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You think “Pro” actually means more than “expensive” to Apple? Funny.
That is not what paper launch means. Paper launch means the product releases but due to low availability with it being nigh impossible to buy one it launches on paper. The iPhone was steadily available it was just expensive. The Vision Pro is believed to go out of stock very quickly due to the low quantity of units Apple made, meaning it's launched on paper but we can't buy one due to it being out of stock, ergo: paper launch
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When it comes to devices, Pro means 'expensive' because Pro (or Ultra with watches) also means 'highest specs' for that device family.
One of my intended uses for the AVP is "a new cool way to use those ipad apps."
I'm working on a large philosophical project. I've always used post-it notes to outline the project. At one point, I had over 300 post-it notes on my wall. I could stand in front of it and visualize my project in a way that simply wasn't possible on any computer screen. I could move notes around, and rearrange the entire project. But, as you can imagine, that becomes impractical quickly. Moving one note meant I had to rearrange all notes. The sticky part of the notes would wear off and notes would fall off of the wall.
Enter Apple Freeform. I recently recreated the wall in Freeform. That solved the convenience aspect, but left me with the difficulty of really seeing the whole project. Being able to "get inside" of the ideas.
Freeform on the AVP will allow me to duplicate my wall full of post it notes in a way that is large enough for me to see/visualize the project and easily edit/move/adjust the notes.
But taking this even one step further, Freeform is an infinite canvas. It will allow me to interact and move through all of the notes that I have for my project.
That's just one of several uses that I envision for the AVP, for my specific needs.
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Except for chips and Watches, Pro doesn't necessarily mean professional but it does consistently mean higher specs than the same devices which aren't called Pro.
MacBook Pros have higher specs than the non-Pro MacBooks.
iPad Pros have higher specs than the non-Pro iPads.
AirPods Pros have higher specs than the non-Pro AirPods.
iPhone Pros have higher specs than the non-Pro iPhones.
Mac Pros have higher specs than the non-Pro Macs.
Extrapolating this means there will be a lower-specced and lower-priced Apple Vision.
Hmmm. I wonder why they didn’t include Clark Kent taking his gasses off. .. oh, wait…..
It's not quite the same. You see, when you watch a movie with Vision Pro, it's like going to the cinema, but way, way more expensive. And you can only do it alone.
Thoughtful and well-articulated answer, but I believe the concern is misdirected. Namely because content is addicting, not devices. Devices are just tools. As you said, people are already scrolling endlessly on their phones through social media when people are around them. MUCH harm comes from phones, so should we do away with them? And how much does it matter what device this is happening on and if people are looking down at a physical screen or up at a virtual screen? If anything, looking up in AR might even keep people more engaged with the world (maybe). I think people are lumping AR with VR. These concerns would be slightly more valid—not totally valid IMO because again devices are just tools which can be used or misused—if the VP was mainly a VR device, because VR takes you out of the world while AR does not. But there are good uses for VR too.
I believe these concerns are valid at the root but should be directed at social media companies whose business model is addiction, not devices created to open up more possibilities.
Edit- forgot to mention, EyeSight is critical to make this device usable around others. If he user’s attention isn’t observable by people around them, that is isolating. Same thing with wearing headphones around others. Isolation is good and necessary at times, but many times social interaction is good and necessary, so EyeSight is needed to make isolation just an optional feature, or else it will limit the healthy usage of the device. The question is whether or not Apple will get it to work well and if people will get over the weird look of it.
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So Apple Vision Pro is affordable, awesome!
A big part of my thinking on this is that affordable is relative. Someone might have the money to purchase something, it doesn’t mean it’s affordable in that they should probably not spend that money on something like a Vision Pro because of economic priorities. In the end, because of the nature of this launch product, I just don’t think affordable matters. Great stuff is gonna be done with this device, and in a couple/few years, it will expand. Looking forward to it.
They wanted floating monitors, big cinema screen, mixed reality stuff the Vision Pro has. Of course gaming as well, and I believe you can plug the Quest into a powerful computer if you wanted more demanding games. Understandably everything in the Quest will be less impressive as it cost just a fraction of the price of a Vision Pro and of course they would prefer the Vision but it's just out of their reach. I will get one once I read some real reviews but I'm honestly resisting and trying to wait for the second gen.
Well, I currently wouldn't let a child the age of the one you posted use VR for more than a couple minutes because their IPD is too small for current headsets and the headsets are too heavy.
Nothing. I've even bought a couple set for myself as an adult, such as a Mars rover.
I wasn't disconnected from others. I could talk to them as if they were in the room with me. They just look different (you can also sculpt your own mask in this app).
My family is pretty spread out, so I'm only able to be in the physical room with them about a week out of the year. VR can also be a way to connect with those far away. (But it can also be a great way to connect with those in the room)
Why does it have to be a competition? Two of those Lego sets are based on a video game that also lets people be creative.
Does that kid never watch movies? How is playing a creative sculpting app in VR worse or more dystopian or whatever?
Minecraft is staggeringly cool in VR, for the record. There's nothing like being inside the world you have created. I don't see the conflict/competition either.
We have all seen the videos.
1. That wasn't the point I was making. But feel free to modify my intention. My point was that 3D visualisations have the ability to create a more personal experience than a FaceTime.
2. I am not going to suggest what they currently have will be the end goal. Are you? Think about having live stream using stereoscopic cameras, like..you know... an iPhone 15 Pro, and a slim downed headset. Impossible? No. Likely? Hell yeah.
That makes no sense at all. In EVERY device the Pro has features not available to the base product. We do not need to list them. It's prima facie, especially on an Apple Forum?
Totally. There absolutely could be a lower version of the Vision Pro. They would be stupid to release that version first, when the entire idea is to bring something to market that has the potential and the ability to excite the developers and of course the users.
I don't get why people want to put down a device they have never picked up.
I appreciate you sharing that. Because it really puts things in perspective. APPLE IS NOT MAKING A VR GAMING HEADSET. They’re releasing their first version of what they call a spatial computer. It is a computer that blends digital elements onto imagery of the real world, used for entertainment, productivity, communication, gaming, everything. Obviously it will improve and expand with time. But Apple has no intention of making spatial computing some rinky dink VR headset propped up by novelties.
Sorry haters. It might be in its infancy, and it might be super expensive right now, but what Apple’s spatial computing will become is the next step in computing. And that’s why you’re all so upset! Enjoy ugly tennis on your Meta Quest ☺️
People want to reflexively put things down because they have a negative predisposition toward life. I doubt the only example of it in their lives is their attitude toward the Vision Pro. Some people just like to be negative. Other people don’t like to see success stories. Other people have no imagination. Other people just hate Apple (and a surprisingly large number of that type show up here…it’s odd). Respectful skepticism in one thing. But tune out the others. Waste of time.
Oh, it’s $3500 for a standalone 256GB SSD??
oh, what’s that? There’s a state of the art spatial computer attached to that SSD? Oh, huh…why didn’t you mention that?
I mean this is just factually incorrect. To say they didn’t demo ”much” in terms of use is just outright wrong (or worse). Seems like maybe you didn’t watch the announcement. If that’s the case, I bet you still commented on the articles 😉
Im glad you had a nice Christmas with your family. Building things is fun.
But there is no need to belittle someone who would give their child a mind-testing, creatively-oriented computer program to enjoy. That would be like telling someone they shouldn’t get their kid a coding game, because electronics are bad and they REALLY be building a Lego tower.
I agree that too often “analog” Activities are lost these days, but not all digital activities are wastes of time. The future is digital, let’s find a way to make it healthy and mind-expanding As opposed to the opposite.