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Yeah and I use Gmail but I don't sit on Googlerumors all day long calling people morons because they use Android. (And you presumably don't consider Google or Android beyond criticicism, do you?) Until that day, the irony meter is off the charts when you call people fanboys :rolleyes:

To be fair, if you did put join some 'googlerumors' forum and put in criticism of things they're doing poorly, I'd applaud you for it...

What, did you think I have no problem with the way Google does everything? Silly Apply fanboy... that's not objective!
 
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Yeah, and I still use Apple products but I don't have an IQ below 90 to think everything Apple does is without question the best ever. Criticism of Apple is warranted in a lot of areas, don't pretend like it's not. :rolleyes:
Except the comments below do not have anything to do with Apple. It is an "opinion" on forum members.
So many irredeemable deplorables in this thread celebrating the failures of one company. Talk about petulant Apple fanboys.
Because fanboyism, that's why.
Don't be that but hurt person.
 
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To be fair, if you did put join some 'googlerumors' forum and put in criticism of things they're doing poorly, I'd applaud you for it...

What, did you think I have no problem with the way Google does everything? Silly Apply fanboy... that's not objective!

Yeah sure you would. You call people Apple Fanboys for having an opinion different to yours on an Apple site. One can only imagine the apoplectic, frothing rage it would induce if they did it on a Google oriented one.

You're a fanboy squared, you're just on the other side of the fence.
 
I have to disagree with your assertion.

About 30 years ago, Tylenol pain relievers had a problem with someone "tampering" with their product and people died. Tylenol's parent company immediately yanked the product; made huge public announcements and "owned" the problem (even though it was determined that the tampering took place after the product left the manufacturing plants).

Tylenol is still one of the biggest selling OTC pain relievers sold today - and that's because the company handled the problem quickly, with unbelievable transparency and created a new packaging system that prevents product tampering.

In this case - I think that IF Samsung handles this correctly - which I think they are doing - they may keep their brand recognition and trust safe. As to how they are handling the exploding washing machines - they are not doing such a good job.

I am normally NOT a fan of Samsung and I Shame them quite often for their outright theft of IP, but I think they are doing the right thing for once.

YMMV


Except that people are smart enough to realize that the Tylenol problem was not theirs and did not try to push a solution that should fix the problem only to cause the problem again. Samsung took their best guess and went with the battery being the issue. It wasn't and they sent phones they labeled safe to people that weren't safe.

This caused an issue on a plane, thankfully not major and multiple people including a 13 year old with burns. So no, they did not do the right thing because they sent phones deemed safe that weren't to customers AFTER the original issues were reported.
 
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Yeah sure you would. You call people Apple Fanboys for having an opinion different to yours on an Apple site. One can only imagine the apoplectic, frothing rage it would induce if they did it on a Google oriented one.

You're a fanboy squared, you're just on the other side of the fence.

Yeah, my MacBook, my Hackintosh, my old Mac Pro, my Airport router don't mean sh*t, right?

Look, I know you're having a hard time dealing with called out and slapped silly by being proven wrong. Just take the loss like a man and move on.
 
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Yeah, my MacBook, my Hackintosh, my old Mac Pro, my Airport router don't mean sh*t, right?

Look, I know you're having a hard time dealing with called out and slapped silly by being proven wrong. Just take the loss like a man and move on.

Lmao carry on hugging your crappy old machines and crying on Macrumors :rolleyes:

"Baw baw da big mean men thaid bad things about thamthung on the internet" :D
 
And here's another one. So you're saying nothing but the Note 7 was a worthy competitor to iphone?

One less choice in an already limited field.

A high profile premium flagship phone from a major competitor no longer exists. That's a problem. Potentially impacting the entire Galaxy line - unprecedented.

Apple Inc. doesn't really bother to compete in any arena other than premium. That's where the money is.

Consumers who want a competent phone coupled with a lower price point have many other options.

None of them threaten Apple's market share.

Who does?
 
Difference between the two: Apple blamed the user and never fixed those *gate issues. Calling yourself courageous just shows how big of an ego you have.

Samsung is offering refunds. It takes courage to admit mistakes

False. It takes your phone blowing up and causing bodily harm to multiple people to admit mistakes, apparently.
 
I can hardly see Samsung removing from this anytime soon. I work with phones and already have customers waiting for the S8 & S8 Edge. Some are even considering the Pixel phone now over the Note.

Apple really need to bulk up supply of the 7 Plus to capitalize on this.

capitalize on what? my gf is in the same situation with her Note 7. I assure you she is not switching to Apple after this. Apple may get some benefit from this but not merely as much as you think.
 
