Apple Shares New 'Simple as That' Ad in 'Privacy on iPhone' Series

[MacBH928]

This ad is misleading...
it gives the average consumer that he is safe if he uses an iPhone.

The truth is that you can install software from well respected and known official legal companies and all your data will be exposed (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Snapchat)

 

[Unity451]

That last shot starting at :37 is cool.

 

[citysnaps]

This ad is misleading...
it gives the average consumer that he is safe if he uses an iPhone.

The truth is that you can install software from well respected and known official legal companies and all your data will be exposed (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Snapchat)

Which apps will expose all of your data (assuming you don't give permission for them to do so)?

 

[exvi]

China. That's iPhone.

Privacy - Account Requests - Apple

www.apple.com

US government requests:

Requests Received
4,680
Device

960
Financial Identifier

2,669
Account

189
Emergency

Chinese government requests:
Requests Received
689
Device

95
Financial Identifier

42
Account

0
Emergency

 

[BGPL]

Why don’t more smart phone companies like Apple promote their security for their consumers? I ask, because it seems Apple strives well beyond to protect the consumer knowingly how much information is on _your_ phone. There’s a reason I stay loyal to Apple, privacy is a major one.

Just because Apple says your privacy is important doesn't mean it's true. That's just superior marketing. Apple is outstanding at taking away attention from their now average products. Tim is like a magician with sleight of hand, and he's very good at it.

 

[Tech198]

We trust tech too much...

Which apps will expose all of your data (assuming you don't give permission for them to do so)?

No one gave permission for TeenSafe to leak all those Apple ID's. It may not be the directly. but its connected from the app..

So who's the one that installed the app unknowingly ? users did. Not saying people should have a method of "before installing any app be aware that leaks will happen" and don't install, but no one thinks what *could* happen until it's too late either

Convenience always triumphs

 

[Glockworkorange]

Why don’t more smart phone companies like Apple promote their security for their consumers? I ask, because it seems Apple strives well beyond to protect the consumer knowingly how much information is on _your_ phone. There’s a reason I stay loyal to Apple, privacy is a major one.

I noticed the ad didn’t tell us just WHAT privacy benefits the iPhone gives you.

As a user and Apple Whore, I am well aware, but for the normies out there...this ad doesn’t really tell them anything.

 

[citysnaps]

We trust tech too much...




No one gave permission for TeenSafe to leak all those Apple ID's. It may not be the directly. but its connected from the app..

So who's the one that installed the app unknowingly ? users did. Not saying people should have a method of "before installing any app be aware that leaks will happen" and don't install, but no one thinks what *could* happen until it's too late either

Convenience always triumphs, and t shouldn't if privacy is a concern. As least from my point of view... You never see companies say "Dont trust us" That never happens. Why is that?

My question was with respect to the assertion by the author of the post I responded to: "The truth is that you can install software from well respected and known official legal companies and all your data will be exposed (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Snapchat)"

Perhaps you know the answer to my question, Which Apps?

 

[sparkso]

Except for China

 

[Dave-Z]

I do not have concrete information at this moment, but I suspect that Apple is today's Google. They look good now, but in a decade we'll see their true character.

In another thread here I pointed out that iOS devices on my network send vastly more information to Apple than Microsoft or Linux devices send to their respective manufacturers. As I manage all the devices on my network I can say that I have set, where possible, all devices to use local searches/data only, disabled syncing of any accounts/information, etc. Yet Apple devices consistently contact Apple servers and send copious amounts of data in comparison to other manufacturers.

This discovery, along with recent events like human contractors listening to Siri recordings, gives me pause. It should give anyone pause. Then there's the Podcasts and Books apps, which simply do not let you opt-out of analytics. Sure it's "anonymized" but what about the option to entirely opt out?

Everyone knows that physical access = full access. Yet at the demand of the Chinese government Apple moved all of their Chinese users' data to in-country, government run servers. We all know why. Apple could have taken a stand, but they did not.

Sorry, Apple, I just don't believe you. Thankfully time is an ally to truth. At some point I'll either be proven wrong (I hope so) or right.

 

[macfacts]

can any developer here or macrumors, answer this:
If I accept an app to access my photos, will they be able to download and see my photos from my iphone?

That's exactly what can happen. The app can upload your pictures without you knowing.

 

[Baymowe335]

I'm expecting some alternative evidence.

Give me some evidence a teapot isn’t orbiting Jupiter.

