Apple Sending iOS 5 to iPhone Assemblers at End of September, No Sign of Redesigned iPhone 5

[MacSince1990]

It isn't 1997. I like my products to be competitive with other hardware on the market. I'm willing to pay a premium for Apple's OS and build quality, but I'll not pay a premium for an inferior product.

Um. 1997?

In 1997 Apple's computer blew everything else out there out of the water. You could buy a 350 MHz 604ev Power Macintosh 9600/350 with six PCI slots, three optical bays, and three HDD bays, with 12 RAM slots for up to 1.5 GB of RAM (that's pretty much the equivalent of 192 GB RAM today..); later in 1997 you could purchase a 300 MHz G3 which ate Pentium IIs for breakfast.

 

[MacinDoc]

Um. 1997?

In 1997 Apple's computer blew everything else out there out of the water. You could buy a 350 MHz 604ev Power Macintosh 9600/350 with six PCI slots, three optical bays, and three HDD bays, with 12 RAM slots for up to 1.5 GB of RAM (that's pretty much the equivalent of 192 GB RAM today..); later in 1997 you could purchase a 300 MHz G3 which ate Pentium IIs for breakfast.

Yes, those were the days. I remember when the Power Mac was the first desktop that met the definition of a "supercomputer", and as a result, couldn't be sold in Russia.

Of course, back then, although Apple products had superior specs to the competition, it didn't look like it on paper, because Apple was using the PowerPC hardware and trying to dispel the "MHz Myth" by saying that PowerPC chips outperformed Pentium chips with much higher clock rates.

Now if Apple came out with an A6 powered iPhone this year, that would be comparable with how it was back then. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.

 

[Windmill360]

And with all of Apple's insane security - the Sprint guy would know. Right!

Of course. The reason theres been so many conflicting reports is because there are two phones. It all makes sense now. Some witnesses are seeing the 4S and some are seeing the 5.

 

[MacSince1990]

Okay, I have it on good authority from both Zeus and Thor that the iPhone specs will be thus:

4.2" 1920x1280 display
Custom A5+ IC; Tri-core 1.6 GHz (32nm process w/3D gate technology)
768 MB DDR3-1667 Memory
32/64 GB NAND storage, and also, a mini tiny 1 TB depleted Uranium-based HDD
8.2 MP Front camera w/2160P video recording
5 MP rear camera
Radeon 6650UM (Ultra Mobility) 256 MB GDDR4
And a little gnome that comes out and cleans off the display once in a while, along with giving you life advice.
4G and secret 5G capability.

 

[mubo]

Um. 1997?

In 1997 Apple's computer blew everything else out there out of the water. You could buy a 350 MHz 604ev Power Macintosh 9600/350 with six PCI slots, three optical bays, and three HDD bays, with 12 RAM slots for up to 1.5 GB of RAM (that's pretty much the equivalent of 192 GB RAM today..); later in 1997 you could purchase a 300 MHz G3 which ate Pentium IIs for breakfast.

Like the 3.5 floppies which macs left out, future. Like now with the Cloud, it will work if Apple is behind refining it to be the next thing, as sony/phillips did with cd's.

The only thing which lets Apples future plans down is the networks, Apple iSat, ohh i should patent that ... or have they?

 

[redraider133]

Sorry, but it's already been CONFIRMED that this is false.



This is definitely believable though. I'm cool with an iPhone 4 with an LTE chip shoved into it alongside an A5.

By who? The troll that said about all those fake specs? Come on it has yet to be confirmed true or false.

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The next iPhone is all about taking advantage of key new technologies in the iOS platform. Current generation iPhone models will really struggle to deliver the perfect experience most of us Apple device consumers demand, once iOS 5 launches. But the new iPhone will have incredible processing power and blazing-fast RAM to deliver an awesome mobile experience. It will be so much better than every iPhone model before it, and will of course completely destroy every Android and Windows Phone on the market. So I for one cannot wait to get my hands on one of these bad boys. I'd urge everyone else to upgrade too.

Uum those with beta IOS5 versions it runs pretty smoothly on the i4 so no the new iphone if all they do is add dual core and more ram it isn't going to be that much better than the i4. Only a fool would waste an upgrade from the i4 to that. Even the 3gs runs ios 5 pretty well.

