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Apple Sending iOS 5 to iPhone Assemblers at End of September, No Sign of Redesigned iPhone 5
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No he isn't and there is no such thing as the "N97".
Hadn't seen that WSJ acticle until now.
Well I have to say that if they don't update the design on the new iphone I won't be buying one.
I hated the design of the iPhone 4 and have been waiting to see what the new one is like before I even consider moving from the 3GS.
If it's not a new design I'm definitely going to consider the samsung galaxy note.
I hated the design of the iPhone 4 and have been waiting to see what the new one is like before I even consider moving from the 3GS.
If it's not a new design I'm definitely going to consider the samsung galaxy note.
MARK...
Ummm.... 3GS is still around and still sells really well.
A lot of mobile phones makers keep the older models around with maybe a small tweak to service a broad market. Not sure why Apple wouldn't do the same thing.
With most people keeping their phone 2 or more years. Apple could do a tick tock iPhone release each year. One year curvy like iPhone 3 and rumored 5 alternate years more slab like the first and four. Keep each one in the market for 2-3 years. If there are obvious tweaks to make to last years model then it gets an "s". There does seem to be a real market divide on the curvy vs slaby debate.
Sales of the 3GS would sure seem to suggest the market is there for Apple to keep older models around to extend development cost coverage.
I personally don't see an issue if we're seeing the same form factor in this revision of the iPhone.
I purchased the 1st generation iPod Touch when it came out, and if you compare it to the latest version, very little has changed but yet it still sells. The iPhone, no matter what form factor it gets, will still sell.
I purchased the 1st generation iPod Touch when it came out, and if you compare it to the latest version, very little has changed but yet it still sells. The iPhone, no matter what form factor it gets, will still sell.
In once sense I wouldn't be surprised if Apple went the route it takes with its computers. In that every year they do a hardware refresh without any major cosmetic changes. So a speed bump (A4 - A5) camera bump and a few other improvements, then bring out a radical new design in a few years.
But I am holding out for a nice new shiny thing to play with. But then again I think Apple likes to keep us guessing!
But I am holding out for a nice new shiny thing to play with. But then again I think Apple likes to keep us guessing!
miniscule 3.5" screen? 
if this article holds true, iphone will lag severely behind andoid for the next 13 months. nexus prime is looking mighty attractive all the sudden.
if this article holds true, iphone will lag severely behind andoid for the next 13 months. nexus prime is looking mighty attractive all the sudden.
Given that Apple migrated from the 3 to 3GS, going from 4 to 4S as their main device is not so far fetched. It would also pump up Apples profit. There's nothing wrong with that.
Thank you for expanding, you are so clever...
Thank you for expanding, you are so clever...
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The only thing which lets Apples future plans down is the networks, Apple iSat, ohh i should patent that ... or have they?
Yep, I have been in situations where I have had no signal and wanted to access email and web pages, obviously you would just turn over a rock and find a wifi router
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First, the iPhone "3" as you put it was the iPhone 2, it just was named the 3G. And the iPhone 3GS bump was a major one, much more than the iPhone to iPhone 3G bump was.
So yes, a "4S" is far fetched. Why fix the numbering scheme with iPhone 4 only to break it again by releasing a "4S" ?
Ipod
People seem mostly to forget that this is the first time Apple aligns a new iphone release with that of new ipods. They will probably drop its touch suffix. I predict the following future iOS line-up:
People seem mostly to forget that this is the first time Apple aligns a new iphone release with that of new ipods. They will probably drop its touch suffix. I predict the following future iOS line-up:
- audio + video, incredible touchscreen, cameras, complex games iWall
- audio + video, huge touchscreen, camera, complex games iTable, iPlate, iDesk
- audio + video, huge screen, camera, complex games iTV, iTube, i Screen
- audio + video, external screen, external camera, complex games Apple TV 3
- audio + video, external screen Apple TV 2s
- audio + video + text, large screen, keyboard, cameras, phone, complex games iBook / Macbook Air 3
- audio + video + text, large screen, keyboard, cameras, complex games iBook / Macbook Air 3
- audio + video + text, large touchscreen, cameras, phone, complex games iPad 3+ / iPad HD+
- audio + video + text, large touchscreen, cameras, complex games iPad 3 / iPad HD
- audio + video + text, big touchscreen, cameras, phone, complex games iPad 2s+ / iPad 3+
- audio + video + text, big touchscreen, cameras, complex games iPad 2s / iPad 3
- audio + video (+ text), detailed touchscreen, cameras, phone, complex games iPhone 5 (4", current device size)
- audio + video (+ text), detailed small touchscreen, cameras, phone, complex games iPhone 5 nano (3.5", smaller device size)
- audio + video, normal touchscreen, cameras, phone, complex games iPhone 4s
- audio + video, normal touchscreen, camera, phone, simple games iPhone classic
- audio + video (+ text), detailed touchscreen, cameras, complex games iPod (touch) 5
- audio + video, normal touchscreen, simple games iPod (touch) 4s
- audio + video, normal screen iPod classic
- audio, small touchscreen iPod nano
- audio, no screen iPod shuffle
The phone doesn't have to be physically different to be different. Really guys, learn to look deeper than the surface.
