Apple Shares Two New Ads Aimed at Encouraging Android Users to Switch to iPhone

[KeanosMagicHat]

. . . Apple has let plenty of vulnerabilities go unpatched and has not always provided robust OS updates (at least ones that don't also cripple the device) for years.. . .

I can’t think of one that’s gone unpatched for years that would significantly compromise the privacy & security of my device.

Do you have some examples please?

. . . Also, Apple sells multi-year-old devices as new. So an iPhone 7 can be bought today and be ineligible for updates in just a few years . . .

Again this happens with android manufacturers too, although their devices aren’t supported for anywhere near as long.

The iPhone 7 should still have at least three years of updates left. That’s more than any android phone except the Google Pixel.

It’s up to the customer to educate themselves on these things before they make a purchase. If they don’t, there’s no point them moaning about it afterwards

 

[JGIGS]

Selling targeted ads requires deep knowledge of the person by necessity. That level of spying is creepy

It uses the retail websites you visit. I don't consider that deep knowledge but creepy ya I guess. They have to make revenue and for those who it bothers they have a choice to no use their products.

 

[deanthedev]

Also, Apple sells multi-year-old devices as new. So an iPhone 7 can be bought today and be ineligible for updates in just a few years.

Does Apple sell iPhones with iOS 8, 9 or 10 pre-installed? That will never be updated toanewer version? Because this practice is common in the Android world.

 

[dirt_farmer]

I can’t think of one that’s gone unpatched for years that would significantly compromise the privacy & security of my device.

Do you have some examples please?



Again this happens with android manufacturers too, although their devices aren’t supported for anywhere near as long.

The iPhone 7 should still have at least three years of updates left. That’s more than any android phone except the Google Pixel.

It’s up to the customer to educate themselves on these things before they make a purchase. If they don’t, there’s no point them moaning about it afterwards

Plenty of ways into an iPhone:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/cias-...ckpile-puts-zero-day-hoards-in-the-spotlight/

Regarding updates, iPhone update eligibility is artificially limited by the vendor for the purpose of planned obsolescence.

Android is not limited like that and plenty of old devices get plenty of legacy support: Nexus 4 was released on October 29 2012 and can happily run Android 8.

https://www.xda-developers.com/using-the-nexus-4-in-2018/

iPhone 5 was released around then and every single one of them is in the landfill.
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Does Apple sell iPhones with iOS 8, 9 or 10 pre-installed? That will never be updated toanewer version? Because this practice is common in the Android world.

Apple will happily sell you old insecure crap because you want to save money.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

 

[OLSinFLA]

I believe it’s 85% already. iOS is schrinking rapidly and no money in the bank can turn that tide if you don’t use that money in making it better and cheaper.

Except that Apple controls 85% of smart phone profits. Other than apple and samsung a lot of the phone manufactures are losing money. Market share isn't everything if you're selling at a loss.

 

[fairuz]

Apple also has over $95B in debt. I know, minor detail right?

Yes, worth mentioning. I think that was a workaround to deal with the US's double taxation for foreign earnings. If/when they get to move cash back in, they'll pay it off.

 

[OLSinFLA]

Why does anybody have to think the “Notch looks good”. It serves it’s purpose for housing all the current hardware and that’s what it’s intended for.



The missing 3.5 Jack is Not a bad thing for everybody. Some Might be inconvenienced by the lack of 3.5 mm Jack, but Bluetooth is primarily taking over as it is. Not to mention, Apple provides you the adapter. Consistent complaining about the missing 3.5 mm Jack is old, they’re not bringing it back, technology is moving forward.



Gimped? You mean the five years of updates provided to iOS versus only two years with android? How is the iPhone overpriced, considering the competition is nearly almost the same price. And even with the rising cost of smart phones, consumers tend to finance their phones anyways.

I was thrilled to get rid of the lint collector... I mean headphone jack

 

[hans1972]

Funny, I went iOS to Android and find the experience much better in most respects.

