Yep. No one wants to hear it when they want to launch ahead of Apple's iPhone.
But does this failure end the Note as a brand, period? Can there possibly be a Note 8 in 2017?
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Apple Shares Hit New High for 2016 as Samsung Considers Scrapping Note 7 [Update: Note 7 Officially Discontinued]
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Yep. No one wants to hear it when they want to launch ahead of Apple's iPhone.
But does this failure end the Note as a brand, period? Can there possibly be a Note 8 in 2017?
I've only seen the one where the phone exploded in transit to the buyer. Are there more? I can't find via Google
Discontinued less than four months after launch. I suspect that Samsung spokesperson who stood on stage at the Note 7 event and said, "And yes, it has a headphone jack" with a smirk on his face has long since wiped that smirk off his face.
The main point is though, Mustang- obviously it wasn't a "bad battery supplier" that caused this issue.... as evidenced by the "safe" ones still exploding.
The super high density of their new "super quick charge" batteries cause them to run hotter & expand some.
Thus, they would need more room, or some other thermal consideration. It's merely the way they are jammed into this phone that is causing the problem. I fully believe that these batteries are being assembled "correctly"; according to the exact specifications given to them at the factory. If placed in a huge tablet, with a heat sink & plenty of room around them to facilitate the expanding/contracting nature of this new technology, these exact same batteries would quite likely NOT explode.
I don't think we have anything to worry about with regards to parts from Samsung.
Begrudgingly or not, even here- most admit that as a parts manufacturer, they are top-notch.
It is the point where they engineer those parts (& those from their other suppliers) into their final product, that the lack of attention to detail & extensive testing has hurt them.
Indeed. Thankfully, nobody displaying schadenfreude about this fiasco is in the business of making phones or batteries. Notably, you'll find Apple's complete lack of comment – let alone snark and derision – about this.
If you believe in karma you'd probably think that systemic theft and corruption are bad karma, too. Assuming that, Samsung's bad luck has been a long time in the making. Their history of misconduct (much of it criminal) is simply staggering: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war
Yeah, he wiped that look off his face.
He didn't realize the headphone jack was actually a smokestack.
So you are asking Samsung to totally abandon their current product development strategy and adopt the strategy Apple is using?
Wow. Totally and financially unrealistic.
OTOH, do you remember when people refused to fly on 737s because nobody had figured out yet why they would sometimes roll over and dive into the ground? (Hint: rudder servo reversal) Heck, I love aircraft but even I used to avoid them for a while.
Many thought that was the end of the 737, but the problem was eventually found and fixed, passengers forgot about the crashes, and it's gone on to become the best-selling commercial jetliner ever.
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I paid for my coffee this morning using my iPhone and Apple Pay, and this old chap said "hopefully it's not one of those Samsung phones, they keep blowing up!"
Made me realise how bad this is for Samsung's brand image...indeed a PR disaster and a nasty fall off a cliff for what was a well regarded brand. People will now start believing every Samsung phone is prone to flaming or blowing up.
Price is still not coming down. US models are at around $600 while Euro models are way more than that.
Now that I think of it, there is a good chance that we will not see firesale price depreciation at all since availability will be limited after everyone returns their unit.
Now that I think of it, there is a good chance that we will not see firesale price depreciation at all since availability will be limited after everyone returns their unit.
I don't see the Pixel as a let down and there seems to be a two month back log of sales so they're selling to someone.
No idea about the Pixel, but according to the recent Anandtech review (and going by the samples they show) the Samsung phones are very nearly unsuitable for recording video. Not because of audio, but because of video quality issues.
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Since when is Apple in the computer business?
What do you want? They depend on Intel, and that will continue for at least another two or three years. Intel has gone back to their pre-AMD slumber, they will only wake up and start delivering if another competitor pops up and steps on their toes again.
Do we truly know that Samsung rushed this to market?
Or is it simply they got unlucky with a bad supplier?
