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I love how they always show these super basic tasks and think its a computer replacement. Writing a word, adding a picuture etc. is not really PRO nor doesn't show how really "computer replacement" it really is. As mentioned, all that could be done on budget iPad.

Maybe Apple is targeting grandmas and grandpas :-D
It is a legit replacement for the majority as long as they are not heavy coders. I do not bring my macbook unless I need to code a lot.
 
I’ll echo some of the other comments here. Apple need to take a step back and review what the word “Pro” actually means. For the iPad there isn’t much meaning. Other than the pencil, they’re not really that different. For the computers, it means maybe ports, better hardware, graphics, bigger screens (17” cough cough”), workflows that the non Pro models could do, but not as well.

The Pro word for Apple is nothing more than a reason to sell it for more money. Which of course they’re entitled to do, but the range of products doesn’t show a distinct line between them, of what they can and can’t do.
 
You are always so very wrong. If Apple says "we want to meet the needs of the people that just have mild computing needs (which is a thing) then you can't come out and say "best processor ever" (
which is a thing apperently people need)

Nice straw man. Apple isn’t saying that at all. And my post wasn’t either.

Try and think beyond yourself. It’s not always just about you and your needs.

Also...think a bit about what a very diverse customer base means.
 
Feel free to use mine too, Apple. :)

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Came here to say the iPad in the video is perfectly flat unlike in real life, but this animation is hysterical.
 
I continue to be amazed how so many people think that because an iPad doesn't meet their needs for a computing device, then it can't possibly meet the computing needs of many of Apple's customer base. That's very narcissistic.

Not everyone in Apple's extremely broad customer base needs to run Photoshop, MATLAB, FCP-X, Maschine, Autocad, Mathematica, Maya, Lightroom, etc, etc.

Rather, Apple's customer base is very diverse. Many just need a device that can be used to send and receive email, surf the web, manage an appointment calendar with reminders, write some letters/notes, read a book, watch an occasional movie, edit and manage some photos, put together a home budget spreadsheet, edit a home movie with iMovie, plan a trip, listen to music, manage a contacts address book, read some pdf documents, listen to a podcast, send and receive some messages, play some games, watch the news, do some calculations, check the weather, engage their home automation setup, make some sketches, and on and on and on.

And for those many many Apple customers...an iPad meets their needs, is easy to engage and use, is relatively compact, and is an ideal computer.

Wishful thinking of a salesman ...
 
I offer arguments and proof (people actually doing professional work on iPads) but there is always someone who counters that with “you’re just wrong because I say so”. So, let me respond in the same way by saying you’re simply not correct.

Sorry if Apple own metrics are not good enough for you then I am simple at a loss, its not because I say so, Apple did :rolleyes:

Maybe you think Apple got it wrong and your simple observations are right :D

FYI You can run little apps that scale photos place furniture in AR on any good W10 laptop/2 in 1/etc as Android and Windows do not have the same constraints as IOS :rolleyes:

If you do not wish to believe Apple or the real world capabilities of other platforms then my only tip for you is that beats headphones fit over your ears LOL
 
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My new iPad Pro 11 suffered from spontaneous Display Screen Crack. No impact, no fall, no bend. Out of nowhere a hairline in from edge to edge in a corner. Luckily in the first 2 weeks, so i just return it. Anyone else noticing such strange damage?

I had the same thing, I though someone mus5 have knocked it off a counter or something and not told me. Mine was less than a month old but Apple Store said it must have Ben damaged somehow, thankfully I had Apple Care and had it replaced. Although I think that is only good the first time it breaks, so if it ever breaks again, either from damage or like this last time, I am think I am out of luck
 
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Love when this topic comes up and people say you can't do real work on an iPad like program and develop apps. When in fact, you actually can.

My company (www.hyperpad.com) develops an iPad app called hyperPad that is a full game creation platform. You can create complex mobile games and actually export them to Xcode. We currently lack the ability to publish to the app store directly from the iPad, but it's something we'd like to add in the future.

Our users have created art, music, the logic, and the entire game all on the iPad, and they are already making money in the app store! Definitely doing real work.

Just because some of you guys can't get past the fact that the workflow isn't the same as what you're used to, it doesn't mean the apps and functionality is not there.
 
I do my professional work on computers. Please, define “professional computer work” to me
Without a mouse its useless for text editing, work, spreadsheets, and detailed video work.
Thats a lot of pro stuff! Love it for art, but otherwise I'm not interested
 
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Something something file system something Tim Cook something Apple doomed.

