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I think you need to re read what I typed. Yes I’m in agreement it’s about the technology. But the technology that’s increased cost to only show a fun silly use for it. It’s about being fun and silly other than locking for phone.

No, I don't need to re-read what you wrote. What exactly are you expecting this technology to do? Its still in its infancy. Of course Apple is going to demo the animoji's in a way that can be silly and fun too, not every feature has to be serious or absolutely appreciated by everybody. It's just you don't agree with it. But don't be dismissive of something that clearly will be expanded upon in future of the iPhone.
 
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Sigh. Apple makes a product that has multiple times the processing power of the computers that brought us to the moon or that most people nowadays work on, and the best "feature" they could come up to market the device is animating emojis.

Well, at least I can look forward to what app developers make out of its power and that they get inspired by this showcase of technology. When Apple probably brings TrueDepth to the main camera, too, this might be one of the biggest advancements in photography technology, adding endless possibilities from creating data-rich 3D RAW files to precision measuring and sensor tech to augmented reality tech.
 
Doh!!! Rogifan must be new, Apple did this same maneuver with Siri. Pile on the new gimmicky stuff only on the latest and greatest regardless of if it will work on the existing. Then, say it only works on the latest and greatest. I don't much care, I am not dying for animoji but it is still a $#1t move by Apple.
So wait, animated emojis are a stupid gimmick not worthy of a $1000 phone yet Apple artificially limited this gimmick to the $1000 phone? Pick one, can’t be both.
 
Nonsense. Puppet shows and circus and crude plays have existed for thousands of years. Get over yourself.

It's not the same - puppet shows and the circus were events that people had to plan into their day - and were not another dopamine hit *engineered* to engage us, whether we want it or not.

Consider listening to this:
https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-is-technology-doing-to-us

In this episode [...] Tristan Harris about the arms race for human attention, the ethics of persuasion,[..].
 
For those $12B, Apple not only created animoji. It invented customers behaving like zombies.

Not even that, makes total sense what Timmy is doing, look at whom they are selling.. overprice everything till Black Friday, then set it's real price as "discount", sad times..


 
That first ad is absolutely pathetic. Jesus Christ, is this what Apple has come to? Is that innovation? I call bulls*t. The iPhone X is the defining product of the Tim Cook era. Take that as you will.
Yes. The technology is even if you don’t care for this implementation. Maybe people should stop being such wet blankets. Nobody is forced to use animated emoji, just like no one is forced to use stickers or Snapchat or anything else like that. If animated emoji really offend people that much those people are way to easily offended.
 
Yes. The technology is even if you don’t care for this implementation. Maybe people should stop being such wet blankets. Nobody is forced to use animated emoji, just like no one is forced to use stickers or Snapchat or anything else like that. If animated emoji really offend people that much those people are way to easily offended.

And this is how that technology is being implemented? So you can send your friends a lip-syncing Animoji? That's what's being marketed as a "Feature". It's nonsense, I'm more disgusted then offended. This type of gimmicky marketing is an unwelcome change.
 
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And this is how that technology is being implemented? So you can send your friends a lip-syncing Animoji? That's what's being marketed as a "Feature". It's nonsense, I'm more disgusted then offended. This type of gimmicky marketing is an unwelcome change.

Get over yourself - it's not *the only* feature that's being featured in a whole *campaign* of iPhone ads over a pre-launch and launch season.

Despite what many posters here seem to believe there are real people with real money who may not know there is a new iPhone, and if they do, they <gasp> may not know all of it's features - Apple will have made a considered decision to spend some of their money pile on telling people about it in the hope they may buy one, or encourage others to do so. Macrumors site & forum is a bubble for a hardcore 1% of 1% who are super-interested and, believe it or not, do not represent the totality of the available global market for Apple.

There seems to be an increasing sense of entitlement across this site that every single move Apple make has to be for that single poster as an individual, and if - for whatever tiniest reason - it doesn't exactly appeal to him / her THEN IT COMPLETELY SUCKS AND APPLE ARE GOING BANKRUPT AND STEVE WOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED-OFF ON THIS EVER.
 
No, I don't need to re-read what you wrote. What exactly are you expecting this technology to do? Its still in its infancy. Of course Apple is going to demo the animoji's in a way that can be silly and fun too, not every feature has to be serious or absolutely appreciated by everybody. It's just you don't agree with it. But don't be dismissive of something that clearly will be expanded upon in future of the iPhone.

Hmm. I may ask you what do YOU think this technology would be expanded on?

Oh wait ... thank you you've just sparked an idea considering the news on front page this morning.

Accessibility actions or movement controls, if that's possible?
 
The funny thing is FaceID doesn’t work for me at all in the dark.
And why do they pick the most annoying songs for their ads these days?
 