I'm not an expert in quality control methods, but is there a ratio of fail to pass before an item is given the green light?
If so, did some QC manager push this through because of pressure from above?
Or is it simply they got unlucky with a bad supplier?
I'm not an expert in quality control methods, but is there a ratio of fail to pass before an item is given the green light?
If so, did some QC manager push this through because of pressure from above?
Something needs to fill in the gap in the market.
A lot of you fail to realize that competition is GOOD for the marketplace. A motivated Apple tries to innovate an improve. When there was no real competition iPhone users had to beg for things like MMS and landscape keyboards and be told 'you didn't need them'.
The single greatest jump - iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 came because there was suddenly real competition in the smartphone arena.
The massive sales of the iPhone 6 were because Apple customers wanted the bigger screens that other phones had....and that Apple had stubbornly refused to make.
Apple currently does the bare minimum to stay up with the competition...what happens when that competition isn't there?
A lot of you fail to realize that competition is GOOD for the marketplace. A motivated Apple tries to innovate an improve. When there was no real competition iPhone users had to beg for things like MMS and landscape keyboards and be told 'you didn't need them'.
The single greatest jump - iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 came because there was suddenly real competition in the smartphone arena.
The massive sales of the iPhone 6 were because Apple customers wanted the bigger screens that other phones had....and that Apple had stubbornly refused to make.
Apple currently does the bare minimum to stay up with the competition...what happens when that competition isn't there?
Too early to say anything. It can go either downhill or Samsung will rise from the "ashes". No doubt, this is good for Apple, but we still want Apple's next phone to be worth the upgrade. And besides improving the looks, there has to be a real revolutionary feature (ahem... true wireless charging...so I can use my earphones and charge at the same time ).
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Their bad supplier was a part of their own company. Samsung SDI.
And yes it's has been reported they Samsung HQ applied pressure on Samsung SDI and brought forward the launch schedule to beat the iPhone 7 to market.
Would not wish this on my worst enemy. Well except Samsung. I do wish this on them considering how they behave around patent law and overall business practices.
[EDIT: No he didn't, it was Rcypher3 ...who quoted Rhonindk and left the QUOTE tag open...]
...or, when the "Note 8" (although I'm sure it won't be called that) comes out, you could just wait a few months before buying one and let the early adopters discover if it is prone to going foom... because this could have easily happened to any smartphone manufacturer's latest product. Anyway, the "Product Formerly Known as Note 8" will, now, probably be the most thoroughly fire-tested phone ever produced.
I think the numbers are something like 100 failures out of a million units in the US - not acceptable, given the dangerous nature of the failure, but still low enough to slip through testing.
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Wasn't the Galaxy created by a Big Bang? Sounds like Samesong was trying for the "Second Coming".
1)I don't load up my iPhone with 312 apps like some folks do...nor do I update the iOS because Apple pushes it to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Seems nobody understands this concept these days. I'm running iOS 6.x
2)I use my phone for phone calls, email, quick web surf, texting, and my 5300 songs. Anything else and I'd prefer an actual computer or maybe, just maybe, my iPad Air with iOS 8.
3)I should have been clearer...the 7 is impressive compared to the 4S...the 7 is larger, comes (now, finally) with more base storage, better cameras, and a nicer screen. But all the iOS changes every. bleeping. year. is ridiculous...and it's bloated...and it requires me to CONSTANTLY update iTunes on my Wintel. It's a 47 step process to get a new iPhone every year. But the 7 is *nimpressive* compared to the 6...and I would even say to the 5. Better camera? So what?...that's expected with any device that has a camera that keeps updating yearly. Slightly larger? Big deal. I'll go back and find my post from a few years ago of a ton of missing features from the iPhone/iOS on this forum and repost sometime soon...I bet 90% of the features are still missing.
Here is a link that points to a 6S+, 7, and 7+ I was reading this morning ...
http://bgr.com/2016/10/10/iphone-6-plus-explosions/