Apple Shares New Videos Highlighting What You Can Do With an iPad Pro

[MacBH928]

The difference between Jobs and Tim is the following:

1-Jobs create something so good he makes you want to buy it.

2-Tim creates something and he tries so hard to make you buy it.

Tim has an iPad, he wants you to buy it, so he tries his best.
I don't blame Tim since this is the common thought between bean counter CEOs. It was Job that was different and gave Apple its own identity away from the "big corporate" image. Its what makes Apple, Apple.

They make technology that makes your life easier. They don't create technology and force it on you-like Windows '98 or -the touchbar!

 

[SteveJUAE]

Taking notes in Notability is sure nicer than doing it on a Mac or PC. Trying out furntiture in AR and measuring the space certainly can’t be done with a laptop. And making a keynote presentation with drag & drop is fun and easy. .

It's a good job that there is Grumpy people here as you like to call them to correct your false hoods and subjective opinions (above) that you gladly correct others on

There are just a relatively small % by Apples own metrics of "Pro" users of MAC's/MBP's etc so IPP "Pro"would not even show up on the radar, despite what you may wish to imply otherwise

The IPP is one of the smartest dumb things out there are users like Abazigal have found good use and so will others but for most it's a premium entertainment device 1st and can do some other bits, sometimes to varying degrees of competency

 

[Zdigital2015]

This is great, but you can do all this stuff with the budget iPad as well.
Apple need to start delivering on this "Pro" moniker and release some "Pro" apps which actually take advantage of the power of the device (and price tag).

Agreed...I hope that Apple is working feverishly on both Logic Express and Final Cut Express for iPad that help those who are hamstrung by iMovie and GarageBand on iOS. That being said, there are also Apps that iOS users can take advantage of to move beyond Apple’s, such as Luma Fusion, Auria, Ferrite, etc. I do think Apple can provide iOS versions of Logic and Final Cut without destroying the third party ecosystem that is flourishing on iOS, so their strategy may be to wait to allow those categories to grow without killing them before they can get established.

Although, the iPad Pro’s camera may never replace a true video camera or a DSLR for 4K video, I can see a time where users capture video, import it over to their iPad, begin rough-cutting in Final Cut Express and then transition to Final Cut Pro X on a Mac in the studio. There are still a lot of variables to consider and pain along the way, but Apple is clearly heading in that direction. The flip side is that it is frustrating to see how powerful the iPad Pro is, but that Apple did not have one of its own apps ready to even be demonstrated during the Event in October, which was disappointing to me. Showcasing the iPad Pro’s CPU and GPU horsepower with Adobe Photoshop and a video game, but not one of your own Apps was just a complete fail, IMHO.

Hopefully, iOS 13 and iOS versions of Logic and Final Cut are in the cards come WWDC 2019.

 

[citysnaps]

It's short for "Profit margin"

I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know what "Pro" is really is short for.

Seems many here don't know.

 

[Fender2112]

How about a video that shows what you can do with the new Mac Pro.

 

[WilliamG]

I would say that for a device that I will be using for multiple hours a day, every day, I am most certainly not going to stinge on specs. Everything is just nicer. Spec out an iPad to 128gb and add 4g and it doesn't really cost all that much less than a 256gb iPad Pro anyways. For something I expect to use for the next 3 years, the savings just doesn't feel all that significant.

And I continue to be amused by people who suggest that I might have been better off with a Chromebook. I walk around the classroom with my iPad, which is mirrored to my class projector via an Apple TV. I most certainly am not going to do that with a Chromebook. How do you suggest I annotate on pdfs, or scan documents? And let me just say that I will pick keynote for iPad over powerpoint any time of the day.

Also, the funny thing is that our school has no visualisers (due to our principal wanting to "force" teachers to make use of the interactive whiteboards), so plain pencil and paper wouldn't have been feasible anyways.

Likewise, I use my iPad for entertainment as well. I just finished playing Grimvalor, and it looks awesome on the iPad.

I just can't think of a more versatile device for both work and leisure.

Wait, so now you need an iPad Pro AND an Apple TV, and the special app for copying and pasting. Anything else?

Bottom line is you’re never going to convince most of us that the iPad Pro is better than a laptop for again - most of us. As my original thesis stated, for some people absolutely it can be their main work device. For the majority, no chance.

As a photographer it’s useless to me, for example.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Wait, so now you need an iPad Pro AND an Apple TV, and the special app for copying and pasting. Anything else?

Bottom line is you’re never going to convince most of us that the iPad Pro is better than a laptop for again - most of us. As my original thesis stated, for some people absolutely it can be their main work device. For the majority, no chance.

As a photographer it’s useless to me, for example.

