Apple Shares Full First Episode of Sci-Fi Show 'Silo' on Twitter

[sidewinder3000]

I liked the show. 6/10. The production design is fantastic, and the performance by Rebecca Ferguson is a knockout. The tension building is good and they keep things moving. My two wishes: better dialogue and more subtle character building.

The dialogue is usually too on the nose. With characters saying exactly what they mean. Also, nobody really talks with their own voice. I’d love if there was some more interesting banter, more flavor, even some occasional humor, and less slavish devotion to forwarding the plot.

I’d also like the characters to be a little more lived in, with some more individual quirks and eccentricities. Living in a silo underground all on top of each other must lead to some really interesting ways to kill boredom and cope with such closed quarters.

 

[sidewinder3000]

I thought Apple basically pulled out of Twitter? YouTube would seem a more logical place with maybe links from several social media sites.

What would make you think they pulled out of Twitter? In fact, they are one of the highest profile companies who stayed on Twitter.

 

[sjperformance]

Looking forward to season finale this upcoming Friday. I have so many theories and what not.

 

[sidewinder3000]

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[sidewinder3000]

I see a lot of love for Silo here but I really lost interest as it’s nothing like the book it is based upon. Also they are stringing it out……….. ( yawn!! )

In what major ways is it different? I never read the book so I’m curious. (Please, no spoilers about anything that happens after Episode 9)

 

[sidewinder3000]

On an other note. Does anyone know anything about “Invasion” Series 2. When is it being released? It was getting good.

I really wanted to like that show, but I just felt like thematically, it was really heavy handed. Like the creators were trying to shove their point of you down the viewers, throat, instead of making the characters and action interesting and letting us draw our own conclusions.

But I haven’t talked with anyone about the show, so I’m curious what you liked about it or thought was “getting good”? I’m not interested in debating, just curious what you found compelling.

 

[sidewinder3000]

I can see Tim Cook in bed with his Vision Pro on, sparkling water and pop corn with his toes twinkling while binging on all these shows.

Wait, why are his toes twinkling?

 

[August West]

I'd seen the name of the series, Silo, several times but never realized it was based on the Wool series of books by Hugh Howey. Should have guessed from the name they were based on the Wool books but never bothered to look it up. I read the complete original series as they came out about 10 years ago. I'll definitely check this out since I loved the books.

 

[sidewinder3000]

It started out as a short story that then got expanded into 3 full-length novels.
The show looks like it's only going to get half way through the first novel in season 1 so get ready for a big cliffhanger.

The first episode was pretty straight, but later episodes have changed an awful lot of the detailed plot although they still seem to be heading in the same general direction.


Yes. that was cringeworthy - there's a "fixing the generator" scene in the book but it bears no resemblance to the show. However, there's a later bit in the book that will have anybody who knows even a smidgin about diving shouting at the page/screen.

Hey, how about writing SPOILER ALERT before revealing details that happen later in the books?

Not cool, bruv.

 

[hybrid_x]

Does anyone else think that Apple may have telegraphed technology similar to Apple Vision Pro in Episode 2? There's something that very strongly resembles EyeSight and an alternate immersive reality.

 

[Mr. Dee]

Wait, why are his toes twinkling?

He's warm and cozy with his blanky.

 

[MrWillie]

I see a lot of love for Silo here but I really lost interest as it’s nothing like the book it is based upon. Also they are stringing it out……….. ( yawn!! )

Yep, in the book the aren’t any f bombs.

I can’t stand the overuse of f bombs.

 

[theluggage]

Hey, how about writing SPOILER ALERT before revealing details that happen later in the books?

What!? Season that ends in the middle of a book might end on a cliffhanger? There's something to do with diving later in the books.? There's a bit about fixing a generator? Sorry if you disagree but I don't think that's unreasonable 3 pages in to a thread discussing the show and book. There's a worse spoiler (still not too bad) in the original article. I mean, if I let on that Darth Vader was Luke's father (made you look!) there might be something to complain about.

(Edit: Spoiler tags added after the fact. Sorry - I thought they were too vague to need hiding)

 

[k1121j]

Absolutely love this show.

 

[ackmondual]

Nice! I plan on resubbing to ATV+ for a few months sometime next year. Just waiting for new season of Central Park and Foundation to drop! (They already have See and Ted Lasso. IIRC, The Morning Show is still in the works?)

 

[Muzzakus]

Invasion? The worst Apple TV show by far and one of the worst shows I have ever seen. It was awful.

Yeah I know, terrible writing and production. That’s the only thing I recall about it

Edit: sorry mixed up the show

 

[pdaholic]

What!? Season that ends in the middle of a book might end on a cliffhanger? There's something to do with diving later in the books.? There's a bit about fixing a generator? Sorry if you disagree but I don't think that's unreasonable 3 pages in to a thread discussing the show and book. There's a worse spoiler (still not too bad) in the original article. I mean, if I let on that Darth Vader was Luke's father (made you look!) there might be something to complain about.

SPOILER ALERT!
I agree with the other poster, you did indeed list some spoilers. I'm now watching the show after reading this thread and your post, and I just watched the entire episode about fixing the generator. Now I'm expecting an entire episode on diving in the water. I'm not angry, just in the future, put a simple "spoiler alert" on your post.

 

[RALentz]

This Apple page lists the many non-Apple devices on which you can access AppleTV+ through an app. There is also tv.apple.com to watch on the web.

-Robert

 

[theluggage]

I agree with the other poster, you did indeed list some spoilers. I'm now watching the show after reading this thread

OK, rather than digging in further (not a spoiler!) I apologise. I've gone back and added spoiler tags to protect posterity (you might want to do likewise for your post that repeated them).