 

[KnightWRX]

Point is, they have the best products

Highly subjective opinion.

 

[redraider133]

Several thoughts:

1. As other posters have said, I can't imagine why it would take Apple 16 months just to speedbump a processor. Likewise, I can't imagine why they'd wait 16 months just for iOS 5.
2. There may be a 4S, but if there's a 5 (which there likely is), Apple is probably keeping it as secret as possible until launch. The competition is fierce.
3. I just want to ditch my paperweight iPhone 3G ASAP.

Agree maybe they intentionally are letting more leaks of the 4s so that when they do unveil the i5 it will really wow people. Well I hope that is the case anyway.

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Probably the A5 chip, a dual-core processor with the enhanced graphics that the iPad 2 has.

Most likely HSPA+ cellular data. Maybe some battery performance improvements.

Thus, the three improvements that would benefit Joe Consumer the most.

I think the average Joe consumer only cares if the phone works. It is those phone geeks who care about dual core, 4g all that mumbo jumbo. The average consumer has no idea what is better for a dual core vs single core etc.

 

[KnightWRX]

I think the average Joe consumer only cares if the phone works. It is those phone geeks who care about dual core, 4g all that mumbo jumbo. The average consumer has no idea what is better for a dual core vs single core etc.

Carriers around here are advertising the "Superphones" with "dual cores" for "better multi-tasking". Seems the average joe does want bigger and better. I really doubt they'd spend thousands on advertising targeted at a niche.

 

[redraider133]

I, Like many people, dont have access to IOS 5. We know it's out there, but not yet released.

Apple had sent out 7 / 8 betas of iSO 5… it’s usually not that many.

Why the Delay?

Usually they send out around 8-10 betas. This year they sent out 7 so far.

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Carriers around here are advertising the "Superphones" with "dual cores" for "better multi-tasking". Seems the average joe does want bigger and better. I really doubt they'd spend thousands on advertising targeted at a niche.

Yes advertising that but give a person a dual core phone and a single core and most would not be able to tell the difference until you told them one had a dual core.

 

[murdercitydevil]

I think the average Joe consumer only cares if the phone works. It is those phone geeks who care about dual core, 4g all that mumbo jumbo. The average consumer has no idea what is better for a dual core vs single core etc.

Yeah right, people see a higher number or dual vs single and they instantly assume it's better. It doesn't matter what it actually means, they just want "more GBs"

 

[435713]

I'd be really curious if I was Apple, to release the EXACT same phone and call it the iPhone 5 and see how many still camp out for it. You have to wonder.

 

[HERO XXL]

The phone can come out whenever it wants at this point--I have plenty of other things to keep me busy 'til then.
Y'know what I'd REALLY like though?
After it's announced & in stores, I'd LOVE to hear the ACTUAL reasons for the delay. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[captain kaos]

Well, after all the waiting i might just go out an buy a ip4, they still walk over the competition, and i still like the design of the 4, which is why apple may still keep the design on the new one.

 

[nunes013]

There is not a snowball chance in hell Apple will simply tack on more RAM and the A5 to the iPhone 4 and call it a day.

No way.

You don't take 16 months to release a speed bump. And you certainly don't take 16 months to release a device that looks exactly the same as its predecessor - to regular people, it'll just be another iPhone 4. There's no visual cue to indicate anything's changed.

just what i was thinking. along with everyone else who said it. i just couldn't multipost that many

i can't see apple waiting 16 months for A5 which was ready probably last december, more RAM, a better camera and a new antenna with HSPA+. there is no way. that might be the 4S the guy saw but if thats the 5 i will be very disappointed in Apple especially when people are releasing thinner and more powerful phones. if this is apples 5 then they will get blown out of the water waiting until next June or Sept for another launch. the 4 was good but won't stand another year. the stock will plummet. also i don't think apple will stand for people breaking their thinest phone record

 

[captain kaos]

There is not a snowball chance in hell Apple will simply tack on more RAM and the A5 to the iPhone 4 and call it a day.

No way.

You don't take 16 months to release a speed bump. And you certainly don't take 16 months to release a device that looks exactly the same as its predecessor - to regular people, it'll just be another iPhone 4. There's no visual cue to indicate anything's changed.

