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Most android users I know are cheap in most aspects of their life, tech included.

The few that care most about tech are intrinsically attracted to the inconvenient ways of doing things.

Was that a subtle attempt to insult android users ?

Let me try to be mean like you - So per the apple ad above, apple products are simpler, so they attract mostly simple minded users :) Simple minded and mean, apparently.
 
Okay I'm not hating because if the ''cool'' thing to do here, but I genuinely only liked the 4th one. In the first one, it's like they are bashing their (hopefully) new customers. I understood the second one only after reading the explaining text (might be me haha) and the third one is especially weird and makes zero sense.

Funny, the commercials are confusing and unintuitive, just like iOS since 2013.
 
Be happy do so bud. Here you go. I did make one mistake however. It's from $99 not $150.
Boost.
https://www.boostmobile.com/phones?filters=phone-types:iphone&sortBy=featured
Cricket.
https://www.cricketwireless.com/cell-phones/smartphones

Outright. Off contract. Brand new.

Wow, just wow.

The hoops you'll jump through to try and prove you can buy an iPhone for cheap. Did you miss the part where I said unlocked as well? I suggest you read the Terms & Conditions if you think this is really a "no contract" device. In fact, I suggest you try and buy one WITHOUT setting up a plan. Or buying one, and cancelling your plan within 30 days and keeping the phone. I'd love to see how that works out for you.

iPhones are NOT SOLD for dirt cheap unless there's some sort of contract or plan you have to sign up for. That's a simple basic fact.
 
98% of Android users choose android phones because they are cheaper. No amount of cute advertising is going to change that.

98% eh? I’m 98% sure you 100% pulled that number from your ass.

Oh the arrogance of some. Just because others phones/computers/tablets/watches don’t have a shiny Apple logo on them, they’re grouped together as cheap.

I love my iPhone. Not because it’s “more expensive” (The Galaxy S8 series start off at $750, the iPhone 8 is $699... so much for cheaper?), but because iOS works for me.

Please stop making the rest of us look like pompous, self-entitled, elitists.
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Was that a subtle attempt to insult android users ?

Let me try to be mean like you - So per the apple ad above, apple products are simpler, so they attract mostly simple minded users :) Simple minded and mean, apparently.

Well said, my friend. Amazing what some people will do to insult others to make themselves feel better.
 
Wow, just wow.

The hoops you'll jump through to try and prove you can buy an iPhone for cheap. Did you miss the part where I said unlocked as well? I suggest you read the Terms & Conditions if you think this is really a "no contract" device. In fact, I suggest you try and buy one WITHOUT setting up a plan. Or buying one, and cancelling your plan within 30 days and keeping the phone. I'd love to see how that works out for you.

iPhones are NOT SOLD for dirt cheap unless there's some sort of contract or plan you have to sign up for. That's a simple basic fact.
You're funny and disingenuous. You asked me to show you an iPhone for $150 outright and off contract. That it. You asked nothing about it being unlocked. There's nothing in your previous quote about unlocked being a criteria. Literally everything you wrote about buying from an MVNO is completely wrong. You just created a counter argument hoping something in it would be relevant. It's pretty clear you have no clue how their services work.

Anyone in the US can go online or walk into a store and purchase an iPhone from Boost for $99 and they own the phone outright. Fact.
 
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Wow, just wow.

The hoops you'll jump through to try and prove you can buy an iPhone for cheap. Did you miss the part where I said unlocked as well? I suggest you read the Terms & Conditions if you think this is really a "no contract" device. In fact, I suggest you try and buy one WITHOUT setting up a plan. Or buying one, and cancelling your plan within 30 days and keeping the phone. I'd love to see how that works out for you.

iPhones are NOT SOLD for dirt cheap unless there's some sort of contract or plan you have to sign up for. That's a simple basic fact.

What's wrong with cheap iPhones? People love them on Slickdeals and it means more people to buy apps to support developers. Crickett had iPhone SE for $99 unlocked after one month of $55 service.

https://slickdeals.net/f/10973695-c...32gb-prepaid-99-require-1-month-service-99-99

For smart consumers, there's really not much difference between a $99 iPhone vs $999 iPhone or $50 Android vs $999 iPhone for core usage such as talk, text, navigation, consumption, etc.
 
