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I'm pretty sure that has to do with some investors buying because the price tanked. With the Fed rate hike pre-announcement I'm not sure AAPL or other stocks won't dive again soon. I'm holding off for a bit.
The majority of trades in the "markets" these days are made by machines, not humans. Of course in-duh-vidual investors tippy-tapping on keyboards are welcome to play anytime...
 
TERRIBLE buying opportunity. The stock market has just begun a huge correction, you won't be seeing rebounds for a very long time.

depends on your time frame. short term, APPL is a good buy because there are often rallies and short-term bounces in market corrections, and this crazy early-session selloff is already rebounding. a lot of traders are pumping and dumping in the short term and making a fortune.

medium term, might be a bad buy

long term, definitely a good buy.
 
Yes, China may be in or entering a recession. During a recession, China may buy less iPhones then if there wasn't a recession. But considering the massive growth in sales in the last year, would sales actually go down? Or are we just going to expect slower increase? I could believe slower increases in sales. But I can't imagine that Apple will actually sell less iPhones in China in 2016 than it did in 2014.
 
I guess you haven't looked at bond yields or the price of oil, copper, coal, etc. The U.S. economy is in recession, they just haven't announced it officially. We're in for a worldwide deflationary reset. Apple will survive, but a lot of companies in the hallowed Silly-Con Valley will disappear.

I am not sure you understand what is a recession. You need two consecutive quarters of negative growth before it can be called a recession, and the US is currently growing at more than 2% annually.

However, if you are one of those who say goverment figures are bs, then well all the power to you.
 
Yes, China may be in or entering a recession. During a recession, China may buy less iPhones then if there wasn't a recession. But considering the massive growth in sales in the last year, would sales actually go down? Or are we just going to expect slower increase? I could believe slower increases in sales. But I can't imagine that Apple will actually sell less iPhones in China in 2016 than it did in 2014.

China is not in a recession nor will enter a recession, still growing at 6+ %, the only thing is their growth is slowing from the highs of 10+ %.
 
I hope the economy completely tanks, for good reason too.

For starters, you have banks like Citi, Chase, BoA, etc, that are all greedy and made stupid lending choices that helped lead to the economic crisis in the first place. In addition to that, their ridiculous fees, pretty much take away from the middle class and poor while giving it to the greedy investors also doesn't do well for the economy either. ON TOP OF THAT, people can't dig their way out of credit card debt because of their high interest rates on their credit cards. How are people supposed to stimulate the economy if they're paying every penny towards their credit card debt rather than putting it in a savings account? Oh and that's the other thing about these banks... Nobody wants to put their money in a savings account if it's paying 0.001% back in interest, below the inflation rate. Give me a break. These banks need to collapse before the economy can get better.

Community banks and solely having charge cards instead of having credit cards for consumers would be much better for the economy. Charge cards get paid off monthly, accrue no interest, and provide benefits to those who use them. Community banks (or credit unions) are not-for-profit organizations that have lower fees, or no fees for services. If the big banks collapse, most people's credit card debt is eliminated, they pay less in fees to a bunch of crooks every year, and hopefully the trend will result in an improving economy. People will pay less in interest for housing, have a better chance of getting a loan, and will be able to stimulate the economy by putting that money elsewhere.

Want the economy to thrive? Get rid of the big banks. Let them fail.
 
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Agree wholeheartedly, anyone who thinks this is about an iPhone is deluded.
Much much bigger things in play and it is going to take a few weeks to play out and we will see just how far things go.

The U.S. Economy isn't ’that’ bad, but it is the knock on affect from China which is going to drag everything down into a very deep hole.

As for AAPL, I am looking to buy back in at around 30bucks, possibly lower..

Hope I am wrong, but I don't think I am.
I got out at the open last Friday at 110, and count myself lucky. Wouldn't want to be holding now..


You bought a used pink iPhone 5c last month and now you're giving investment advice?
 
I hope the economy completely tanks, for good reason too.

For starters, you have banks like Citi, Chase, BoA, etc, that are all greedy and made stupid lending choices that helped lead to the economic crisis in the first place. In addition to that, their ridiculous fees, pretty much take away from the middle class and poor while giving it to the greedy investors also doesn't do well for the economy either. ON TOP OF THAT, people can't dig their way out of credit card debt because of their high interest rates on their credit cards. How are people supposed to stimulate the economy if they're paying every penny towards their credit card debt rather than putting it in a savings account? Oh and that's the other thing about these banks... Nobody wants to put their money in a savings account if it's paying 0.001% back in interest, below the inflation rate. Give me a break. These banks need to collapse before the economy can get better.

Community banks and solely having charge cards instead of having credit cards for consumers would be much better for the economy. Charge cards get paid off monthly, accrue no interest, and provide benefits to those who use them. Community banks (or credit unions) are not-for-profit organizations that have lower fees, or no fees for services. If the big banks collapse, most people's credit card debt is eliminated, they pay less in fees to a bunch of crooks every year, and hopefully the trend will result in an improving economy. People will pay less in interest for housing, have a better chance of getting a loan, and will be able to stimulate the economy by putting that money elsewhere.

Want the economy to thrive? Get rid of the big banks. Let them fail.
You want the economy to completely tank? That's millions and millions of people losing their jobs. All to get mad at banks? Maybe re-think your logic because you just hoped that 50% of the people reading this will lose their job so you will be happy at big banks.
 
Just out of interest, can I ask what kind of return you are anticipating?
What do you think the stock price will be say, two months from now?