Why is it useless to you? The reason I ask is because where there are gaps in what the iPad Pro and iOS can do and what developers and entrepreneurs can create solutions is how the iPad moves forward. If it is specialized Photoshop filters and Plug-ins, then I get it. Just curious about what specifically makes it useless to you and your workflow?

 

[WilliamG]

Why is it useless to you? The reason I ask is because where there are gaps in what the iPad Pro and iOS can do and what developers and entrepreneurs can create solutions is how the iPad moves forward. If it is specialized Photoshop filters and Plug-ins, then I get it. Just curious about what specifically makes it useless to you and your workflow?

Because I use Lightroom (non-subscription model). Because the resolution is not high enough. Because I can’t connect it to a 5K display and work on it. Because there’s not enough internal storage without spending a fortune. Because I can’t attach an SSD/HD to it. Because a touch screen can’t replace a mouse.

Those are at least some of the reasons.

 

[Marx55]

Apple should release a Mac tablet. iOS is a limited jailed-sandboxed toy without an accesible file system and lacking USB port among other shocking limitations.

 

[Mainsail]

People need to remember that they are not necessarily the target market for the advertisement. The members here tend to be more tech-savvy, and more comfortable with complexity and power.

What the ipad brings to the market is the ability to streamline all these otherwise complex tasks for the normal everyday person.

I can share a personal anecdote of how I had fun with my iPad Pro at work this week. As a teacher, I was tasked with creating a roster of the students in my form class, complete with names and mugshots.

So what I did was use my ipad to take photos of each of my 40 students, crop them in the photos app, then insert them one by one into the supplied PowerPoint template. This last step was made easier by the use of split-screen (PowerPoint and photos running side-by-side) and drag-and-drop.

Finally, export it as a pdf to Dropbox, and emailing the final file (over 50 mb) to my year head using mail drop in the stock mail app.

It’s not an exactly complicated task, but there are numerous steps involved, and it’s ultimately easier when you are able to do it all on one device, compared to fiddling with a smartphone and laptop. Already, I see my colleagues struggling to import their photos to their work-issued windows laptop, or resorting to emailing the photos to themselves or uploading to google photos (which is still an extra step).

That’s what the ipad represents - an integrated solution which just works right out of the box.

I agree. I think the iPad (both base and Pro models) is really for people that are looking for a simple solution to everyday tasks. The "Pro" moniker is kind of unfortunate and somewhat misleading. Anyway, there are some things the iPad does very well; reading/annotating documents, taking handwritten notes, ebooks, drawing and sketching, etc.. It does an acceptable job of running traditional productivity Apps (iWorks & Office) if you do not need the more advanced features (e.g. pivot tables in Excel...). A lot of people don't need these features, so they can be productive on an iPad. One other thing, the ability to handle multiple windows is basically limited to split screen with two apps, and you can't have two documents from the same App open side by side. This is a show stopper for some people that need to work with multiple documents and data. But, some folks rarely find themselves in this situation, and there are some inelegant work arounds if you run into the need.

 

[WilliamG]

I agree. I think the iPad (both base and Pro models) is really for people that are looking for a simple solution to everyday tasks. The "Pro" moniker is kind of unfortunate and somewhat misleading. Anyway, there are some things the iPad does very well; reading/annotating documents, taking handwritten notes, ebooks, drawing and sketching, etc.. It does an acceptable job of running traditional productivity Apps (iWorks & Office) if you do not need the more advanced features (e.g. pivot tables in Excel...). A lot of people don't need these features, so they can be productive on an iPad. One other thing, the ability to handle multiple windows is basically limited to split screen with two apps, and you can't have two documents from the same App open side by side. This is a show stopper for some people that need to work with multiple documents and data. But, some folks rarely find themselves in this situation, and there are some inelegant work arounds if you run into the need.

That sums up the iPad Pro perfectly. “Workaround.” Pretty much everything I personally would want to do on it professionally requires a workaround.

Which is why I love my iPad Pro as the casual computing device it is to me, and use my real Mac for the real work.

 

[Altis]

The iPad is certainly a very nice piece of hardware that's good at doing certain tasks.

However, there are many tasks where it becomes impractical, inefficient, or impossible to use compared with a laptop/desktop. And it really doesn't take much to reach these limitations when trying to use as such -- could be as simple as trying to get a web page to work properly.

Just another tool in the arsenal, but there's a reason that I can count on my hand how many iPads I've seen on a 25k student campus in 2.5 years.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Apple should release a Mac tablet. iOS is a limited jailed-sandboxed toy without an accesible file system and lacking USB port among other shocking limitations.

macOS is not optimized for touch and I do not see Apple changing course on that.

Hopefully, iOS 13 will give us a way to use external storage.