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You're funny and disingenuous. You asked me to show you an iPhone for $150 outright and off contract. That it. You asked nothing about it being unlocked. There's nothing in your previous quote about unlocked being a criteria. Literally everything you wrote about buying from an MVNO is completely wrong. You just created a counter argument hoping something in it would be relevant. It's pretty clear you have no clue how their services work.

Anyone in the US can go online or walk into a store and purchase an iPhone from Boost for $99 and they own the phone outright. Fact.

“I bought one a couple months ago for $65 brand new, off contract, unlocked and full retail (not even on sale). This is the reality of Android. Mostly cheap junk phones with a few flagships thrown in.”

Looks like I mentioned unlocked. Oops again.

The cheapest iPhone you can buy retails for $349. Fact. Companies selling iPhones at reduced prices to hook you into using their services doesn’t change the fact the cheapest iPhone is $349. Apple still gets paid regular price for that iPhone regardless of what deals a retailer or carrier might offfer.

There are a slew of Android Phones that retail for $50-100. Especially outside the US. Samsung, the most successful Android vendor, primarily sells $50-100 phones. To the tune of 3-4 for every Galaxy S or Note. That’s why their ASP is barely $250 while Apple is almost $800.

Don’t you just love math? It doesn’t lie.
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What's wrong with cheap iPhones? People love them on Slickdeals and it means more people to buy apps to support developers. Crickett had iPhone SE for $99 unlocked after one month of $55 service.

https://slickdeals.net/f/10973695-c...32gb-prepaid-99-require-1-month-service-99-99

For smart consumers, there's really not much difference between a $99 iPhone vs $999 iPhone or $50 Android vs $999 iPhone for core usage such as talk, text, navigation, consumption, etc.

Way to miss the point. Most Android phones sold worldwide are junk phones in the $50-100 range. That’s full retail off contract price. iPhones sell for $349-1149.

Bringing up carrier deals is pointless when talking about the actual retail price of a device.
 
“I bought one a couple months ago for $65 brand new, off contract, unlocked and full retail (not even on sale). This is the reality of Android. Mostly cheap junk phones with a few flagships thrown in.”
Nice try. I didn't say you didn't mention unlocked. I said you never asked for it as criteria of that $150 phone you didn't think I could produce. Conveniently you left off the part of your quote where you actually asked me to provide proof of a $150 iPhone. That's okay, I'll go get it for you.;)

Looks like I mentioned unlocked. Oops again.
Yep. You did. It wasn't "mentioned in the question though. "No they don’t. Show me any iPhone for $150. Outright off-contract price." - deanthedev You asked for an off contract $150 iPhone. I gave you one. Plain and simple.

The cheapest iPhone you can buy retails for $349. Fact. Companies selling iPhones at reduced prices to hook you into using their services doesn’t change the fact the cheapest iPhone is $349. Apple still gets paid regular price for that iPhone regardless of what deals a retailer or carrier might offfer.
No the cheapest iPhone you can buy retail - Boost has retail store by the way. Just in case you thought that little detail escaped my attention. - is the $99 iPhone SE. That is a verifiable fact. You, deanthedev, can walk into any Boost - when in America - and purchase that SE for $99 or a 6 for $179 or any of the other iPhones they sell... all the way up to the X for $899. Apple getting paid their regular price doesn't change the fact that you, deanthedev, can purchase an iPhone for $99. No amount of equivocating is going to change that. So $349 is not the cheapest iPhone you can get or are you saying that you can't walk into a Boost store and purchase an iPhone for $99 bucks?

Outside of paying your first bill when you buy the phone, there are no services to hook you. You can never pay another bill again and the phone remains yours. You paid for it.

There are a slew of Android Phones that retail for $50-100. Especially outside the US. Samsung, the most successful Android vendor, primarily sells $50-100 phones. To the tune of 3-4 for every Galaxy S or Note. That’s why their ASP is barely $250 while Apple is almost $800.
Are you still trying to deflect back to this? It has nothing to do with the cheap iPhones you can get in America.

Don’t you just love math? It doesn’t lie.
You're right it doesn't lie and it says you, me, or anyone near a Boost store can get an iPhone for $99.
 
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Nice try. I didn't say you didn't mention unlocked. I said you never asked for it as criteria of that $150 phone you didn't think I could produce. Conveniently you left off the part of your quote where you actually asked me to provide proof of a $150 iPhone. That's okay, I'll go get it for you.;)


Yep. You did. It wasn't "mentioned in the question though. "No they don’t. Show me any iPhone for $150. Outright off-contract price." - deanthedev You asked for an off contract $150 iPhone. I gave you one. Plain and simple.