I disagree, in that you have to look at what else they've been up to, i.e, ios5. I know ip4 owners that are more excited about running ios5 on their ip4's than having the new phone (and they aren't tied to a contract). I think when you look at a A5 chip, more RAM within a design that still looks great today all running new os, it will walk over anything thats out at the moment. Wasn't the 4 cpu clock speed running at 800mhz, and that still was still better that a samsung s2, mainly due to good OS, and the new OS will be even better.

 

[cdmoore74]

I'm a Android fanboy first but I was hoping that iPhone 5 knocks it out the park. I want a good battle and a iPhone 4S would be a huge let down for me. A 3.5 inch display does not cut it.

 

[19101984]

a new phone should look like a new phone. just sayin'

 

[MacSince1990]

Like the 3.5 floppies which macs left out, future.

Um. You mean the floppies which the 1998 iMac left out. Which was, by the way, the iMac's (and bondi-blue, non-beige)'s introduction to the world. Also, there was an immediately-available "SuperDrive" 120 MB floppy external USB device for it.

I remember at the time thinking it was about time. I was 11, and I saw no use for a floppy disk.. it was too small to be useful in any way, and besides, I was using Zip Disks on my $3000 Beige G3 anyway.

The PC world needed them. They were bootable and could enable BIOS flashes. OpenFirmware never needed such things. Please don'tconfuse the eschewing of needless hardware for innovation.

Like now with the Cloud, it will work if Apple is behind refining it to be the next thing, as sony/phillips did with cd's.

All storage is fallible. I liike access to my data whenever and wherever I am. Some of it's rather personal. Some of it I don't want stored in the clouds. CDs, by the way, far predate Apple's abandonment of the floppy disk.

The only thing which lets Apples future plans down is the networks, Apple iSat, ohh i should patent that ... or have they?

Are you autistic?

 

[840quadra]

Just curious:

If you've already got an iPhone 4 with which you are currently satisfied, why exactly do you need to be in the market for a second sub-tablet-form-factor iOS device (aka iPod touch)?

Because I use them differently. The Touch comes with larger storage space, was thinner and lighter, and it gets a lot more abuse than my phone. I can get along fine if my iPod gets damaged at a motorsport event I am shooting (I am a Motocross Photographer), but not so well if my Phone is down and out.

But you have to admit that in part, the phone market is fashion. (And not just technical specifications). And the most visible way of showing a new purchase is an all-new case design. Apple understands this.

I'd buy the idea of a speed-bump-only after a 12month cycle. But 16 months is a bit too long.

C.

I have to agree with with this. A huge piece of Apple, their self image, and their marketing, is their industrial design.

Obviously liking the design is a personal preference. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

A capacitative button like is used on other handsets/the PS3 ?

I agree.

Apple has experience with this, with the 3rd generation iPod. In some ways the first iPod Touch, as it had zero buttons, just capacitive touch points, and a hold switch.

 

[Grandpa1947]

Makes sense to me

I was wanting a 4" screen, 64 GB, iPhone 5, but that is not happening.

The iPhone 5 is an upgraded iPhone 4 with the A5 chip, hence the iPhone 5.

The iPhone 6 will have the bigger screen and the A6 chip, hence the iPhone 6

Since the A6 chip is not out yet, the iPhone 6 won't be out until later next year.

It is all fitting together now.

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Well, after all the waiting i might just go out an buy a ip4, they still walk over the competition, and i still like the design of the 4, which is why apple may still keep the design on the new one.

At least the 5 will fix the antennae problem....hopefully

 

[BlindMellon]

I'd be really curious if I was Apple, to release the EXACT same phone and call it the iPhone 5 and see how many still camp out for it. You have to wonder.

Looks like we're gonna get to find out.

 

[sikmen11]

i got the 3g ipod touch. i don't wanna get another bloody speed bump touch.

 

[captain kaos]

I think the only redesign will be the antenna, possibly the glass back, but otherwise it'll look like the iphone 4 with the speed bumps. Id be happy with that, although im coming back to the iphone from BB, so id be happy with an iphone 4!!

 

[knck out]

Lolwut? a faster processor and MAYBE more MP's in the camera

there producing 30 million units for this?

its only been 16 months since the ip4 launch and 90% of the people that bought one signed a 24 month contract

so if there planning on selling 30 million units there has to be SIGNIFICANT updates/upgrades, quite obvious really....