The $12B spent in 2017 is probably on stuff you haven't seen yet.
...as the pipeline gets longer and longer, with Homepod taking 5 years and not getting ready for Christmas either.
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Macrumors site & forum is a bubble for a hardcore 1% of 1% who are super-interested and, believe it or not, do not represent the totality of the available global market for Apple.
..... THEN IT COMPLETELY SUCKS AND APPLE ARE GOING BANKRUPT AND STEVE WOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED-OFF ON THIS EVER.
Everyone with an IQ > 5 seems to be falling outside that scope (your left arm seems to be resting on your capslock key...)
 
These ads honestly make me feel very sad - the banality, the triviality of the times we live in. When such expensive toys and smart people bring us... this.
Amusing ourselves to death.

Agree for every dollar the iPhone X cost, which would be 1000%. I have an absolute zero tolerance for people with zero serious computing agenda. I remember back when Uncle Steve demoed Photo Booth for the first time and my utter elephantine disdain for it, the Mac he demoed it on, and everything Apple. I vowed from that day forth to switch to Windows as Microsoft does not endeavor into such frivolity that Apple so often does. I am a serious person so I need a serious computer. Nowadays I use Linux.

This Thanksgiving, I made it my mission to educate my family and their friends in the virtue of owning and using such luxurious yet immensely powerful systems such as Linux, Windows, and Android, purely because these respected and award-winning marvels of technology don't trifle such childish experiences that Apple proffers to its users. They did not respond well and it is unfortunate that their recalcitrant and intransigent petulance towards my facts made an other joyful Thanksgiving an awkward event. I just made sure to quip just how awesome my Samsung-branded phone and Chromebook allow me to perform serious and intelligent computing tasks.

I have such hateful rage for Apple's insistence in humanizing technology. No. Stop it, Apple. Stop it. Technology doesn't need liberal arts. Technology is technology. Period. End of story. Fin.
 
...as the pipeline gets longer and longer, with Homepod taking 5 years and not getting ready for Christmas either.
Better to get it right than get it early.

HomePod buyers will wait. If they sold 1M units in December, it would only be $350M in revenue...a rounding error for AAPL. Wake me up when there is an iPhone delay.
 
So wait, animated emojis are a stupid gimmick not worthy of a $1000 phone yet Apple artificially limited this gimmick to the $1000 phone? Pick one, can’t be both.

Sure I can. I just did. I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "can't". I think you meant to say "I don't agree that you should say both". It is a gimmick. They also put it on their $1k phone. It also is artificially there. My saying that it is a gimmick has nothing to do with what Apple does or doesn't do with its features. You said you needed "proof" and then after being shown it, you tried to sidestep it. What I was talking about in this post was Apple has a history of lying about features that supposedly can only be put on their latest tech. Apple does that regularly to sell products.
 
Some fun ads.
[doublepost=1511890627][/doublepost]What is Apple's typical timeline? When would have these advertisements been produced exactly?
 
Sure I can. I just did. I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "can't". I think you meant to say "I don't agree that you should say both". It is a gimmick. They also put it on their $1k phone. It also is artificially there. My saying that it is a gimmick has nothing to do with what Apple does or doesn't do with its features. You said you needed "proof" and then after being shown it, you tried to sidestep it. What I was talking about in this post was Apple has a history of lying about features that supposedly can only be put on their latest tech. Apple does that regularly to sell products.
You are spreading false information. Apple’s Animoji does utilize the TrueDepth camera system to create face maps for the best user experience and end result. They developed, tested and tuned Animojis to work with the TrueDepth system’s face map.

That doesn’t mean Apple couldn’t create a similar feature for the iPhone 8 (or other previous models) that didn’t use the TrueDepth camera, but they haven’t done that. They may do that in the future, they may not.

Apple adds extra features (hardware and/or software) exclusively to their top of the line flagship. If people want some or all of those features—if it’s worth it, to them—they’ll pay the $999. If not, they’ll buy a different phone like the 8 or 7 or even the 6+.

But you’re not entitled to features from the flagship phone just because you want to have them without paying for them. It’s really quite simple: you’re not going to get the features of the flagship phone unless you buy the flagship phone.
 
You are spreading false information. Apple’s Animoji does utilize the TrueDepth camera system to create face maps for the best user experience and end result. They developed, tested and tuned Animojis to work with the TrueDepth system’s face map.

That doesn’t mean Apple couldn’t create a similar feature for the iPhone 8 (or other previous models) that didn’t use the TrueDepth camera, but they haven’t done that. They may do that in the future, they may not.

Apple adds extra features (hardware and/or software) exclusively to their top of the line flagship. If people want some or all of those features—if it’s worth it, to them—they’ll pay the $999. If not, they’ll buy a different phone like the 8 or 7 or even the 6+.