No the cheapest iPhone you can buy retail - Boost has retail store by the way. Just in case you thought that little detail escaped my attention. - is the $99 iPhone SE. That is a verifiable fact. You, deanthedev, can walk into any Boost - when in America - and purchase that SE for $99 or a 6 for $179 or any of the other iPhones they sell... all the way up to the X for $899. Apple getting paid their regular price doesn't change the fact that you, deanthedev, can purchase an iPhone for $99. No amount of equivocating is going to change that. So $349 is not the cheapest iPhone you can get or are you saying that you can't walk into a Boost store and purchase an iPhone for $99 bucks?

Outside of paying your first bill when you buy the phone, there are no services to hook you. You can never pay another bill again and the phone remains yours. You paid for it.


Are you still trying to deflect back to this? It has nothing to do with the cheap iPhones you can get in America.


You're right it doesn't lie and it says you, me, or anyone near a Boost store can get an iPhone for $99.

That’s a lot of typing to say nothing. As is typical with your posts you’re again trying to change the narrative. In this case comparing a retail price of a device as outlined by the manufacturer to a “retail” price as part of an offer by a carrier. I’m not really sure why you’re having trouble understanding the difference.

And my comment about “math not lying” is about the fact Android is primarily made up of cheap low-end phones, not about your mixed up definition of “retail price”. Seems all you’re really interested in is picking a fight over nothing.
 
98% of Android users choose android phones because they are cheaper. No amount of cute advertising is going to change that.

Samsung Galaxy S9: $720
Samsung Note 8: $950
Google Pixel 2 XL: $850
Moto Z2 Force: $720
LG V30: $750

Compare that with the original iPhone retailing for $600, which everyone balked at. Why anyone would consider it a benefit to pay more for a phone ought to think about that for a minute.

No one in general is going to switch phones because of some vague post-modern portrait film commercials. Apple should focus on what makes them unique and valuable.
  • iMessage
  • "You're not the product" / lack of data gathering
  • Only ones still making one-handed phones (especially the SE)
  • Longevity (my boss switched from an iPhone 5s to the X recently; that's 4 years worth of use).
  • Plethora of accessories
  • Works together with iPad and Mac
Bring back Justin Long and John Hodgeman. They can do "I'm an iPhone / I'm an Android". :)
 
Numbers say it's very compelling.

Normalized for a 14 week quarter, Apple sold 83M iphones at almost $800 each and continues to have the highest loyalty in the business (over 90% buy another iPhone).

Except most of the world is on android, and North America is one of the last hold outs for iPhones.

Plus, those loyalty stats were of the past. Loyalty under Tim Cook has certaintly dropped.

Personal, Tim can keep his iPhone with Siri, just can’t stand how far they have fallen behind.
 
Except most of the world is on android, and North America is one of the last hold outs for iPhones.

Plus, those loyalty stats were of the past. Loyalty under Tim Cook has certaintly dropped.

Personal, Tim can keep his iPhone with Siri, just can’t stand how far they have fallen behind.
Post numbers or you’re riffing. Loyalty was at an all time high according to Apple in May 2016. They mentioned something similar in the last couple quarters.

Regarding North America being the last holdout, just lol.

North America isn’t even the biggest revenue driver for Apple. Since the group North and South America, it’s estimated over 60% of Apple revenue is out of the states. Have you seen Japan, the UK, or even Urban China? iPhone and Apple in general are killing it.

Tim Cook: “In Urban China and the U.S., the top five smartphones last quarter were all iPhones. And in Japan and the UK, six of the top seven were iPhones.”

Apple is a lot more successful today than ever before.
 
That’s a lot of typing to say nothing. As is typical with your posts you’re again trying to change the narrative. In this case comparing a retail price of a device as outlined by the manufacturer to a “retail” price as part of an offer by a carrier. I’m not really sure why you’re having trouble understanding the difference.

And my comment about “math not lying” is about the fact Android is primarily made up of cheap low-end phones, not about your mixed up definition of “retail price”. Seems all you’re really interested in is picking a fight over nothing.
You're right. What was I thinking.
 
