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Thats pretty awesome. Cannot wait for this to progress. Glad Apple is pushing this forward and hope they continue with it.
 
You will be able to use bluetooth devices for all windows Mac and VP. We don't know yet what VP input will do on the Mac window.
But this is what I mean - you're using your MacBook keyboard and track pad to work on apps in the Mac window, what do you use if you want to write in a Word doc brought up in VP? will the same keyboard work or will you need to use virtual or a second keyboard? we'll find out soon!
 
But this is what I mean - you're using your MacBook keyboard and track pad to work on apps in the Mac window, what do you use if you want to write in a Word doc brought up in VP? will the same keyboard work or will you need to use virtual or a second keyboard? we'll find out soon!
No, that part we know. You can definitely use your same keyboard and mouse (or trackpad) for all Mac content and all VP content such as the VP native word app. It won't be the integrated macbook keyboard and trackpad however, it will be bluetooth devices.
 
Like many here, I'm not gonna lie... Vision Pro indeed seems cool. Can't wait to experience 3D CAD and DAWs integration.
 
No, that part we know. You can definitely use your same keyboard and mouse (or trackpad) for all Mac content and all VP content such as the VP native word app. It won't be the integrated macbook keyboard and trackpad however, it will be bluetooth devices.
so I need a separate keyboard and trackpad than my MacBook keyboard trackpad to use mixed MacBook/screen apps and AVP apps? thats not a good solution at all....
 
Amazing user interface on top of a product that doesn't seem to have a meaningful purpose.
 
so I need a separate keyboard and trackpad than my MacBook keyboard trackpad to use mixed MacBook/screen apps and AVP apps? thats not a good solution at all....
TMK there is no info saying that the integrated laptop input devices will work. You are going to want dedicated input devices, however, because for many uses you won't need the mac.
 
I think it’s quite honest of them, that they show actual footage captured by the vision pro, even if it will probably look better in real life. E.g. you probably won’t notice the slight fisheye look or the slightly off skin color (compared to the color graded video, of course, but still…) when wearing the headset. Also there’s sometimes a slight stuttering noticeable when the view moves from side to side, the butterfly dosn’t track perfectly on the finger but jumps a bit and the mindfullness animation seems to have some frame issues as well. I think that’s a deliberate decision (or the video was rushed).
 
Just to be clear...

I work from home.

I have a designated area to work with. I use a keyboard and tablet like many professionals. I need actual apps not floating widget style apps. I need actual keyboard not air pinching. I need actual drawing tablets. I need actual RAID storage.

You cannot do this "anywhere in your house". A keyboard and tablet requires an actual desk.

I need comfort when I work. I cannot have my face mashed and creased. I need the freedom to move unhindered without cables coming out of my head like some kind of Keanu sci fi slave.

If you're fine with all this discomfort and want to play with your air pinching keyboard from the comfort of a closet or toilet, then that's you. But if you pitch science fiction on a forum then you get called out.

Go ahead and buy 100 of these stupid ski goggles. As an Apple shareholder I'll take your money. I'll take your money and spend it on an actual computer and monitor.

I think people who think they will be using this for work or to replace their main computer setup are in for some disappointment in the first few days. They will default to use this for watching movies but soon will find out is not as easy as just turning on a TV. It will take a bit of dedication to get this thing ready, get yourself into a comfortable setting and plugged to a wall.
 
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It's going to be interesting for sure. I think whatever workflow this product is meant for doesn't exist yet, so it's hard to really explain the purpose. It was like that with the iPhone: initially, it just seemed like it mostly just did the same things every phone did but on a touchscreen. Eventually apps came along, the web became optimized, the camera got better, and it created a whole ecosystem. This thing will probably try to do the same.

But I can't imagine this becoming nearly as popular as the smartphone, simply because it's not practical and where/when you can use it is extremely limited. I can't see this being in everyone's home or most people using one. Seems like a very specific product, like the Mac Pro, that most people wouldn't want to use. Except the Mac Pro is just one version of the Mac, but the Vision Pro is a whole product in itself.
 
Very impressive, indeed.

Still, I can't see myself doing any actual work with this, though. Perhaps some people could, but not me. To have this thing strapped to my head and not being spatially aware of my surroundings at all times would make me feel uncomfortable. Plus, I don't think pinching and zooming with your fingers is as efficient as using a physical mouse and keyboard.