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#1. Pinto was no less safe in a rear crash than other cars of the era. The whole thing was started by some nut job magazine and the nut job Ralph Nader. It was found to be as safe as other small cars of the time

The Pinto *was* less safe in rear crashes than many other cars of the era. While it shared one particular flaw (placement of the gas tank relative to the rear-axel differential) which made burst tanks more common than with vehicles where the tank was *above* the differential, it *also* had a flaw which would cause the tank to disconnect from the fill hose, making post-accident *spills* more common, even when the tank itself retained structural integrity.
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Wow. Someone really messed up on QC. I feel sorry for the employees. Will be a while before Samsung lives down this embarrassment.

This doesn't appear to be a QC issue at all, rather it appears to be a design flaw which escaped QA.
QC has to do with manufacturing variance during production.
QA has to do with ensuring the design is suitable for production in the first place.
 
Schadenfreude is bad karma. You haters should hope that Samsung SDI (the battery manufacturer in question) did not produce exploding Li-Ion batteries for Apple's iPhone. They're on Apple's supplier list.
Apparently, skipping QC procedures in order to beat Apple to market with their phone is … worse karma.
 
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This doesn't appear to be a QC issue at all, rather it appears to be a design flaw which escaped QA.
QC has to do with manufacturing variance during production.
QA has to do with ensuring the design is suitable for production in the first place.
Thanks for this, there seem to be a lot of folks on here who don't understand this difference. When trying to hit a deadline, it seems like QA is always the first thing out the window. I'd be more frustrated with Samsung if I couldn't relate so well...
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Oh well, on to the Galaxy Note 6.
There's a part of me that really hopes this is the direction they go. Release a Note 6, then a Note 8, and pretend like it's not unusual at all. We'd have a lot of confused consumers in a few years.
 
Nice bait thread title. Couldn't leave it at Apple's finances, had to throw Samsung's name in there. How many added clicks did that net you?

In a month where Apple's dying Mac lineup was supposed to be revamped, MacRumors has gotten to the bottom of the story... By posting article after article of incremental beta updates as front-page news. Well done.

I guess I'm missing the big picture. I visit websites like this because Apple products interest me. But all I get from this site now are shareholder results and software developer ads. Thanks.
I’ve yet to find a website that only publishes articles I like and read from beginning to end.

It’s easy enough to skip reading the article and move on to the next one…

And when you’ve exhausted all the articles here, there are plenty of other websites.
 
Samsung chose to discontinue rather than say "well we made the batteries that got affected vs Chine who did their own" or we haven't gotten to the root cause yet, so we'll take the easy way out and just not sell it anymore..

These companies. :rolleyes:

Must of been something big to make them do this.
If something is not found yet, i'm persistent until i see what exactly the problem is, and if i can't find it, i keep looking, above all..

They do know they will loose heaps here by NOT selling it .... how badly do they want this on the market ?
 
Your quote of me is incorrect. Not mine. :eek:
Haven't owned every model, just a couple (still use my 5). ;)

Whups - forum software "feature" alert! I actually quoted this post by Rcypher3 - looks like its got a malformed/corrupted QUOTE element in it that caused my reply to attribute the quote to you.

(Personally, I was thinking about upgrading my Note 2, which is about due an update, to a 7... glad I didn't rush to the shops!)
 
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I feel for those who have nt even got their replacements yet, only to find this. Sorry, u can't have that phone u payed good money for..

{silence} *crys from customer*
 
Future profits, when your competitor is driven out of the area, or when there are enough customer recognizing your brand and you can add more and more profits onto your products, GRADUALLY.

Doesn't really work that way in the context of Apple in the smartphone industry. The iPhone hasn't been disrupted by cheaper android smartphones. As the Google Pixel has shown, it's not so easy to transition upmarket and try to sell a more expensive product if your brand was previously associated with cheaper offerings.

There is nothing Samsung or Google or Microsoft or any other competitor can do to threaten Apple or me as an Apple product user.
 
Which begs the question. How much closer to 100% can we push Apple's share of mobile profits for the year?
That's the real indication. I'd like to see the phone companies/smartphones ranked based on total profits generated. Apple would be #1 I would think.
 
... Then I'll be laughing. How would you like that?...

"Hey, you're not from around here, are you Pilgrim?"... -John Wayne

Heh heh. Seriously... you don't seem too happy... what are you doing here?... in an Apple forum... watching us all partying over the just recall of your master's 19 billion dollar meltdown?

Shouldn't you be in line somewhere commiserating with friends at some Note7 Recall Depot ? ...turning in that over-heating IED Samsung sold you before it explodes?

Sure, I'd love to see you happier & able to smile again Pilgrim... so come back after exchanging your Note7 for an iPhone... you'll feel better... It would be wonderful to see you smiling & happy, my friend.
 
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