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Although iPhone and maybe Pixel will benefit from this, I still think this debacle is a bummer. The Note 7 was a gorgeous piece of hardware. Flawed, of course, it was the first android phone in years that caught my attention and made me hesitate before getting another iPhone. Competition is good for all of us.

Taking off my competition is good hat, this also exposes some severe issues with Samsung management. The Note 7 was a disaster from beginning to catastrophic end. This has to hurt the Samsung brand and will likely have lasting impacts. Cautious, incremental Apple looks pretty good right now.
 
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As far as Samsung, I would discontinue the entire Note brand name.
From a marketing standpoint, the next 'Note', should be called something completely different.

For the time being I believe Samsung is preoccupied with fending off Amazon's trademark infringement suit ;)
 
I'm not a fanboy of either Apple or Samsung, but let's face it, the iPhone 7 is unimpressive...just another year with another version that has very few new features...and also a bunch of "features" like the missing headphone jack and the charging methodolgy that really annoy people. Samsung rushed out their phone to conicide with Apple's iPhone 7 launch and is now paying the price...Apple is winning back some customers because people (like me who own an iPhone 4S) are not going to buy the exploding Samsungs, yet really want a new phone, but wanted to try the Samsungs...so yes, I may actually go buy an iPhone 7 this winter. But my iPhone works just fine, thank you. I can wait a few more months for the dust to settle before plunking down hundreds of dollars for some kind of 128GB-size smartphone.

Just because the other guy utterly fails doesn't mean your product is actually wanted. It may be purchased out of necessity.
Seems like this post requires a big, IMO, because I have a different viewpoint of the iPhone 7 as does anandtech as maybe some other people do.
 
Google Pixel is set to benefit most from flawed Note 7 and iPhone 7. Number 7 turned out to be unlucky in 2016.
 
They're like the Donald Trump of cell phones, it took several toxic meltdowns before they realized it was over.
 
Yes, they will if they play their cards right. Samsung is household name now in more places because of the non-stop worldwide news coverage. And the media is all too eager to see a counterweight to Apple. Hence the crowning of the Note 7 as an innovative tour de force while the iPhone 7 is written off as a non-essential upgrade... never mind the fact that Apple's innovations (dual lens, improved taptic engine and a mobile processor that smokes the competition) will have a greater impact on everyday UX than anything the Note 7 has introduced.

With Samsung struggling, many in the media have been writing about the Pixel as the Android phone to beat and first true Google phone (really??), even though they should be writing it off as a rebranded, overpriced Nexus. It's quite amusing and AI has a great article on it: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...one-7-plus-but-it-lacks-numerous-key-features

Anyway, I have some money laying around and I think I might pick up some Samsung shares today.
Apple doesn't need the media IMO, as the brand has a strong following...like Samsung. I don't know what people read or not, but I make my mind up from the keynote.(which again most people don't look at) posters at MR essentially put everything under a microscope.
 
Google Pixel is set to benefit most from flawed Note 7 and iPhone 7. Number 7 turned out to be unlucky in 2016.
Please tell us why the iPhone 7 is flawed?
Pixel does not seem to be available in large quantity at the moment. IT is also only available from a restricted number of outlets (Carphone Wharehouse in the UK).
So far, I don't see it being able to take up the slack from the Note 7 let alone the supposedly flawed iPhone 7.
 
I wonder what the root cause of this is. It's not like lithium-ion batteries are new technology. Catastrophic failures of battery containment are pretty unusual. Even the old Powerbook batteries just swelled up. There doesn't seem to be any protrusions in the iFixit teardown, although they did note the battery area was ultra-fortified.

Maybe there's some kind of interference with the wireless charging circuit?

Maybe they had thermal problems due to the waterproofing?

Maybe making the battery compartment ultra-strong was a mistake, because if the battery did swell there was nowhere for it to go?

I hope someone eventually does a post-mortem on this.
 
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I think this will hurt the brand more than people realise. Normal people/consumers only sees the name Samsung when reading or hearing about burning phones, product names like Note 7 may not mean much to them. So when times comes to purchase a phone they will most likely choose something that is not an Samsung phone, for historic reasons.

The most important lesson to take away from this is to never rush things, or you may get burned :D
Yep. Just today one of my customers asked me, "Do you have a Samsung, because I heard on the news they are catching on fire". I explained to her that it was only one model but I still don't think she would ever get a Samsung. This will do a lot of damage.
 
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It's sad to think they might be celebrating, as Samsung pushed the market as much forward as Apple did. Without good competition the next models will lack innovations. That's how the market works.

I don't buy Samsung phones but to not want competition is quite sad. IMHO.

Well... if you're like me (and I know I am), the way I sense it is we're all celebrating justice & the karma smack-down deserved Samsung with its rank corporate values & slavish rip-off of Apple for almost a decade.

But agreed. I suppose markets are a bit like batteries, its negative side dependent on the positive side...

...but it's just sooo sweet finally seeing the negative side just melt-down & explode...

heh heh... (...better luck next year Samsung)
 
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I'm not a fanboy of either Apple or Samsung, but let's face it, the iPhone 7 is unimpressive...just another year with another version that has very few new features...and also a bunch of "features" like the missing headphone jack and the charging methodolgy that really annoy people. Samsung rushed out their phone to conicide with Apple's iPhone 7 launch and is now paying the price...Apple is winning back some customers because people (like me who own an iPhone 4S) are not going to buy the exploding Samsungs, yet really want a new phone, but wanted to try the Samsungs...so yes, I may actually go buy an iPhone 7 this winter. But my iPhone works just fine, thank you. I can wait a few more months for the dust to settle before plunking down hundreds of dollars for some kind of 128GB-size smartphone.

Just because the other guy utterly fails doesn't mean your product is actually wanted. It may be purchased out of necessity.
I thought the same thing as you.But now that I actually have the 7 Plus in hand after upgrading from an iPhone 6 it was well worth the upgrade imo.The back looks cleaner and the dual cameras are awesome in a way although not quite the best.Phone destroys my iPhone 6 in speed.Also the haptic feedback throughout the OS makes it seem as though everything has a weight.The NC has a distinctive thump.Scrolling through the dates has a feeling like rolling real beads.Matte black looks good too and battery life is a night and day difference from my 6.A very nice upgrade imp
 
Yep. Just today one of my customers asked me, "Do you have a Samsung, because I heard on the news they are catching on fire". I explained to her that it was only one model but I still don't think she would ever get a Samsung. This will do a lot of damage.
I said the same in the alternatives forum


The average customer don’t see note 7…they see Samsung phones! Which is why it’s going to be so tough for Samsung to recover from this.
 
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