But you’re not entitled to features from the flagship phone just because you want to have them without paying for them. It’s really quite simple: you’re not going to get the features of the flagship phone unless you buy the flagship phone.
Dude, I don't want it. But it DOES work without truedepth. There are plenty of people that cover up the truedepth and it works. So it isn't false at all.

https://thenextweb.com/apple/2017/1...actually-need-face-id-for-animoji-apparently/

Well TECHNICALLY you need it to turn it on, but that is it. Geez, people just don't believe Apple does ANYTHING shady. They've been doing this forever people. Siri was the same thing. Worked fine on previous models, but they limited it. And for the record I don't want to make poop talk on my phone, but feel free to enjoy that for yourself.

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Dude, I don't want it. But it DOES work without truedepth. There are plenty of people that cover up the truedepth and it works. So it isn't false at all.

https://thenextweb.com/apple/2017/1...actually-need-face-id-for-animoji-apparently/

Well TECHNICALLY you need it to turn it on, but that is it. Geez, people just don't believe Apple does ANYTHING shady. They've been doing this forever people. Siri was the same thing. Worked fine on previous models, but they limited it. And for the record I don't want to make poop talk on my phone, but feel free to enjoy that for yourself.
Apple has already responded to the shady bloggers, and many online articles have been updated accordingly.

http://mashable.com/2017/11/15/apple-iphone-x-animoji-no-truedepth-camera/#C44nhxbiBsqJ

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/only-the-iphone-x-got-animoji-apparently-for-no-good-r-1820469901

Creating face maps using the TrueDepth camera allows Apple to give a better user experience. Only the X has TrueDepth, and Animoji utilizes features only available in the flagship.

You accuse Apple of lying based on YouTube bloggers jumping to conclusions, trying to get hits. Some people believe anything they see on the Internet.

Apple adds HW/SW features to the flagship that are not available on previous models. All phone manufacturers have a flagship with exclusive features, and software programs also commonly have a lite version and a pro version. If you want the extra features, you aren’t going to get them unless you pay for them.

Apple isn’t under any obligation to backport even software-only features to older phones, let alone features that also use the latest hardware. If you want the features of the most expensive phone, buy the most expensive phone.
 
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While I understand that not every feature has to be used by everyone, I can't help but think humanity would have been better off had Apple diverted the resourced used to develop this, ermmm... "feature".... had been spent elsewhere. This quite simply amounts to a children's toy being touted as a flagship feature on a $1000+ device.

And still no word on this promised "modular" Mac Pro. Probably still trying to figure out how it can be "modular" whilst still throwing the power user over the proverbial barrel.

/rant.
 
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allows Apple to give a better user experience

Enough said. It works without the feature, and yes the bloggers updated that it works but maybe not to "perfection" but works extremely well. Wow, you bleed Apple red. Just remember I am a fan as well, just not a fan of stuff like this when they do it.
 
Samsung has done well, but mostly in chips and oled screen production. Their phones are profitable, but the company’s profitability is driven by their manufacturing.

No one knows if Apple has reached its peak, you very much included. Based on their numbers, you’re entirely wrong. Your feelings don’t matter. Did you study their Q4 report? Objectively, it was outstanding. Growth across the business in all categories and all parts of the world. These numbers had no iPhone X and only 2 weeks of iPhone 8 and Watch 3.

You talk so confidently about what Samsung may or may not release. You have no idea what Apple might develop. Apple spent $11.5B in R&D in 2017. Rumors point to autonomous cars and AR glasses among other things like Micro LED panels. Jury is out on foldable phones, lol. We will see how it’s executed. Samsung doesn’t always execute well. Apple almost always does. Apple even got Samsung to produce a screen for them that is better than the screens Samsung outs on its own phones.

I find IT ironic that you are questioning my credibility when my first paragraph went over your head or you would not mention the Q4 report - I literally laughed out loud, so I am not sure if I can take you seriously.

Samsung did show the foldable device during their keynote a year or two ago and I have seen paper-thin TV’s, so I am very confident about IT being released and a hit.

You mentioned two products Apple are working on 1) AR Glasses and 2) Autonomous Cars. Let’s starts with 1) AR Glasses, I see Apple targeting professionals like in hospitals - training Doctors, but I don’t see how they will persuade the public? Pokemon Go is a good example - currently, how many are playing IT? Do you remember the 3D TV - that is all I will say on IT. Lastly, 2) Autonomous Cars, are you kidding me? Apple will be amongst sharks in a small pond, and how much they will charge - a house? By the way, Samsung tipped to reveal blockbuster 150” Micro LED TV at CES 2018, so there you go.

I am still an Apple fan, but I just don’t like the iPhone X’s notch, and price. How hard is IT for you to comprehend that, eh? This is a genuine and an honest question.
 
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