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Apple Shares New 'Get Ready' Ad Ahead of Vision Pro Launch
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See how Apple’s marketing works! I suppose you imagine “air” means something in Apple speak too.
I don’t think you’re comprehending what I am writing.
Isn't a helmet something that protects your head? I’m pretty sure there is a massive difference.
Yeah I do. Everyone knows 'Air' in Apple Speak can mean 'lite' or even 'light' in real english. And light can have several meanings. It can mean 'not as heavy'; it can mean 'less features', and it can even mean a mixture of both (go figure)!
Consider the first Air device. The MacBook Air. Definitely not as powerful as a MacBook or MacBook Pro at the time, but light and thin enough to fit in an envelope! The thinnest laptop at the time was 1.2”. This was 0.16" to 0.78” The term MacBook Air was defined at the time by Steve Jobs as the lightest, thinnest laptop in the world with a full size keyboard & 13.3” screen.
They also use the term 'Air' in some of their other devices/services. Such as Airplay, or AirPod, or AirPort. It’s a multi use word. I won’t try and explain it all to you now, other than it’s a term Apple use across many devices meaning many things.
I hope that simplifies it a bit, because Air is a much bigger word than just marketing garb if you dig into it.
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Dude what are you talking about. Everyone knows the cost is for the Vision Pro and not just for the storage. Take a deep breath, no one was insulting your new Apple gadget.
I feel like they demoed a lot, but everything felt obvious and underwhelming. What they have so far failed to do, in my opinion, is show us something that feels truly revolutionary. Show me an app completely reimagined with a 3D UI and blow me away! That hasn't happened. Giant iPad windows floating in the air...an immersive "environment"...a giant movie screen...some weird/ghostly Facetime "persona"...all of that feels obvious and not very exciting to me.
If you listen to someone who has tried them, multiple times like Marques Brownlees, and not rely solely on watching a 2D TV version of a simulation, you might think differently. From all accounts the experience of using them is outstanding and nothing like other goggles. I guess I value the opinion of those who have used them over people who haven’t.
What makes you think I haven't listened to them?
And being "nothing like other goggles" isn't the point either. I responded to a comment about Apple's launch video, not about third party reviewers. I don't think Apple gave us any compelling use cases in their launch video. Sure, it all looked cool, but it was also very obvious and predictable.
I can appreciate what you're saying. Most people walked away, and were like "wow, we weren't expecting that", but not everyone appreciates the difference that Vision Pro has to other headsets. For me the only thing that doesn't make this compelling is that I don't need tech to make me happy. But I can appreciate the use cases and how it can impact people in a positive way.
I find it really really hard to criticise a product that hasn't even been launched yet. But that's me, and we are all different.
Can you explain why you’re hung up on a rhetorical comment? Of course it’s not technically a helmet. But from a fashion perspective it might as well be. It goes over your face, over and around your head. Pedantic literalism hasn’t really accomplished anything for you.
I mean, the reason is that Ready Player One depicts a depressing, hopeless, dystopian future. It isn’t a case of “that’s cool! I want that!” Ready Player One is a cautionary story about a radically disconnected, voluntarily isolated population living in a pathetic virtual fantasy world in order to try and escape their horrible, dead end lives… and failing.
Not exactly an association Apple wants to make I think.
… and pointing toward a voluntarily isolated, dystopian future.
Simmer down. You’re the one who was adamant they were different. I was trying to understand how. Don’t start calling me names please.
Reflecting on our distinct childhood experiences, it's clear we grew up in different eras. In my pre-iPhone family life, engagement was key. We had regulated TV time, and our family gatherings centred around conversation, games, and face-to-face socialising.
Interestingly, I often switch off the Wi-Fi during family events to revive this sense of connection. It's especially effective when my parents visit, as they don't have roaming and depend on our Wi-Fi. Initially, this move meets resistance, but the atmosphere quickly shifts to genuine interaction. I subtly turn the Wi-Fi back on later, and the lively engagement continues unnoticed.
