Only in your dreams.Don't be happy folks.
This may mean Apple may come out with an iPhone 7s due to lack of competition.
Going for hard for Samsung to recover from this
I'm not a fanboy of either Apple or Samsung, but let's face it, the iPhone 7 is unimpressive...just another year with another version that has very few new features...and also a bunch of "features" like the missing headphone jack and the charging methodolgy that really annoy people. Samsung rushed out their phone to conicide with Apple's iPhone 7 launch and is now paying the price...Apple is winning back some customers because people (like me who own an iPhone 4S) are not going to buy the exploding Samsungs, yet really want a new phone, but wanted to try the Samsungs...so yes, I may actually go buy an iPhone 7 this winter. But my iPhone works just fine, thank you. I can wait a few more months for the dust to settle before plunking down hundreds of dollars for some kind of 128GB-size smartphone.
Just because the other guy utterly fails doesn't mean your product is actually wanted. It may be purchased out of necessity.
Yes, it's well known. China's ATL is Apple's main supplier, but Apple doesn't single-source nearly anything.Nope. Apple don't use Samsung SDI's battery. Apple uses ATL's battery.
My guess is, it's a combination of demand for higher capacity, crammed into ever smaller spaces and charged at turbo speeds.Doubt that. Samsung will do just fine.
My personal bigger concern: is this an issue that is going to grow across all brands? Now seeing articles on iPhone 7/7+ going up in smoke. Have batteries reached the limit in current design?
I'll be interested in the actual root cause of the issue.
That reads as your opinion and not fact.
I still think they would state I'd they have scrapped it.
Schadenfreude is bad karma. You haters should hope that Samsung SDI (the battery manufacturer in question) did not produce exploding Li-Ion batteries for Apple's iPhone. They're on Apple's supplier list.
Samsung doesn't have a choice in the matter. Scrapping the Note 7 is the only appropriate decision at this point and re-directing their focus on producing a better product to the customer.
Woot! Just wish Google wasn't coincidentally launching their own phone to take up the slack otherwise android would be dead in the water, which it entirely deserves.
I doubt that. But this will affect consumer confidence in Samsung Phones.This could affect consumer confidence in all smart phones.
That is what I'm afraid of. I'm actually thinking there are multiple faults that converge toward the same end result. In most of the reported explosions, there didn't seem to be any warning. But there are other cases of other Samsungs overheating and failing. I had a loaner S7 that I was not even able to use after awhile because it kept randomly overheating. I could not even text when outdoors this past early September because in the hot ambient temperatures outdoors the phone got frying hot in my hand.
My current Note 7 was fine at first, though I could not use fast charging or it would heat up and so would the charger. It was actually the charger I was concerned about. But over the weekend it started randomly heating up quite hot doing things like recording video. It never did that at the beginning. I used it extensively since it got it. Something has changed just over the last couple of days. Interestingly enough it's happening on the same time frame that it's taken the other Note7s to fully melt down.
I honestly do not believe how people can still assert that Samsung is doing the right thing. When this problem first came up and they did the first recall asap, admittedly that's ALMOST the right thing except that they tried to sidestep the CPSC.
And now we realise the problem may be more than faulty batteries. It may be due to a faulty body design too. And their 'fix' didn't really worked. That's because they rushed the fix and skipped approvals thinking they can solve the problems asap to make consumers think they are efficient and caring and at the same time reduce lost sales because of product downtime. This can only reflect badly on their decision.
And now they scrape the phone entirely can only be called "the ONLY thing they could do", not the 'right' thing.
+1, as I would have favored an iPhone (7, 6SS, 6SSS, whatever number) to be 2 mm thicker, with a super battery, an ordinary 3.5" audioport, OLED and wireless charging. 2016 seems so much lost in taptic nonsense, lack of ports, and smoke.Doubt that. Samsung will do just fine.
My personal bigger concern: is this an issue that is going to grow across all brands? Now seeing articles on iPhone 7/7+ going up in smoke. Have batteries reached the limit in current design?
I'll be interested in the actual root cause of the issue.
Or Samsung Senior management created an environment where either technical people felt they could not properly raise their concerns, or middle management diluted them to such an extent that it was impossible for the real decision makers to understand the risks. Most technical people I have ever worked with are very conservative. I'd be very surprised if this fiasco is a result of engineers making mistakes. I strongly suspect the management structure of Samsung is to blame for all the pain they are currently going through.
Wall Street remains hung up on Android market share and high number of sales of even the cheapest smartphones to throw in Apple's face despite one iPhone could equal the combined selling price of about four low-cost Samsung smartphones. Samsung certainly doesn't sell three or four times as many smartphones as Apple. Wall Street's constant focus on smartphone market share doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense when Apple is raking in so much smartphone profit. As though it's going to kill Apple not to sell as many iPhones in India as Samsung does. How come Wall Street doesn't look at Porsche 911 sales that way? Is Porsche going out of business because they can't sell as many Porsche 911s as Toyota can sell Camrys in India?Yeah, by shipping tons of low end phones that bring them very little profit. Much of the profitability in their smartphone business comes from their high end phones (S-series, Note phones).
Which begs the question. How much closer to 100% can we push Apple's share of mobile profits for the year?
Wall Street remains hung up on Android market share and high number of sales of even the cheapest smartphones to throw in Apple's face despite one iPhone could equal the combined selling price of about four low-cost Samsung smartphones. Samsung certainly doesn't sell three or four times as many smartphones as Apple. Wall Street's constant focus on smartphone market share doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense when Apple is raking in so much smartphone profit. As though it's going to kill Apple not to sell as many iPhones in India as Samsung does. How come Wall Street doesn't look at Porsche 911 sales that way? Is Porsche going out of business because they can't sell as many Porsche 911s as Toyota can sell Camrys in India?
Maybe. But with the millions of Note 7s being sold and this issue getting major media attention, I can't believe that Samsung didn't have a complete bill of health report from engineering that (A) the issue is X and (B) X is not an issue on these phones. If they had anything less than that, they certainly took a risk. But maybe, as you say, by the time the report got through middle management, it looked like what I say above but it really was more of a "we think we know what happened" report at the lower levels.
And cancellation of their most innovative and unique line of phones is so drastic that I could see everyone in the company wanting somehow to come to a different conclusion. That is a lot of pressure to find an "easy" solution instead of just cancellation and full refund to all customers.
Don't tempt them. Somebody at Samsung has been pushing that idea for a while, I can tell.
[doublepost=1476174258][/doublepost]Samsung stock down by 8%. Are they gonna recover from this? How do you encourage people to place trust in their products again? Samsung should shut up shop and disband immediately, the CEO should resign. DOWN WITH THE SHAMESUNG.
But seriously, are they gonna recover from this?