The 2018 iPad Pro has a USB-C port and Lightning-equipped iPads can have one by using a USB-to-Lightning adapter to attach USB devices, where compatible.

 

[Marekul]

I am not a fashionista and I like and use Apple products for my work. Was that comment supposed to diminish my professional work?

I am also not a fashionista and still like to do my work on a mac.
But with the direction apple is going i am forced to switch to Linux. Not because of the software but because of where hardware is going with Features, usability and pricing.

And no that comment has nothing to do with your professional work. It is about professional computer work.

 

[rowspaxe]

I use the copied app. It reimagines the clipboard management workflow and can actually speed up the process in the right scenarios.

Sorry, but this is the problem
[doublepost=1547920555][/doublepost]The ipad pro...a computer for the rest of ... them

 

[citysnaps]

I continue to be amazed how so many people think that because an iPad doesn't meet their needs for a computing device, then it can't possibly meet the computing needs of many of Apple's customer base. That's very narcissistic.

Not everyone in Apple's extremely broad customer base needs to run Photoshop, MATLAB, FCP-X, Maschine, Autocad, Mathematica, Maya, Lightroom, etc, etc.

Rather, Apple's customer base is very diverse. Many just need a device that can be used to send and receive email, surf the web, manage an appointment calendar with reminders, write some letters/notes, read a book, watch an occasional movie, edit and manage some photos, put together a home budget spreadsheet, edit a home movie with iMovie, plan a trip, listen to music, manage a contacts address book, read some pdf documents, listen to a podcast, send and receive some messages, play some games, watch the news, do some calculations, check the weather, engage their home automation setup, make some sketches, and on and on and on.

And for those many many Apple customers...an iPad meets their needs, is easy to engage and use, is relatively compact, and is an ideal computer.

 

[aevan]

I am also not a fashionista and still like to do my work on a mac.
But with the direction apple is going i am forced to switch to Linux. Not because of the software but because of where hardware is going with Features, usability and pricing.

And no that comment has nothing to do with your professional work. It is about professional computer work.

I do my professional work on computers. Please, define “professional computer work” to me.
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It's a good job that there is Grumpy people here as you like to call them to correct your false hoods and subjective opinions (above) that you gladly correct others on

There are just a relatively small % by Apples own metrics of "Pro" users of MAC's/MBP's etc so IPP "Pro"would not even show up on the radar, despite what you may wish to imply otherwise

The IPP is one of the smartest dumb things out there are users like Abazigal have found good use and so will others but for most it's a premium entertainment device 1st and can do some other bits, sometimes to varying degrees of competency

I offer arguments and proof (people actually doing professional work on iPads) but there is always someone who counters that with “you’re just wrong because I say so”. So, let me respond in the same way by saying you’re simply not correct.
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The difference between Jobs and Tim is the following:

1-Jobs create something so good he makes you want to buy it.

2-Tim creates something and he tries so hard to make you buy it.

Considering the negative things people say about Apple haven’t changed one bit and were exactly the same while Jobs was alive (everything from prices, thinness and features to quality issues, profit margins and design choices), and combining that with the fact that Apple keeps growing under Cook and sets records, I will conclude that this statement is completely false.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I continue to be amazed how so many people think that because an iPad doesn't meet their needs for a computing device, then it can't possibly meet the computing needs of many of Apple's customer base. That's very narcissistic.

Not everyone in Apple's extremely broad customer base needs to run Photoshop, MATLAB, FCP-X, Maschine, Autocad, Mathematica, Maya, Lightroom, etc, etc.

Rather, Apple's customer base is very diverse. Many just need a device that can be used to send and receive email, surf the web, manage an appointment calendar with reminders, write some letters/notes, read a book, watch an occasional movie, edit and manage some photos, put together a home budget spreadsheet, edit a home movie with iMovie, plan a trip, listen to music, manage a contacts address book, read some pdf documents, listen to a podcast, send and receive some messages, play some games, watch the news, do some calculations, check the weather, engage their home automation setup, make some sketches, and on and on and on.

And for those many many Apple customers...an iPad meets their needs, is easy to engage and use, is relatively compact, and is an ideal computer.

You are always so very wrong. If Apple says "we want to meet the needs of the people that just have mild computing needs (which is a thing) then you can't come out and say "best processor ever" (
which is a thing apperently people need)

 

[aevan]

You are always so very wrong. If Apple says "we want to meet the needs of the people that just have mild computing needs (which is a thing) then you can't come out and say "best processor ever" (
which is a thing apperently people need)

Best processor ever is just as useful for things you can do on iPad and required for 120hz drawing, AR, machine learning, photo manipulation, etc. Are you saying only those who have specific computing needs deserve the ‘best processor ever’?