Another day at the iPad section of the forum.
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The members here tend to be bitter, self-centered and full of resentment.


Giving sales are declining, wouldn’t you agree the market is showing resentment? Follow the money ;)
 
Giving sales are declining, wouldn’t you agree the market is showing resentment? Follow the money ;)

That would be indicative if it wasn't an industry-wide situation (China, fear of recession, etc) where Apple's competitors had it much worse. Of course, people here read it how they like (it's because of the headphone jack, ofc).

So, no, market is definitely not showing resentment.
 
You don’t have to purchase an iPad Pro as others have pointed out (which actually starts at $800). That $8 notebook in a box stored in the garage ain’t going to help you if you’re in another city and need your notes. Lastly, the Files app is fine for most use cases.

Files app sucks, god forbid you need to store another file type not blessed by Apple. Sorry, can’t stand apple telling me how to work or be productive.

File systems are useful for a reason, that’s why I would take OSx over iOS any day. MacBook Air is a great machine, for me I would take that over an iPad Pro any day (I don’t need a stylist, so probably a key difference)
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That would be indicative if it wasn't an industry-wide situation (China, fear of recession, etc) where Apple's competitors had it much worse. Of course, people here read it how they like (it's because of the headphone jack, ofc).

So, no, market is definitely not showing resentment.

Really? You do know some computer manufacturers (Lenovo) are seeing rising sales, and andriod is kicking butt in China
 
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Without a mouse its useless for text editing, work, spreadsheets, and detailed video work.
Thats a lot of pro stuff! Love it for art, but otherwise I'm not interested

I love it how you use broad terms like "work". Yes, it's useless for text editing and "work".

Also, have you seen what people are doing with LumaFusion? I'd call it very detailed video work.
 
I have the last generation iPad pro, it is super fast but I only use it to read books and take notes. I use it a couple times a week, but I use my MacBook Pro every single day. If the iPad ever wants to replace my laptop, I need it to be able to run Xcode, have a true file system, and be a complete development machine. I don't understand how Apple can sell the iPad pro as a "pro machine" if you can't even create iPad apps on it? Right now, my iPad feels like a race car in a 20 mph school zone, it has awesome hardware and potential but there is very little software that can actually take advantage of it. Until Apple makes Logic, Final Cut, Xcode and other actual "pro apps" for the iPad, I will always consider the iPad as a tool and not a "pro machine".

Hint: They're not trying to sell it to you. Most Mac users aren't programmers. Oh wait, maybe you live in a bubble?
 
Really? You do know some computer manufacturers (Lenovo) are seeing rising sales, and andriod is kicking but in China

The largest Android manufacturer - Samsung - just reported a big loss (and if I understand it it was mostly attributed to China's economy situation) LG also had a very bad year. Lenovo did well, but Mac has been doing well for the past few years, so I don't know what you're trying to say. Like it or not, Mac business is healthy under Cook. And you do know Apple captured half of all smartphone revenue in 2018. Half. So, um, yeah. No resentment outside this forum and YouTube.
 
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People need to remember that they are not necessarily the target market for the advertisement. The members here tend to be more tech-savvy, and more comfortable with complexity and power.

What the ipad brings to the market is the ability to streamline all these otherwise complex tasks for the normal everyday person.

I can share a personal anecdote of how I had fun with my iPad Pro at work this week. As a teacher, I was tasked with creating a roster of the students in my form class, complete with names and mugshots.

So what I did was use my ipad to take photos of each of my 40 students, crop them in the photos app, then insert them one by one into the supplied PowerPoint template. This last step was made easier by the use of split-screen (PowerPoint and photos running side-by-side) and drag-and-drop.

Finally, export it as a pdf to Dropbox, and emailing the final file (over 50 mb) to my year head using mail drop in the stock mail app.

It’s not an exactly complicated task, but there are numerous steps involved, and it’s ultimately easier when you are able to do it all on one device, compared to fiddling with a smartphone and laptop. Already, I see my colleagues struggling to import their photos to their work-issued windows laptop, or resorting to emailing the photos to themselves or uploading to google photos (which is still an extra step).

That’s what the ipad represents - an integrated solution which just works right out of the box.

The frustrating thing is how people here tend to think they themselves are the measure for a company's marketing strategy. It's a constant theme here.
 
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