Nonetheless, this would make a great entertainment and consumption device, if you're alone. But how are you supposed to watch movies, sports, etc, with other people in the room? You can't.
 
Me! I am ready to sit courtside (from my couch) and watch an NBA game.
Unless I'm completely clueless (setup acknowledged), you're still stuck with the same half court NBA camera work, not a sitting at court-side view. Just like the second tier grandstand view of NFL games or the aerial all-22 from 150 feet up, not the closeup "you are on the field" view you might see in the film loops the Best Buy stores use to sell you TVs.

(1985 46 Defense phenomenal)
 
So ... Apple must be working on a special Vision-version of MLB Friday Night broadcasts, right? Watch a game as if you're behind home plate or by the dugout like a bat boy? Seems like a no brainer. Now how does Apple get the NBA, NFL and NHL to do the same?
How are you going to get the players off the sidelines / courtside / benches or boards to get that immersive view? It's unlike track events where the cameras can follow the runners stride for stride, or the pole vaulters all the way up and over, for instance.
 
Unless I'm completely clueless (setup acknowledged), you're still stuck with the same half court NBA camera work, not a sitting at court-side view. Just like the second tier grandstand view of NFL games or the aerial all-22 from 150 feet up, not the closeup "you are on the field" view you might see in the film loops the Best Buy stores use to sell you TVs.

(1985 46 Defense phenomenal)
I assume you will be able to (or soon be able to) do what you can on the Meta Quest. Sit court side with friends who also have headsets.
 
Very impressive, indeed.

Still, I can't see myself doing any actual work with this, though. Perhaps some people could, but not me. To have this thing strapped to my head and not being spatially aware of my surroundings at all times would make me feel uncomfortable. Plus, I don't think pinching and zooming with your fingers is as efficient as using a physical mouse and keyboard.

Nonetheless, this would make a great entertainment and consumption device, if you're alone. But how are you supposed to watch movies, sports, etc, with other people in the room? You can't.
Im hoping it will be good as a device for work on the road, but can't see using it WFH for extended period and definitely not in office. mouse and keyboard through Mac or BT.

Agree on consumption. Portable IMAX screen at home or while in a hotel, plane, etc? yes please. not sure if first row sports will be that great. The truth is, the view is much better on tv with more of a bird's eye view. being front row in real life is awesome because the players are really there and you feed off the crowd energy. Dont think you'll really feel the crowd energy on AVP, no matter how good the Spatial Audio is.
 
Watched the video and wasn’t impressed. Looks like it will be poor for working as scaling will be limited along with needing a keyboard/mouse. To me it’s clear this is just a media consumption device no matter what you want it to be.

The real issue is, putting this thing on is a commitment. You don’t just pick this up to watch a quick video or check email, you grab the phone that’s most likely next to you ALL the time. This thing will sit on the charger until you mess with it for 30min then your head hurts and back it goes. Cool tech but not good enough for the price.
Basically works like an AirPlay device. Limited to 4K resolution and all the lag/compression artifacts that go along with using AirPlay. I use a 5k monitor so would be a downgrade as far as usable desktop space. As someone who’s tried AirPlay on my 65ā€ TV it’s not a a good desktop environment vs using the 5k monitor.
 


Apple today published a ten-minute "Guided Tour" video for its Vision Pro headset, walking new users through its interface and key features.


The video, available on the Vision Pro page of Apple's website and on YouTube, provides a basic overview of how to use the headset and its key features. It highlights aspects like viewing photos and panoramas, Spatial Video playback, placing windows in 3D space, FaceTime calls, immersive environments, bringing a Mac display into the space, and experiences like Mindfulness and "Encounter Dinosaurs." Watch the full Guided Tour video on Apple's website.

Pre-orders of the Vision Pro opened earlier today and the device launches in the U.S. on Friday, February 2.

Article Link: Apple Shares Vision Pro Guided Tour Walkthrough Video
Ugh. Creepy gut feeling, I don’t know. But what I DO know is that I don’t want to live like that, ever more alienated, distant and removed from reality. It is bad enough already with our addictions to our gadgets. And now this. As already expressed, Ugh.
 
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