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comment threads on posts like this will never not be hilarious bc you can tell from 10 miles away who owns AAPL and who doesn’t

genuinely hope that Apple Intelligence matures properly, been fascinating watching beta testing (I know someone who’s on the beta with a 15PM; god those text summaries are hilarious) and it’ll be a boon to the company if it’s successful, for all the naysaying AI gets in this forum—watching gradual adoption of casual ChatGPT use hasn’t been far off from the evolution of “what the **** you bought a watch from Apple?” into every other person having an AW on their wrist in 2024 lmao
 
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.. The lack of strong competition is making Apple lazy..

.. And while they are good at making money the lack of incentive to deliver what customers want created an umbrella/space for competitors to thrive..

.. It is a certainty there are over 2 billion people out there that have no inner monologue and zero agency - the type that can't visualize a rotating, red Apple in their mind. These are the kind of customers Apple wants because no matter what happens they stick with the company. It's not a pretty picture but it's realistic and I want this as a shareholder..
Which is it: lack of competition or thriving competition? loyal customers or clueless customers?

The company delivers record revenues quarter over quarter driven by product and services growth to new and existing customers, operates at billions of units scale, maintains enviable CSAT while doing so and receives good analyst ratings as a result of the above.

It’s hard to follow the logic for the over the top cynicism regarding Apple and the extraordinarily disparaging view of Apple customers in general.
 
comment threads on posts like this will never not be hilarious bc you can tell from 10 miles away who owns AAPL and who doesn’t

genuinely hope that Apple Intelligence matures properly, been fascinating watching beta testing (I know someone who’s on the beta with a 15PM; god those text summaries are hilarious) and it’ll be a boon to the company if it’s successful, for all the naysaying AI gets in this forum—watching gradual adoption of casual ChatGPT use hasn’t been far off from the evolution of “what the **** you bought a watch from Apple?” into every other person having an AW on their wrist in 2024 lmao

Very true.
 
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Are you saying the overwhelming majority of happy and repeat Apple customers are stupid, don't care about quality, and willingly purchase Apple products that fall apart; year after year after year?

I guess that secret of success should be adopted by other tech companies so they too can also hit 4 Tillion dollar valuations.

Exactly. More like if Coach put an extra button on their most popular bag that people weren’t sure what to do with, but keep buying the bags anyway
 
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comment threads on posts like this will never not be hilarious bc you can tell from 10 miles away who owns AAPL and who doesn’t

genuinely hope that Apple Intelligence matures properly, been fascinating watching beta testing (I know someone who’s on the beta with a 15PM; god those text summaries are hilarious) and it’ll be a boon to the company if it’s successful, for all the naysaying AI gets in this forum—watching gradual adoption of casual ChatGPT use hasn’t been far off from the evolution of “what the **** you bought a watch from Apple?” into every other person having an AW on their wrist in 2024 lmao
As a shareholder I want Apple to deliver on AI but I think they lack the institutional constitution to do what is necessary which is why I support changing of the guard. Their privacy stance is getting in the way of my money
 
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As a shareholder I want Apple to deliver on AI but I think they lack the institutional constitution to do what is necessary which is why I support changing of the guard. Their privacy stance is getting in the way of my money
As a shareholder, customer, observer I want apple to do it right. I’ll sacrifice short term for longer term gain in that vein.
 
As a shareholder, customer, observer I want apple to do it right. I’ll sacrifice short term for longer term gain in that vein.
I'd love for some of the old guard to be shown the door. I do not believe their position is sustainable within their current limitations and it will result in Apple being an also-ran with AI like they were with Siri (which still sucks btw, I had to turn it back off. The betas seem to disappoint in imaginative new ways)
 
Shareholder here (personal investments plus 401k). I could not care less about Apple's market cap.

Additionally, they could use this extra money to pay dividends instead of stock-buybacks.

If you want dividends, buy IBM.
 
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Definite bummer in hindsight.

I bought a wee bit earlier than that date. Got to retire younger than many and have been traveling the world for several years. Very very lucky to say the least.

I hope they up the dividends a bit more than they did the past two years, but I'm not arguing with the overall growth the past five years since I retired. 😀

Go $AAPL
20-Jan-2009 is the tail-end iPod-era 20Y low price.

Stock price was pushed down by the 2008 Financial Crisis.
 
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This is by definition a good example of what’s wrong in this world. A small group of greedy people are getting very rich while plundering resources and behaving monopolistic.

While that is true of the world in general, it isn't true of Apple. Apple is a publicly traded company. About 60% of the company is held by over 7000 institutional investors, many of which are mutual funds held by individuals and retirement funds. The remaining almost 40% is owned by retail investors. Company insiders (executives and board members) hold a little over one tenth of one percent of the shares.
 
I'd love for some of the old guard to be shown the door. I do not believe their position is sustainable within their current limitations and it will result in Apple being an also-ran with AI like they were with Siri (which still sucks btw, I had to turn it back off. The betas seem to disappoint in imaginative new ways)

Won't happen. Cook is Apple's Ballmer.
 
Exactly my point. Apple is about the marriage of software and hardware. At present the software is letting the hardware down (one only needs to look to the Mac and iPad for evidence of this). If you're new to the brand it's gotta be amazing. Those of us that have been with Apple since the late 90s see the slow but steady decline.

There might be a slight increase in bugginess, but if you factor in the MASSIVE amount of new capabilities, the ratio is tiny! Just compare an iPhone or Mac of 15 years ago to see this.

Apple has done a stellar job at maintaining a clean, consistent and trustworthy user experience for both hardware and software. Not perfect, but the latest versions are outstanding in quality.

What am I missing?
 
Market studies, loads of them bear out people do not use agency when buying. Simple as. You can't and won't switch to another brand you'd never be able to decoupled yourself from Apple's service offerings. Prove me wrong- you cant
Uh oh can’t prove yourself right, either. Care to cite these “market studies”. Any of them credible?
 
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