Apple Shares Hit New High for 2016 as Samsung Considers Scrapping Note 7 [Update: Note 7 Officially Discontinued]

[tito2020]

If not kidding-
What are you basing that on??

lucky guess

 

[44267547]

What haters? Samsung did this to themselves. I have a friend who was contemplating the Note 7 but was holding back due to the exploding issues. I was actually encouraging him to not change his mind, and that it should be fine after the replacement batteries.

Samsung managed to make even the replacements an issue.

You don't even need to hate them. They just seem to keep shooting themselves in the foot.

You replied to the wrong post and forum member.

 

[MathersMahmood]

 

[gimikinc]

Tough blow to Samsung and really tempers their attack ads against the iphone. Guess that just leaves the lame Microsoft ads now.

 

[byke]

Maybe now Samsung can refurbish these phones and release them as Note 6's instead?

 

[masotime]

Schadenfreude is bad karma. You haters should hope that Samsung SDI (the battery manufacturer in question) did not produce exploding Li-Ion batteries for Apple's iPhone. They're on Apple's supplier list.

What haters? Samsung did this to themselves. I have a friend who was contemplating the Note 7 but was holding back due to the exploding issues. I was actually encouraging him to not change his mind, and that it should be fine after the replacement batteries.

Samsung managed to make even the replacements an issue.

You don't even need to hate them. They just seem to keep shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[Tycho24]

lucky guess

If correct... (HIGHLY unlikely), that certainly would be just sheer luck, I suppose.
As, logic dictates that will NOT be the case.
1st of all- these 2 enormous companies have so much money, it's silly & absolutely the top talent in the world.
In your hypothetical world, where some upstart pops up & somehow scales so quickly that neither Google nor Apple are able to come out with a competing product... they would likely absorb your "impossible company".
Even if that didn't occur... I think Blackberry taught us all a lesson about not being stubborn. Either company can & will pivot if there is a different game changer tech that would have the capacity to render them "tech dinosaurs".
You assuming that they couldn't or wouldn't adapt to a new paradigm seems odd, as well as unlikely.

 

[gnasher729]

That's a good question. How many exploding iPhones have we seen? (None that are due to the battery that I know of) as other posters have mentioned, it wasn't the battery but something else. Now, that being said, lithium ion batteries have limits and are more eager to burn than you would want, but we're stuck until a better solution can be widely adopted.

People had problems when batteries were physical damaged, like one that exploded because a botched repair job had put some screws right into the battery. And that's what you would expect with any phone: If you are physically damaging the battery, you are asking for serious trouble. With a Samsung phone, an Apple phone, any phone.

 

[PantalonesSucia]

Any news today on something Apple related? Like new MacBook Pros? Guess not.

 

[gnasher729]

For me, the odd thing is a report where Samsung apparently claimed that the replacement devices had a different problem. If that's the case, then this seems to disprove their own story that a faulty battery batch was to blame (since if that were the case, the replacements should not have had any problem).

I wouldn't be surprised is somewhere in a factory there was a box with 50,000 batteries and a big sign "DO NOT USE" on it, and for the next batch of phones instead of ordering 1,000,000 batteries and paying for 1,000,000 batteries, someone ordered 950,000, paid 950,000, added the 50,000 faulty batteries, and put the money for 50,000 batteries in his own pocket. (Now IF that was the case then I wouldn't be surprised if that person never went to court, and I wouldn't blame Samsung one bit).

 

[GeneralChang]

Well... I guess I'm not surprised, actually.

 

[thelookingglass]

This hurts Samsung, but they'll be back. One phone model is just a fraction of their overall profit.

Can you imagine if this happened to the iPhone though? Apple would be decimated. Scary thought.

 

[sransari]

Wish Samsung stock was traded on the US Market. Would have made a killing shorting this

 

[gnasher729]

Nope. Apple don't use Samsung SDI's battery. Apple uses ATL's battery.