Is it possible that we will get the iPhone 4S / 5 with very little changes in October.
And then we may see a much 'sooner' refresh to the iPhone 5/6 in Spring 2012 alongside the iPad 2 with the A6?
After all they have already broken the 12 month refresh cycles at this point anyway.
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Also...
I would have thought with the introduction of Notifications, always on twitter integration and possibility of some form of widgets info inside the notification area - that upgrading the ram from 512 - 1GB would be more advantageous to IOS 5 than an A5 processor. ????
Sadly...
I won't be upgrading to the next iPhone if the only changes are 3 extra mega pixels and an A5 processor, and as my contract is nearly up (November) I'll probably look elsewhere until a proper refresh (with a bigger screen) is on the horizon.
And then we may see a much 'sooner' refresh to the iPhone 5/6 in Spring 2012 alongside the iPad 2 with the A6?
After all they have already broken the 12 month refresh cycles at this point anyway.
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I would have thought with the introduction of Notifications, always on twitter integration and possibility of some form of widgets info inside the notification area - that upgrading the ram from 512 - 1GB would be more advantageous to IOS 5 than an A5 processor. ????
Sadly...
I won't be upgrading to the next iPhone if the only changes are 3 extra mega pixels and an A5 processor, and as my contract is nearly up (November) I'll probably look elsewhere until a proper refresh (with a bigger screen) is on the horizon.
N94 is just the wolrd-mode version
Hi all...
It's pretty obvious that the N94 device is just a tweaking of the current iPhone 4 to make it world-mode compatible in a single device.
Both the CDMA and GSM versions of the iPhone 4 will cease to exist and be replaced by this single new iPhone 4 version. It remains to be seen if it will even get any upgrades at all otherwise.
There must be another device being developed in secret as the "next generation" iPhone - because the N94 does not appear to be it...
Hi all...
It's pretty obvious that the N94 device is just a tweaking of the current iPhone 4 to make it world-mode compatible in a single device.
Both the CDMA and GSM versions of the iPhone 4 will cease to exist and be replaced by this single new iPhone 4 version. It remains to be seen if it will even get any upgrades at all otherwise.
There must be another device being developed in secret as the "next generation" iPhone - because the N94 does not appear to be it...
The phone doesn't have to be physically different to be different. Really guys, learn to look deeper than the surface.
Yes it does nd I'm not talking a re design
Wh should people pay stupid money if the 4 is basically the same as the 5?
It needs. Bigger screen, better camera for starters for people to think it's worth it
I'd buy an iPhone 5 with a 3.5" screen same as the iPhone 4, with only a better A5 chip in it. No brainer really, the thing would basically have a longer lifespan at this point than an iPhone 4.
I don't give a crap about a camera (it's a phone, they all suck) or a case design. Sure I'd like a bigger screen, but that's a want, not a need thus it wouldn't impact my purchase decision.
Anyone that thinks that the iPhone 5, no matter what it will be, won't sell like hot cakes and will result in this massive exodus to Android is wrong. First, Android doesn't need this massive exodus, sales are booming, especially for Samsung models right now (as is evidenced by the success of the SGS II) and second, people stuck in the iOS eco-system (vendor locked-in ! ) won't switch to Android because of a few tech specs on a sheet. The A5 is about all that matters right now, enabling the push forward to richer/complex applications.