The burden of proof on the person making the ridiculous statement.

 

[Khedron]

1. Browse to apple.com/cn/cpc and log in with your party number
2. Fill in the name, email address, or phone number of the Apple user you want information for
3. Select "Device", "Account", "Financial", "Emergency", or "All of the above" for information desired
4. Click "Submit request" and Apple will comply as soon as possible

Simple As That.

 

[Jimmy James]

“Your heart rate after a run”? Who’s worried about that leaking?

 

[Braderunner]

“Your heart rate after a run”? Who’s worried about that leaking?

Not any one...who didn’t realize...that it went right over their head.

 

[Kabeyun]

Um..they are mining your information...

Please provide some literal example(s) how Apple is ‘mining’ my information to what extent. Be specific.

Don’t worry. He can’t. Apple makes money by selling stuff, not us.

 

[user_xyz]

With Google for Competition it's easy to be great on Privacy!!

 

[BWhaler]

Can’t say “it just works” anymore, so I guess will go with this tag line.

Snark aside, this is a powerful and important ad. Facebook and Google, et al. Are now claiming to champion privacy, but use dark pattern design to create complex interface labyrinths for people to protect themselves. Apple is noble in this cause, and is a role model for the industry.

Now Apple, fix the crappy keyboards and unforgivably buggy software so we can still enjoy this blanket of privacy. Tools need to work properly, a simply truth Apple has forgotten.

 

[Defthand]

If you want your Digital lifestyle's privacy to be respected, you need comprehensive data rights laws, not promises or assurances from Apple. As we've seen, Big Tech's EULA's contain a lot of fine print and non-specific language.

Btw, this excerpt from Joe Rogan's recent interview with Edward Snowden is educational. You think your anonymity and location is preserved? Think again...

 

[Jimmy Bubbles]

1. Browse to apple.com/cn/cpc and log in with your party number
2. Fill in the name, email address, or phone number of the Apple user you want information for
3. Select "Device", "Account", "Financial", "Emergency", or "All of the above" for information desired
4. Click "Submit request" and Apple will comply as soon as possible

Simple As That.

I went to that URL and got a "page not found".

 

[macfacts]

So hilarious! Post some evidence as to what extent any of Apple’s China decisions impact privacy.

Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human rights fears

When Apple Inc begins hosting Chinese users' iCloud accounts in a new Chinese data center at the end of this month to comply with new laws there, Chinese authorities will have far easier access to text messages, email and other data stored in the cloud.

www.reuters.com

Privacy and apple, so hilarious. Take some time to read the small print.

 

[I7guy]

Tim still letting apps track children?

Also, why can't I delete my location history from Apple Maps? I've only used it a few times but every place I searched is now undeletable from the recent places list. Bug, or another request from the Chinese Communist Party?
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If you use Apple News you agree to let them track your reading habits for their own advertising targeting.

There is nothing wrong with full disclosure opt-in. But what apps track children. How do they know they are tracking a child, without parents permission? Be specific.

 

[Dave-Z]

Um..they are mining your information...

Don’t worry. He can’t. Apple makes money by selling stuff, not us.

Mining data =/= selling us.

Apple can mine our data without making us the product.

 

[Khedron]

There is nothing wrong with full disclosure opt-in. But what apps track children. How do they know they are tracking a child, without parents permission? Be specific.

Keep up

Apple Delaying Plans to Limit Third-Party Tracking in Kids Apps

Apple is delaying its plans to limit third-party tracking and ads in apps designed for children, reports The Washington Post. The company's decision comes following an inquiry from The Washington Post about app developers who are unhappy with the changes and what it means for the way free...

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Mining data =/= selling us.

Apple can mine our data without making us the product.

Apple hardware is now a data mining exercise for the approximately 47 different subscriptions that Apple services want to sell you

 

[Baymowe335]

Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human rights fears

When Apple Inc begins hosting Chinese users' iCloud accounts in a new Chinese data center at the end of this month to comply with new laws there, Chinese authorities will have far easier access to text messages, email and other data stored in the cloud.

www.reuters.com

Privacy and apple, so hilarious. Take some time to read the small print.

You aren’t breaking news here...everyone knows this. Better to have no iCloud for Chinese users?

Complying with laws in China doesn’t impact a US user. If you’re a Chinese, you understand their government has a hell of a lot more control over you than just what’s on your iPhone. They will get whatever they want from you.