I mean if you think it is going to be higher then you are correct to buy.
Personally, I don't think 100 bucks or whatever is cheap for this market.
I would rather be wrong and miss out on some gains than be wrong and lose my hat.
Each to his/her own though, I wish you luck!
P/E of 16:1 is just a number I picked after looking at high technology since I was in that field, back in 1990. I don't do day trading (anymore), so buy and hold is my path.

Two months from now, I think the price will be close to $130 ish, as things calm down. The downturn in the stock price, I think is based on the fear part of the fear and greed mantra.

As for those looking to buy in the $30 range, that would require some serious changes on the output of Apple, including having the value of the company have a market cap at $200B, and with $140B in the bank, that's a pretty ripe takeover target. Ok, I'm babbling now...

Anyhow, I'm still bullish on AAPL. I think it's a steal right now, but it might be a bigger steal before it gets better.
 
You want the economy to completely tank? That's millions and millions of people losing their jobs. All to get mad at banks? Maybe re-think your logic because you just hoped that 50% of the people reading this will lose their job so you will be happy at big banks.

You do realize the banks is what caused this right?

If I racked up $50,000 in credit card debt, I don't get a bailout without punishment.

The economy needs a huge reset, and it starts with the big banks collapsing. They're too big and are getting bigger.
 
Just out of interest, can I ask what kind of return you are anticipating?
What do you think the stock price will be say, two months from now?

I mean if you think it is going to be higher then you are correct to buy.
Personally, I don't think 100 bucks or whatever is cheap for this market.
I would rather be wrong and miss out on some gains than be wrong and lose my hat.
Each to his/her own though, I wish you luck!
Oh yeah, I'm way long on AAPL, like retirement in 25 years long, and I wish you luck as well!

As an aside, a friend of mine and I, when these massive swings take place, we IM each other, "weeeeeeeee!"
 
This is still a bull market. A correction was coming and it's normal to have them. The US isn't in a recession. It's amazing how many say a correction is overdue and write about it all the time. And then when it does comes along, they start writing something else like it's the end of the world.

Today's selling is just panic people had the weekend to mull over. The market has already bounced sharply up from the morning lows. IMO, that was the floor (and the best time to buy back in). I expect the rest of the week will see some sharp increases. And wait til the Fed jumps in as they always do.
I'm still trying to figure why the AAPL price drop is a "correction". If anything, for it to be correct, it'd be at $140.

(Yeah, I know what a correction is, but it's a misnomer)
 
Shares are well over priced, they have been for a while.
Get out now before the AW and music results come out and they hit the low 70s..
 
There's a lot of knee jerk responses in this thread.

However it does make it easy to identify those who have no clue what the markets all about.

Adding fuel to the fire are those who have more money than sense. They invest In Apple with rose colored glasses, only to change their mind when they fail to experience the gains they expected in far too short of a time period.

Then they proclaim the market as evil.

History is a word and another subject they have no clue about.

Tis a shame...
 
That's an easy one. As soon as the feds step in and say "we need price controls" to prevent food prices from rising, there will be shortages. Look at what happened following the wage and price controls of the Nixon administration.

All of the pension, insurance and other benefits that are running US companies into the ground came about when Truman froze wages following WWII. Companies couldn't offer higher pay to attract top talent, so they came up with benefit packages. When the wage controls were lifted, were they going to take those things away from the already-hired talent? Nope.

See, the government has been causing distortion with their interventions for decades. We have no idea what things should really cost, in any market, because the feds step in with regulations and/or liquidity, distorting the market and its natural feedback mechanisms. The housing market was fattened by easy credit. The auto market is affected by this as well. The stock market boom following the housing bubble is from major banks taking their QE money and splashing it over stocks, instead of holding it or lending it out.

One other poster mentioned that the US has become uneducated regarding its own financial system. I say it goes deeper than that, and that they are actually completely oblivious to the effects of government. I would start them reading Bastiat (Broken Window Fallacy).

We already have price controls but the govt calls them "subsidies." Capitalism does NOT work without govt giveaways from tax breaks to rebates to writing laws that block competition (how many choices do you have for electric/internet?) I don't think enough people understand just how much Wall Street needs the govt to keep the playing field slanted in their favor. Apple is no different. They use US tax laws to protect profits.
 
You do realize the banks is what caused this right?

If I racked up $50,000 in credit card debt, I don't get a bailout without punishment.

The economy needs a huge reset, and it starts with the big banks collapsing. They're too big and are getting bigger.
Of course you are obviously wrong. Banks are simply franchises of the Federal Reserve. They are required to follow liquidity and lending requirements very proscribed on them. Therefore the problem we had with them was the federal rules governing them, not the managers and employees and the business itself.

Lending standards in 2007 were such that if you could breathe you could get a loan. By 2010 when prices and rates were awesome, lending standards were nearly impossible to meet. That desperately hurt people and favored corporations who snapped up for all cash tens of thousands of foreclosed homes.

Why didn't POTUS fix that since his regulators were the ones making those decisions? I am curious.

You have misdirected rage.

Rocketman

An even better question is why doesn't he just fix that today while rates are still low? There is a reason, because the fix is dead easy.
 
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Ah... Stock price posts. Nothing more pointless than these.

It's down, no it's up, no it's down again! Omg!

Where's the update regarding the 3.3% drop it had today?
 
How do I determine what the current stock price equivalent would be before the split? Does someone have a number I can multiply the current stock price by? I would assume it would be that easy right?
 
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