I use multi-port usb chargers or converted wall plugs in just about every scenario I’m in. I doubt other people are as “sophisticated” but definitely agree it’s not needed (for me). Maybe make it optional for people that want it with no cost difference?
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Apple Shipping New Apple Watches Without Power Adapter, but iPad Air Includes 20W USB-C Charger
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Where are people getting these extra power adapters? Are they not selling their old Apple devices? Or are they not including the adapters when they sell them? When I no longer use an Apple device, I sell it with everything that came with it. I don't have any extra adapters laying around.
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I just saw Tanax had already made this point. I'm also not comfortable using free swag adapters or the ones from a dollar store.
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I just saw Tanax had already made this point. I'm also not comfortable using free swag adapters or the ones from a dollar store.
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The more I thought about my earlier response, the more confused I was about what I was replying to, I went back to the first post I saw from you, and I'm still confused. Do you agree or disagree with cables being shipped in the box?
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Well, I only have 1 Apple higher power USB-C adapter that came with my iphone Pro so all my previous adapters are already out of date, not as functional and absolete. I have since ordered a couple more 3rd party ones and absolutely would love more new higher power USB-C bricks with my next iphone and/or ipad.
I want and need more.
I don’t recall replying to you, and not where I can easily search to find out what you’re referring to.
if the question is whether devices should ship with a cable in the box, I’d say it depends on a variety of factors.
So what happens when the new iPhones don’t come with a charger either (since it’s only reasonable this will happen next)? I get your argument, but there are still new customers. ”Hi grandma, here’s a brand new Apple Watch. You have to buy a separate charger though. Or share the with your iPhone 11 or older charger.”
Doesn’t make sense.
You only need 5W usb wall adapter. You can find good third party ones that are not nearly as expensive as what Apple charges. I’ve had great experiences with Anker. Not $5 but not $30 so that’s a plus.
Don’t buy your grandma an Apple Watch without spending an extra ten bucks on a wall adapter then. Y’all are acting like those people in an infomercial making everything seem so complicated and hopeless.
I laughed my a** off when they spun it as an environmental move by not including the charger. Ok then Apple, lower the price of the watch by $20-30 or give the option to buy it at $400 with the charger included. You know because this is all about the environment and reducing waste rather then a multi trillion dollar company trying to figure out any to increase profits...
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I have like 20 of the 5W cube chargers, and two of the 20W, and the 20W is the only charger I've ever had that broke. used it like three times and it just stopped working. not promising going forward.
Wrong. Apple is all about the experience. I remember when they included a dock and a FireWire plus USB cable with your iPod purchase. Now? They don’t even include a charger. What next? Sell MacBooks without chargers? Why not? If you’re spending $2k on a computer, what’s another $100 to charge it? C’mon, get real.
I really think they cut the charger out of the equation because an iPhone is required to set the watch up in the first place. As for grandma, that’s interesting and you’d either give her a spare or buy a new one entirely.
I presume this is a lot down to the 1.5 hour charge time. The assumption is you'll share with the iPhone charger.
Does the new watch come with a USB C Magnetic Charging cable (because there is one of those shown as „New“ in the accessories page)? I have quite a few USB A 5W bricks, but zero USB C ones.
That‘s what annoys me most about them leaving the power adapters out of the box. They ship their crap with 5W USB A adapters for ages even when every other company switched to higher watt ones (and to USB C) and then when they ship one or two generation of products with higher-capacity power adapters (and no one had time to adapt) they leave them out altogether, but ship a new cable that doesn't fit in all those millions of 5W USB A power adapters we've been hoarding apparently.
... whilst increasing the price of their damn products.
That‘s what annoys me most about them leaving the power adapters out of the box. They ship their crap with 5W USB A adapters for ages even when every other company switched to higher watt ones (and to USB C) and then when they ship one or two generation of products with higher-capacity power adapters (and no one had time to adapt) they leave them out altogether, but ship a new cable that doesn't fit in all those millions of 5W USB A power adapters we've been hoarding apparently.
... whilst increasing the price of their damn products.
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So funny how people want an Apple Watch but still living in the past century with no USB outlets in their homes. All other arguments I have read are of course complete nonsense. I mean how can you be sure about Apple making more profit without knowing how latest changes add up? They could as well have added features that otherwise wouldn't have been implemented if they'd still deliver chargers with every watch. You can't tell - that's the point. Apple doesn't have to find excuses to raise their margin in the first place. They would simply raise the price. End of story. How can you even think they would try to hide increasing prices? Doesn't make sense at all.
Apple's statement of environmental concern is a horse****.
If they really do care about our environment, then make their product more repairable, and stop giving us fragile cables that easily breaks. Oh yeah and you better combine lightning and USB-C. Why let consumers handle two types of cables wasting resources?
It's always more margin.
If they really do care about our environment, then make their product more repairable, and stop giving us fragile cables that easily breaks. Oh yeah and you better combine lightning and USB-C. Why let consumers handle two types of cables wasting resources?
It's always more margin.
So what will be the argument when Apple cuts the charger from the new iPhones?
I doubt they will. If they do, I’m not sure, and I can’t support that decision.
They way they announced the decision to drop it from the Watch retail box made it seem it was the only product they had in mind.
The idea of not shipping a charger with iPhone was originally a rumor. Maybe they got it wrong and it really was in reference to Apple Watch?
Not really. Having a Watch implies you have an iPhone (because you have to in order to activate it), so you already have one power adapter. The fact that there’s a joke about people collecting the adapters and having 6 on hand throughout the years proves it. Hell, I have nearly ten and my partner has another 4 or 5 lying around. They should have some kind of donation bin actually. 🤣
Apple has other ways of reducing product cost as well like metals, displays, batteries, adhesives, etc.