Perhaps it's the '80s child in me, but I find myself sceptical of modern norms, particularly with the advent of VR technology. Previously, VR's impact was minimal, appealing mainly to gamers and tech enthusiasts. However, Apple's entry into this space is set to redefine its reach. They're not just targeting games but are expanding into movies, music, work experiences, and social connections through advanced 'avatar overlays'. This blurs the line between reality and virtual, a convergence that will only intensify with advancements in graphics and processing power.
Though initially expensive, I foresee VR becoming more accessible, eventually reaching a broader demographic. This democratisation, while technologically impressive, might lead to societal degradation. The argument that Apple, focusing on widespread distribution and profiting from both hardware and the App Store, is not solely responsible, parallels the debate in the war on drugs: is it the cartels or the street dealers who bear the blame?
While I acknowledge the technological marvel of these VR products, I remain cautious about their societal impact, with the primary aim of hardware and software companies to maximise addiction to their products, often at the expense of societal well-being.
Thanks. I guess my point is I would like to see a hybrid analogue (I like that term), and digital future.
You touched upon coding, and Lego funnily does this wonderfully with Mindstorms. I also bought a Lego robot for my son that combines the use of building and coding to make the robot move and do fun things from the iPad. These activities allow people, children, to remain connected to the real world, while still touching upon digital experiences.
I am 100% for these products and experiences. What disturbs me is the push to a totally disconnected future. I find the thought of a family watching a "movie together" wearing their headsets absolutely horrific. Perhaps my son will see it differently, but it'll never happen in my home.
Playing fast a loose with the definition of words hasn't made your "helmet" complaint any more successful than your other complaints. Well except for the price complaint which is valid depending on who you are.
But I'm glad you finally admitted that goggles are not, in fact, a helmet. But does that really matter since for most people this first version is primarily a wear at home device where people aren't all that concerned about whether something is fashionable in the eyes of others.
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“In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.”
( Douglas Adams - A hitchhiker's guide to the universe )Seriously - your summary is spot on I guess.
I don't ( need ) aka want it - so nobody should want it.
There are things where I act similarly like with the new Sony A7cR camera that should address the same market as the Sony A7R IV and V - but it does not make any sense to save 150 g on a 2 kg camera-lens combination to miss out on sooo many things that make the A7R cameras so much better. Yet I am glad for the people who want a 60 MP small ILC. Even though I think it's not worth saving 200 .. 300 $ on a camera body that is for the most part inferior to a point where it misses the point.
With the AVP there is no other product on the other hand side on the market that can compete in any way not having the same eco system and/or use cases.
Living in Europe I'd be glad to buy the AVP instantaneously at any given price since it will change the way we think computers should be.
In case there will be a 1 TB version this would be my choice - as we learned recently the successor will come in 2027 - that's a whopping 3 years out in time - a lot of time to get new features, APPs, ideas and companies to concentrate on the possibilities. Like with the AW I expect version 3 or 44 to be the thing everybody will desire. Put in 5G and make it smaller and lighter and people will not want their bulky computer back.
Will be a no-brainer for me once available in Europe.
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I haven’t complained about the price. And if you think wearing a headset is a trivial thing for most people you’re operating under a drastic misperception.
It’s amusing watching you be unable to detect sarcasm and humor. It’s also amusing seeing you and others furiously rationalize a product that has massive, blatant barriers to adoption by claiming that it’s completely normal to wear a bulky face mask, helmet like device. Obviously you’re very uncomfortable with the term “helmet” and that illustrates my point.
this is like the chickens who every day are given food by their kind care takers. one day this is not the case.
Some people will buy it, some people wont buy it.
I ride motorcycles, so I have no problem with helmets; that also means that I know what a helmet is. But lets discuss why you feel compelled to call goggles a helmet or face mask, I guarantee it isn’t for an objective reasons.