 

[avkills]

Said this in another thread, and it probably was mentioned already. But why on earth would you make something like an iPad Pro and Pencil and not support using it as an external display as a drawing tablet? Like a Cintiq. That is such a no brainer that everyone on the iPad team should be horse whipped in public.

 

[gugy]

I think I found it. It’s probably Shoeboxed:
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/shoeboxed-receipt-tracker/id322143854?mt=8

Thanks

Too bad it is Shoeboxed. I hate subscription services. I was hopping pay once and get over with.

 

[Glockworkorange]

It's short for "Profit margin"

Yeah, just an excuse to gouge. Again, the iPad was always meant to be a "third device." I always kind of chuckle when I see the Apple Internet publish "how to guides" with the iPad (I am thinking of Federico Vittici) with just insane and hacky work arounds to perform very simple things. Dude, pick up a laptop---you'll save hours.

These same people also get all huffy and angry if you tell them life is easier with a laptop. They say "but that's not what I WANT TO DO--how dare you criticize the WAY I WORK" as they bang their wooden spoons on their high chairs.

Like trying to use a hammer to unscrew something.

Don't get me wrong--I love my iPad Pro. But the idea of this as a "pro" machine doesn't really jive with me.

 

[curtvaughan]

I do my professional work on computers. Please, define “professional computer work” to me.
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I offer arguments and proof (people actually doing professional work on iPads) but there is always someone who counters that with “you’re just wrong because I say so”. So, let me respond in the same way by saying you’re simply not correct.
[doublepost=1547921269][/doublepost]

Considering the negative things people say about Apple haven’t changed one bit and were exactly the same while Jobs was alive (everything from prices, thinness and features to quality issues, profit margins and design choices), and combining that with the fact that Apple keeps growing under Cook and sets records, I will conclude that this statement is completely false.

Can't speak to most of the negatives I experienced with Apple while Jobs was around, as there weren't any that I can remember. Yes, there was always an Apple "tax" for Macs, but the ones I owned had high enough quality vs. PC's of the day that the price seemed worth it. I never complained about "thinness" with the MBP. It was still thick enough to support the ports I needed and my favorite even still had an easily replaceable and user removable battery. Apple stopped making iPhones for people like me when they dropped the headphone jack, and I could no longer use high quality wired headphones with their phones. They've now done the same thing with the iPad - my 2017 model will likely be my last. I still have a 2017 iMac as well, though the later models have had cooling issues (which could be easily rectified if they provided a hardware mod to make vacuuming simpler to accomplish). If Cook is setting records, then good for him. It certainly isn't because of my support of his company's recent products. In the same way I see people on this forum make light of the arrogance of someone like Balmer when MS was king of the hill, it may one day come back to haunt Apple, as its arrogance is just as pronounced of late. Apple has alienated a large plurality of its long time Mac customers, having allowed the Mac lines to largely stagnate over the last 5 or 6 years, both with hardware and software. Its primary profit comes from iPhones, and it remains to be seen if they can continue reliance on that product alone for success. All I can now say is that they've lost me now in all offerings but the iMac, but I'm only one formerly loyal customer.

 

[artfossil]

People need to remember that they are not necessarily the target market for the advertisement. The members here tend to be more tech-savvy, and more comfortable with complexity and power.

What the ipad brings to the market is the ability to streamline all these otherwise complex tasks for the normal everyday person.

I can share a personal anecdote of how I had fun with my iPad Pro at work this week. As a teacher, I was tasked with creating a roster of the students in my form class, complete with names and mugshots.

So what I did was use my ipad to take photos of each of my 40 students, crop them in the photos app, then insert them one by one into the supplied PowerPoint template. This last step was made easier by the use of split-screen (PowerPoint and photos running side-by-side) and drag-and-drop.

Finally, export it as a pdf to Dropbox, and emailing the final file (over 50 mb) to my year head using mail drop in the stock mail app.

It’s not an exactly complicated task, but there are numerous steps involved, and it’s ultimately easier when you are able to do it all on one device, compared to fiddling with a smartphone and laptop. Already, I see my colleagues struggling to import their photos to their work-issued windows laptop, or resorting to emailing the photos to themselves or uploading to google photos (which is still an extra step).

That’s what the ipad represents - an integrated solution which just works right out of the box.

Or even easier--there are custom attendance apps for the iPad. You can import your roster from a Mail list or other data set, and then take the student photos from within the app. They are automatically cropped to headshots.

What's more, you can email missing students from within the app. Very useful for "nasty grams" for absent students.

The iPad Pro made my university teaching easier and more effective.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Best processor ever is just as useful for things you can do on iPad and required for 120hz drawing, AR, machine learning, photo manipulation, etc. Are you saying only those who have specific computing needs deserve the ‘best processor ever’?

If more basic need less than YES