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No matter what Apple does, someone's gonna whine about it. :p
Exactly. This is just like the removal of the headphone jack. At first there were lots of complaints. As time went on, the complaints became fewer and fewer until there are only the last few diehards that will never let it go.
 
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So a family buys 5 Apple Watches but only has one iphone in the family that they share. Without any other USB devices or computers? I suppose it's possible, but along the same probability as snow in Aruba.

Give it some time and it will snow there. At least according to all climate alarmist.
Murphy's law. It's real.
 
You were ready to drop over $400 and changed your mind because a 5W power adapter that you probably already have, and if you don't, can buy for $5, isn't included? Or for some other, more rational reason?
Yes, sometimes a company shows you they dont care about you and are total cheapskates and you decide - screw them. A car is 20-100K but if there were no $500 wheels on it I would buy from that manufacture. No price change, nothing just “Hey this thing we used to pay for - now you have to pay for it...suckers!”
 
Just like the air. I’m sure iPhone pros will have the charger cause it’s going to be a 20w. But the regular iPhone 12 and lower won’t.

My iPhone 11 ProMax came with a USB C wall brick with a C to Lightniung adapter cable (albeit a rather short one). They will certainly include the correct cables and wall bricks until they become ubiquitous the way current 5W USB A bricks have. Remember how they included a lightning to 1/8 audio adapter when they made the switch? Well, now they don’t need to anymore.
 
The apple watch chargers are at least $30 these days.

But the cable is still included as far as I know. What is missing is the 5W power brick, I think I have at least 3-4 of them still in the box at home and you can buy one for a few $.
The cable is expensive though, they better keep including it and I'd like the Watch to be fully Qi compatible in order to charge it with any Qi pad so if I lose/break the cable I can still charge the Watch
 
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Well your previous car had wheels so you can use those.... that is essentially the logic some apple fanatics are using to justify this. Its insane.

Not in the slightest. You’ve got an Oranges and staplers comparison.

Given the sheer plethora of chargers out there, Apple probably looked at the numbers and saw it didn’t make either fiscal or environmental sense.

I’ll not need any new chargers when my watch comes next week as I can reuse my existing one.
 
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The problem here is that some people end up selling their old iPhones or old watches with power adapters and cables, then they buy the new iPhone or watch and have no way to charge it. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max, It comes with a different type of adapter, an usb c and that is all that I have. I am planning on selling my old watch to a friend and I will have to buy the new watch plus an adapter to charge it? No way! Apple can keep that watch. They want to decrease their carbon imprint? It seems more like millions more in profits for the company. Because hundreds of millions in their savings is not enough!
 
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I can already see a family of 5 wanting to charge their watches with 1 available charger...
C'mon lol.
its the same adapter as the phone, I have like 6 of them from over the years, they are basically in every outlet. coupled with the USB ported power supplies and its crazy how many places in my house you can change watch, phone, headphones....
 
its the same adapter as the phone, I have like 6 of them from over the years, they are basically in every outlet. coupled with the USB ported power supplies and its crazy how many places in my house you can change watch, phone, headphones....

I've met people in 2019 which were first in their family to actually get a cellphone.
Just cause I then obviously the rest must too right?
lulz.
 
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The problem here is that some people end up selling their old iPhones or old watches with power adapters and cables, then they buy the new iPhone or watch and have no way to charge it. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max, It comes with a different type of adapter, an usb c and that is all that I have. I am planning on selling my old watch to a friend and I will have to buy the new watch plus an adapter to charge it? No way! Apple can keep that watch. They want to decrease their carbon imprint? It seems more like millions more in profits for the company. Because hundreds of millions in their savings is not enough!

Wait - you've been on MacRumors for well over eight years and you're saying the only USBA charging option you own is the 5W block that'd come with your watch?

Sorry, I don't buy it.

... and if you are actually telling the truth, it's a whopping $4.45 to get one shipped to your door.

Unless you're one of those who's been fooled into thinking large companies care about you, just move on and solve the problem yourself.
 
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The problem here is that some people end up selling their old iPhones or old watches with power adapters and cables, then they buy the new iPhone or watch and have no way to charge it. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max, It comes with a different type of adapter, an usb c and that is all that I have. I am planning on selling my old watch to a friend and I will have to buy the new watch plus an adapter to charge it? No way! Apple can keep that watch. They want to decrease their carbon imprint? It seems more like millions more in profits for the company. Because hundreds of millions in their savings is not enough!
this is my point exactly! i get if everything is all USB-C, but part are lighting so the adapters aren't all the same. it's a money grab for sure.
 
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Wait - you've been on MacRumors for well over eight years and you're saying the only USBA charging option you own is the 5W block that'd come with your watch?

Sorry, I don't buy it.

... and if you are actually telling the truth, it's a whopping $4.45 to get one shipped to your door.

Unless you're one of those who's been fooled into thinking large companies care about you, just move on and solve the problem yourself.
if he sold his other devices, then he sold them with the adapter....why is this concept so difficult to grasp? I sell all my old stuff and include the adapter and cable.
 
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if he sold his other devices, then he sold them with the adapter....why is this concept so difficult to grasp? I sell all my old stuff and include the adapter and cable.

The part that I find highly improbable is that over such a stretch of time, that person neither:
  • happened to buy other devices with a USB charger they can use for the watch if needed,
  • never had a device fail / die / become obsolete and thus leave an extra charger available for use,
  • nor ever happened to buy an extra single or dualport charger for convenience of having an extra somewhere else at their residence.
There are always the rare exceptions of course, which is why I also directed the person to a source for OEM Apple 5W chargers delivered for less than the price of a cheap lunch out. Heck, less than a cup of fancied up coffee.
 
if he sold his other devices, then he sold them with the adapter....why is this concept so difficult to grasp? I sell all my old stuff and include the adapter and cable.
You may be the rare exception, and in that case you will have to buy a charger from Apple (maybe and a cable also).
 
The part that I find highly improbable is that over such a stretch of time, that person neither:
  • happened to buy other devices with a USB charger they can use for the watch if needed,
  • never had a device fail / die / become obsolete and thus leave an extra charger available for use,
  • nor ever happened to buy an extra single or dualport charger for convenience of having an extra somewhere else at their residence.
There are always the rare exceptions of course, which is why I also directed the person to a source for OEM Apple 5W chargers delivered for less than the price of a cheap lunch out. Heck, less than a cup of fancied up coffee.
heck, why even include charging cables. you should have an extra laying around ;)
 
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