There's also the fact that if Samsung phones explode because of Samsung batteries, then Samsung is responsible and has to pay, but if Apple phones exploded because of Samsung batteries, then Samsung would also be responsible and would have to pay. Sony paid out a lot of money for laptop batteries, and I can't remember if it was Nvidia or ATI that paid out a lot for faulty graphics cards.

 

[symphara]

Yeah, by shipping tons of low end phones that bring them very little profit. Much of the profitability in their smartphone business comes from their high end phones (S-series, Note phones).

Which begs the question. How much closer to 100% can we push Apple's share of mobile profits for the year?

With customers like you, if I were Apple, I'd stick another 2k on the price of the iPhone. If your purpose in life is to make Apple more profit, you'd be happy.

 

[MikePLP]

Nice bait thread title. Couldn't leave it at Apple's finances, had to throw Samsung's name in there. How many added clicks did that net you?

In a month where Apple's dying Mac lineup was supposed to be revamped, MacRumors has gotten to the bottom of the story... By posting article after article of incremental beta updates as front-page news. Well done.

I guess I'm missing the big picture. I visit websites like this because Apple products interest me. But all I get from this site now are shareholder results and software developer ads. Thanks.

You sound like a samsung shareholder.

 

[pat500000]

50% off retail? How about a FREE device. Those with the Note 7 were cheated out of over $800


Very good points. It seems that Apple has taken the high road on this one. I'm not saying they should resort to Samsung level commercials bashing them, however, a more subtle approach would work just as well IMO.

Not free. They gotta make money still regardless of the incident.

 

[freddiecable]

The game Galaxy Fire (made by Samsung?): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.fishlabs.gof2hdallandroid2012&hl=en

 

[ericlmercer]

Samsung's marketing arm could yet save the Note7 by simply educating the public...

as Water-proofing may be the only feature left that can help make a Note7 cool again...

 

[5105973]

Yes, you'd watch both side-by-side on the page for comparison, but the individual full screen views are probably more telling.



I watched it at work without sound I'm going to watch all the samples again and pay attention to the audio.

Oh silly me I didn't realize I could bring up the full screen version. Thanks. I'm heading in later to try and turn in my Note 7. Waiting to go in to the annual parent-teacher conference right now.

 

[Codeseven]

Whoa! CNBC says investors are jumping ship, $19 Billion (yup, that's with a B) loss to Samsung stock this morning, and, Apple has ordered an additional 12 Million iPhone 7 phones in anticipation of additional sales.

 

[CEmajr]

I actually think this Note 7 fiasco will provide a good opportunity for companies like LG and Huawei to gain some traction in the market. As of right now carriers are allowing exchanges for different devices and with most Android users being loyal to the OS and Apple not having proper stock of the 7/7 Plus, it could be a boon for those companies. It remains to be seen if this will effect the overall Galaxy brand going forward.

 

[dotnet]

Oh silly me I didn't realize I could bring up the full screen version. Thanks. I'm heading in later to try and turn in my Note 7. Waiting to go in to the annual parent-teacher conference right now.

I just read news about Kodak (recently returned to profitability) unveiling a smartphone shortly, all focussed around imaging. That's going to be interesting.

 

[btbeme]

Difference between the two: Apple blamed the user and never fixed those *gate issues. Calling yourself courageous just shows how big of an ego you have.

Samsung is offering refunds. It takes courage to admit mistakes

None of the *gate issues were harmful. One single Samsung phone nearly suffocated a plane full of passengers with toxic smoke (glad it was on the ground). There is no comparison between inconvenient design and life-threatening design.

 

[satchmo]

I actually think this Note 7 fiasco will provide a good opportunity for companies like LG and Huawei to gain some traction in the market. As of right now carriers are allowing exchanges for different devices and with most Android users being loyal to the OS and Apple not having proper stock of the 7/7 Plus, it could be a boon for those companies. It remains to be seen if this will effect the overall Galaxy brand going forward.

I think Huawei is going to make major in-roads outside of China.

As far as Samsung, I would discontinue the entire Note brand name.
From a marketing standpoint, the next 'Note', should be called something completely different.