included online sales - however that means that lots of people bought this device sight unseen - that has to mean something.
2) In store sales probably only took place over one day most likely. This is Easter Weekend, most of the sales would have taken place on that Saturday and not on Sunday (as most retailers would be closed). The iPhone garnished less sales and it debuted on a Friday if I recall.

300,000 is not too shabby given those two things.
 
Keep in mind people are more inclined to buy something where they arent locked in for a number of years to pay a subsidized product.

iPad doesnt come with any AT&T or other 2,3,4 years contracts.

You're right, maybe we should not compare the iPad to the iPhone, but to the iPod touch.

By the way, one year ago, the iPod touch sales number have been around 25% lower then the iPhone numbers. That might have changed by now though.
 
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