So why are you here?

 

[Xiroteus]

It doesn't tell you anything. It would have to be going for the "Oh, they said it's safer, so it must be true"

 

[1098474]

I have an iPhone but my next phone will be Android. Some of my favorite apps have disappeared from the store on IOS so I guess I'll be following them.

#TeamPixel all the way, I would never go back to an iPhone

 

[deanthedev]

Apple will happily sell you old insecure crap because you want to save money.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

What does this have to do with my question about iPhone with 2-3 year old versions of iOS on them? Oh right, nothing at all.

 

[itguy06]

So why are you here?

I still use and support Apple stuff. And am a shareholder. Just don't care for their direction under Cook.

 

[trifid]

These have to be the most amateur-looking ineffective and boring ads I've ever seen from Apple. What the heck is going on.

Edit: wtf on the music track too.

 

[dirt_farmer]

What does this have to do with my question about iPhone with 2-3 year old versions of iOS on them? Oh right, nothing at all.

It has to do with your semantic reductionism.

In the sense that you narrow it down incessantly until you reach a point where you are literally correct but your narrow example is so removed from the original debate that it is irrelevant.
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So why are you here?

It's interesting to talk about it.

Like many I am here for a convincing narrative about why I should reinvest in the Apple ecosystem.

I want to in part because not having iMessage is a social handicap for me.

But amazingly there are so few objective benefits to switching (articulated here anyway) and many, many infuriating and arbitrary drawbacks.

This dude is not wrong.

And neither is this one

Change my mind MacRumors!

 

[Altis]

Does Apple sell iPhones with iOS 8, 9 or 10 pre-installed? That will never be updated toanewer version? Because this practice is common in the Android world.

I would sell my iPhone 6 and go buy one (or a 6S) with iOS 9 if I could.

When my girlfriend got her 5 replaced under warranty due to defects, the 5 that replaced it came with iOS 7 installed (which it's still running to this day) despite iOS 9 being out at that time.

 

[verniesgarden]

Am I the only one the thinks the portrait mode photos look like garbage?

 

[truthertech]

I always find these clever, but those that already have Android find the iPhone too expensive, or just simply out of their league because they already use Android and don't want to learn another phone. It might happen, but Apple should know that these ads are already not help influence those that have Android

Not to mention the Android fans that will say "yeah but the notch" or "Yeah but Android is better because 'blah blah blah'"

Sorry to have to point out to you that millions are switching from Android to iOS every year. It will only increase as more and more people realize that Google is creating massive dossier on them.

 

[deanthedev]

It has to do with your semantic reductionism.

In the sense that you narrow it down incessantly until you reach a point where you are literally correct but your narrow example is so removed from the original debate that it is irrelevant.

Really? What was the original debate? Because all I remember you saying is Apple selling older devices to which I replied Android was worse, not only selling old devices but devices with 2-3 year old versions of Android. And being stuck on that version. How is that reduction? As compared to your expansion, by bringing up something unrelated (Snow Leopard) into a discussion about iPhones/iOS.

Then we have this from you: “iPhone 5 was released around then and every single one of them is in the landfill.”

So you have to resort to fabricating outright lies to try to make a point? Why can’t you stick to facts?

 

[dirt_farmer]

Really? What was the original debate? Because all I remember you saying is Apple selling older devices to which I replied Android was worse, not only selling old devices but devices with 2-3 year old versions of Android. And being stuck on that version. How is that reduction? As compared to your expansion, by bringing up something unrelated (Snow Leopard) into a discussion about iPhones/iOS.

Then we have this from you: “iPhone 5 was released around then and every single one of them is in the landfill.”

So you have to resort to fabricating outright lies to try to make a point? Why can’t you stick to facts?

almost every Android device can be updated to the latest version. It doesn't matter what it ships with or what ROM the manufacturer makes.