They won't go 2 years within the same iPhone generation (4th), so this scenario you propose cannot happen. They won't make the 6th iPhone the iPhone 5 nor will the 5th iPhone be called iPhone 4S. That's just silly. The 3GS was called 3GS because naming it the iPhone 3 would have made it sound less than its predecessor, the iPhone 3G.
Would you buy Hyundai Sonata with the innards of a BMW?The phone doesn't have to be physically different to be different. Really guys, learn to look deeper than the surface.
Would you buy Hyundai Sonata with the innards of a BMW?
Actually no, I like a little reliability in my cars. Would I buy a Hyundai Sonata with the innards of a Subaru ? Yes. Cheap Hyundai 0% financing, low initial cost, decent looks (the new Sonata is quite a decent design) and the innards of one of the most advanced Japanese manufacturer today, with a Turbo H4 engine and symetrical AWD with simulated limited slip ? Awesome. I wish Subaru did the Hyundai pricing on their offerings. I wouldn't have had to sell the WRX to buy my Harley-Davidson.
But really, are you calling the iPhone 4 a Hyundai ? Is that what I should understand from your post ?
Car analogies don't work in this discussion. Car manufacturers only refresh the look of their models once every 5-6 years. A 2011 iPhone is still a 2011 iPhone even if it looks like the 2010 iPhone.
But if you had an iPhone 4, and you were offered an upgrade to an iPhone 5 from your carrier signing up for another 18 months / 24 months - there is very little incentive in just an A5 processor.
The iPhone 4 out paces the 3GS by a strong margin, and nothing at the moment is holding it back speed wise - it competes still strongly in performance with both the SGS2 and the HTC Sensation in every day use.
So an A5 processor for existing iPhone 4 users on it's own offers very little incentive - it needs to be a combination of factors to get people to renew their contracts and a bump in the camera and processor bump are not enough justification for many.
Remember a lot of carriers worldwide do 12 - 18 month contracts, so many potential iPhone 5 customers are already on iPhone 4. Alongside the fact most carrier offer early upgrade options to folks after the initial hullabaloo of new product launch has wained.
forget the name - even if the next is iPhone 5 - there is still the possibility of an iPhone 6 in spring with A6. You can not categorically say there won't be as unless you are the son of Nostradamus - your ability to predict the future is just as much hearsay as everyone else's.
Personally in my opinion only if your not currently on an iPhone 4 - and your carrier is offering you a good upgrade pricing subsidy from a 3GS or other handset.
I don't own an iPhone 4, there wasn't enough incentive to upgrade my 3GS which shares the same SoC architecture with the iPhone 4 (thus the reason it runs iOS 5 just as well as a 4 and has better FPS in games thanks to lower native resolution).
The arguments you're bringing up are the same ones the 3G folk were saying about the 3GS (never mind that they were ignoring all the other goodies the 3GS was getting on top of the better SoC) and yet they felt quite silly the day that their phones could hardly run iOS 4. Meanwhile, the 3GS has had a much longer lifespan than the 3G since it will be able to run it's 3rd iOS revision with the full feature set at acceptable speeds.
So yes, again, iPhone 4 with A5 as the iPhone 5 ? No brainer, it will sell like hotcakes. And if you think that's all Apple is going to do, you're dead wrong anyhow. The iPhone 3GS is a perfect example of why a major revamp can be made in the same case design as the prior generation. The 3GS was a huge leap forward over the 3G.
To me ? Yes. Of course, I'll also be getting a "Retina" display, a LED flash for my camera, facetime, the Wifi Hotspot instead of just the BT/USB version and a few other features, plus whatever else is new with the iPhone 5 over the iPhone 4.
Remember, not all of us are upgrade fanatics. For me, the iPhone 4 wasn't worth it. A couple of mhz more with a decrease in gaming performance because of the 4 times higher pixel count. My 3GS was a no brainer last year, an A5 equipped iPhone is a no brainer this year.
I'm considering buying it unlocked myself and not renewing my carrier's contract commitment.
THAT WAS MY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!
If you had an iPhone 4 would you upgrade ???? NO because of the same reasons you said you didn't upgrade from a 3GS - iPhone 4...
<Bangs head against wall>
Oh and the iPhone 4 had far more upgrades than just processor bump, new design, retina display, improved camera, improved battery, improved memory....
The iPhone 5 if these rumors hold any truth offers just processor and camera upgrade. No way near as much as the 3gs - 4 transition...