Okay I'm not hating because if the ''cool'' thing to do here, but I genuinely only liked the 4th one. In the first one, it's like they are bashing their (hopefully) new customers. I understood the second one only after reading the explaining text (might be me haha) and the third one is especially weird and makes zero sense.
You're kidding me, right? Pixel xl, S8, Note 8 are about the same price of the iPhone 8/X. I pick pixel because of the camera, battery life, and stock Android.
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Most android users I know are cheap in most aspects of their life, tech included.

The few that care most about tech are intrinsically attracted to the inconvenient ways of doing things.
I know 4 co-workers who own iPhone X, but ride the bus to work because they cant afford a car. So who's cheap now?
 
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I cannot save a picture of someone in browser to downloads and add that into the Contact photo ...
- by drag and drop,
- forced when using the "+" Add icon in Contacts ... I'm FORCED to only look in Photos to add a contact picture?!

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98% of Android users choose android phones because they are cheaper. No amount of cute advertising is going to change that.

Do you honestly believe that? Of all my friends I'm the only one who still uses an iPhone, they all have flagships of various brands, none are much different in price to Apple's flagships (pre X at least), they use them because they prefer them.

I don't own an iPhone X, not because it's expensive, but because I don't like large and unwieldy phones. The smugness and self-perceived superiority of some iPhone users is what gives the rest a bad name.
 
Nice little videos and interesting that Apple feel the need to try and lure Android users to them - it suggests they're slightly concerned about the high numbers of Android users compared to iPhone.

My problem with the videos is that they don't show any reasons to switch, they just show that it's easy to switch (and it's just as easy to switch from iPhone to Android). They don't focus on things the iPhone can do that Android cannot - but I suspect that's because there isn't anything iPhones can do that Android phones cannot.
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98% of Android users choose android phones because they are cheaper.

Is this an actual stat or just your own presumption? I'd be surprised if that's true. If it were true, all Apple would have to do is reduce their price and Android would be finished as Apple would have a near monopoly on the smartphone market as 98% of Android users switched.

I have no problem affording an iPhone, but I much prefer Android.
 
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I'm no troll ... how do I screen record in High Sierra and I'll try what you've done in the mid-morning.

PS: Hilarious picture of ... what's the rappers name again? Didn't he do that teacher high-school movie with Michelle Pfiffer? Gangster's Paradise? Coolio muahaha LMAO sad.

Thanks.
 
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These are some of the best commercials I’ve seen from Apple in a long time. Short, get the message across and somewhat funny. (Really liked the environment one).

None of the random people dancing around the street with no connection as to ‘why’ you should get and iPhone.
 
These are some of the best commercials I’ve seen from Apple in a long time. Short, get the message across and somewhat funny. (Really liked the environment one).

None of the random people dancing around the street with no connection as to ‘why’ you should get and iPhone.

Don’t y’all get it? /s ;)
There is no “why?” necessary anymore. That would require words, concepts, intellectual understandings.

Apple’s general promotions are all about feelings, music, self-realization, self-gratification.

Those of us who want “reasons” will find those on the Apple.com pages.

Words take time—floaty-person picture is worth a thousand words in advertising.
 
This is like saying: "I would instantly buy an SUV if its tires could work on all my other vehicles."

Actually: What you are asking for is something WhatsApp would be responsible to implement and not Apple.

So? The second question when using the app move to iOS is about what about WhatsApp messages. Apple could ask WhatsApp to do a tool for that or something.

Moving from iOS to android a lot easier and even with WhatsApp -messages. You just fetch the database -file from the iPhone backup -> move it to Android -phone's mass storage -> use a legit app to translate it to a WhatsApp Android -backup -> install WhatsApp on Android -> return the backup from phone's mass storage.

On iOS? Not a chance..

Of course this is not a deal breaker to so many people. But some won't change from iOS to Android because of the iMessage. Of course there is an app for iMessage on Android, but I don't how well does it work.
 
I've had poor and good luck with both. I will say Android has been better for me the last few years. I buy about 3-4 Android phones a year and they are just as easy as your iCloud backup (never done it myself) honestly, sign in and everything starts going and it's exactly how all the other phones look and no signing in to individual apps. I don't like that when I buy a new iPhone I am forced to update both phones to the same iOS version in order to get the new one to restore that's been my biggest gripe with getting a couple a year.

I must be doing something wrong then. I just bought my girl an Ocean Depths Essential PH-1 to replace her bunk LG G4 and when she signed in, nothing started autoinstalling. I had to manually pull down all of her apps and arrange them as she liked them (she was working on a paper, so I offered. She's not tech-illiterate.).
 
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