IPhone 5s must be thrown out because they're not allowed to run a secure / current version of the OS.

I don't get how you take that to mean that apples phones tend to be on the current os and tend to stay current longer.

There are a lot of perfectly serviceable but unusable iPhones that beg to differ.

 

[Moshu]

My findings switching to a Galaxy S8:

- starting with Android 7 (now updated to 8) the interface is somehow similar but still better than Apple's
- even you don't get the latest Android version as soon as it's released, Samsung releases regularly security patches
- I'm not even sure I want to force upgrade the phone to the latest version because my experience with iOS was that everything became less responsive and the phone was just "slower" every year with the new iOS version
- battery time is almost double than iPhone... was quite a shock
- had no issues with App compatibility, everything works smoothly
- I restarted the phone like 5-6 times in 1 year
- I do miss global cloud-sync for passwords, notes etc. as I'm working on a Mac... /cry

So, to conclude: Android is not anymore what it used to be. iOS offers more features, is for sure more stable and has less bugs, has a great eco-system, while Android is more innovative, more dynamic.
For me, in this moment, it looks like a tie.
But Android has the momentum and will take lead.

 

[AngstyKylo]

I actually want to try android again, and the price isn’t an issue for me. The Pixel 2 or any of the flagships Samsung’s are the similar in price.
My issues with Android is google also. If I was to go to Android, it would be a Pixel 2. I even toyed with having both, just I can’t justify having 2 phones.

Switching to Google is not ideal, just like having to use YouTube, but Oreo 8.1 is ahead of iOS 11.3 (phone) for me. Notifications, multitasking, app switching and productivity seem more intuitive, like it is on the iPad. If you actively use iMessage/FaceTime, Handoff, AirPods, Apple Watch, Apple Music, Macs, iCloud etc. it’s probably a dealbreaker.

 

[ROGmaster]

WhatsApp is a third party app. I keep seeing this suggestion, but it really misses the point. Apple iMessage is built into the default messaging service on iPhone, so people use it. There is no direct equivalent on Android. If WhatsApp was the default messaging app on Android, you would have a point, but it’s not. Instead, WhatsApp is one of many alternatives BUT the user at the other end has to have it too.

Be serious man, WhatsApp is used by way more people than iMessage in the first place.
Trying to create the premise that simply having to download from the official apps store one of the most popular mobile apps in existence it's an essential problem that can't be overlooked no matter what is simply ridiculous.

On the iPhone, every user has iMessage.

Yeah and that constitutes quite a problem for a lot of people. Or would you deny this fact?

 

[moxin]

It was a wrong decision to get an Android phone. I'm definitely switching back. I just hate the Android fragmentation, it sucks.

 

[ROGmaster]

I feel like the App Store one is pretty true. There is a lot of crap on the android store, and some stuff I downloaded ask for ridiculous permissions, where Apple wouldn't simply let devs do that on iOS.

I can supposedly run the Google Pixel camera app on my Samsung, but I have to install and unsigned app for that. I just don't know if those incredible photos (and portrait mode without a second camera!) is worth the risk.

There is no imminent risk man. There are huge XDA threads for those Gcam apps with many people sharing their experience of using them.
If would be a risk if we would talk about some obscure apk's that nobody has heard of and that do things that seem to good to be true. But here we are taking about somebody simply taking Google's Pixel Camera App and making it an apk that can be installed on other Android phones.

Anyway I installed Gcam on a cheap Mi A1 running Oreo. The improvements in photo quality are staggering and with Gcam I cam easily say thta this cheap 190$ android phone takes better pictures than the iphone 6s(maybe even better than the 7 in a lot of situations). HDR+ is simply magical.

 

[tech3475]

As someone who uses both platforms, they both have their pros and cons.

Prioritise the features you want and then decide which is best for you.

For me it was ease of backups (via itunes) and updates without needing root they made me stick with ios when I got my 8 plus.

But if this changes Im willing to switch.