 

[pdaholic]

OK, rather than digging in further (not a spoiler!) I apologise. I've gone back and added spoiler tags to protect posterity (you might want to do likewise for your post that repeated them).

It’s all good. The show started off strong with intriguing sci-fi, but after 5 episodes, it feels like an extended version of CSI Miami. I feel like I’m just watching it now because I have to finish it!

 

[tongxinshe]

I love Foundation. It's a great series and I'm looking forward to the 2nd season. Silo is also great. Why do I like them? Because I refuse to read the books when I know they're going to be made into a movie or series. I go into them with zero expectations and then I'm not disappointed. I also don't turn around and then read the books afterwards. For the same reason.

On the flip side, if I've read a book, I won't watch any movie or series based on it. Not unless decades have passed since I read it. I read both LotR and Dune back in the 70s, so when they were adapted into movies by P Jackson and then Dune just 2 years ago, I loved them both. I didn't see the Dune in the 1980s. Also, I ABHOR people that do the lame "the book was better" or other nonsense. I notice that people that read a book before watching a movie or show just sit there with a scorecard or something. They just wait to see who plays which character so they can go "Oh, I didn't picture that person playing that character. Why did they make that one into a woman?" or whatever.

Just keep your scorecards to yourselves.

What you described has nothing to do with my comments against the AppleTV+ depiction of “Foundation”. My comments if fully based on the fact that neither the playwright nor the director understand the core spirit of the trilogy, not even to mention Isaac's other shorts prelude this ever-the-best Sci-Fi masterpiece.

 

[tongxinshe]

Clearly, there are different views on Foundation. I’ve just rewatched the first season in anticipation of season two coming next month. Thoroughly enjoyed it — again! I don’t care how different it is from the books (I read them in the ‘70s, so I don’t remember much at all, to be honest). I’m enjoying the series for what it is — engaging, visually interesting, well-acted, fantasy/sci-fi.
On an unrelated note. Tehran is my current favourite AppleTV+ series. I hope it runs and runs.

The biggest problem with this AppleTV+ “Foundation” show is that it TOTALLY missed the uniqueness of the original story, which was created by the Robots short series and the Foundation trilogy. It paints the background for almost ALL other Sci-Fi stories. This AppleTV+ depiction of “Foundation” didn’t even touch the slightest bit of that part, making it a full failure no matter how good it does in other aspects.

 

[theluggage]

The biggest problem with this AppleTV+ “Foundation” show is that it TOTALLY missed the uniqueness of the original story, which was created by the Robots short series and the Foundation trilogy.

One problem with the original Foundation trilogy - 'psychohistory' as a scientific, no-magic-involved source of prophecy - is that the basic premise has been rendered highly implausible by modern (popular) knowledge of chaos theory - basically, an infinitesimal change in starting conditions can change the outcome beyond recognition. Then there's the other problem that a faithful adaptation of Foundation would be about as exciting to watch as a 8-hour long version of the opening scroll of The Phantom Menace (which was almost certainly inspired by Foundation. Welcome to Coruscant - twinned with Trantor!) - good novel, maybe. Good radio play - possibly (the BBC audio adaptation is somewhere out there on the tubes).

The original Foundation trilogy (1942-50) had nothing to do with Asimov's robot stories - at this point anybody planning to read the books or watch season 1 of Foundation should avert their gaze:

Spoiler: You have been warned

The original trilogy started off as short stories in magazines and came out as a novel in the 1950s along with a few other novels like Pebble in the Sky set in the heyday of the Empire. The robot short stories, leading on to the Elijah Bailey novels were completely separate and no robots appeared in Foundation.

Then, in the 1980s, Asimov started writing new Elijah Bailey novels which developed the story into the pre-history for the Empire in foundation and prequels and sequels to Foundation which ret-conned some characters in Foundation as secretly being characters from the Elijah Bailey novels. Not an uncontroversial decision - as the way it is done completely changes the basis of the original Foundation story (but maybe provides an excuse for psychohistory being bunk) - but I guess they were Asimov's stories and he had the right to mess them up if he wanted.

I've seen it suggested that Apple only have the rights for the original Foundation series and can't use characters from the Robot series - which is so stupid that it's probably true. So while they have gone with the idea of certain characters being robots, they're really not the same character and the back-story of robots is completely different. It might have been better if they'd stuck with the origiunal un-retconned story but, oh dear, the trade federation are in dispute over tariffs and are threatening to blockade zzzzzzz........

I think the Elijah Bailey novels would have been a much better source for a show (easy pitch: detective show with robots - and, more importantly, not based on about 10 short stories set 100s of years apart with completely different casts)

 

[theluggage]

It’s all good. The show started off strong with intriguing sci-fi, but after 5 episodes, it feels like an extended version of CSI Miami. I feel like I’m just watching it now because I have to finish it!

Hollyweird have not learned how to pace long-form TV shows. Even The Expanse - definitely one of the better SF book-to-TV adaptations - had serious pacing problems. Mind you, back in the bad old days of 22-episode seasons there was always a lot of mid-season filler.

 

[whitby]

I see a lot of love for Silo here but I really lost interest as it’s nothing like the book it is based upon. Also they are stringing it out……….. ( yawn!! )

Agree completely. It moves much too slowly and the story is only loosely based on the first book. The book is much better paced and keeps the tension better as more is revealed. I presume they stretched it out so that they can add new seasons and not run out of storyline. i think it is trying to be thoughtful and atmospheric but this does not match well with what is basically a sci-fi mystery story.