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Apple Should Be in 'No Rush' on iPad 3 as RIM's PlayBook Falters
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The HP TouchPad looks more like an iPad than anything else. Honeycomb tablets like the Asus eeePad (slider, transformer, etc...) are those that look less like the iPad.
Yet the TouchPad tanked until it was sold at heavy discount, the Asus and other Honeycomb tablets are seeing more success.
Your views just do no reflect what is really going on.
Understood, but let's not let that fact get in the way of a good discussion
Isn't that what was said about Android phones? And look at the market today. Seems like a rather naive view.
I don't know but Windows 8 metro is pretty slick. I haven't been this excited about a tablet OS since WebOS.
I look at my iPad screen and wish it had live icons, multiple user logins and inter-app operability, etc.
Then again, we're looking at late 2012-2013 so..there's still time for iOS 6.
I look at my iPad screen and wish it had live icons, multiple user logins and inter-app operability, etc.
Then again, we're looking at late 2012-2013 so..there's still time for iOS 6.
What's funny with all Windows 8 hype is that we're talking about Microsoft... So, don't get fooled one more time... By the time Windows 8 will be ready and functional, I mean after release of Service Pack 1, Apple will have release iOS 6, maybe even 7... LOL
They can't beat Apple at this game... Microsoft goal is to sell software, money that goes on top of hardware cost... Apple goal is to provide free or almost free software that brings more value to your product and one more reason to pay more for the hardware... but the main goal of Apple is to sell you hardware, that's where they do money and then sell you content with AppStore, iTunes, iBookStore... We don't pay for iLife, iOS, or almost nothing for OS X... but that's what makes the difference with a Windows Machine.
With their huge cash money, they can also guarantee to lock down all their parts for mass production of one model.... where Google and Microsoft do have dozen of manufactures to build hundreds of models... So, Apple can get the price so low that no one can beat them (look at the iPad cost, almost no one can match the price)... mainly since they don't need OS fees.
That's why Microsoft can't win and Apple can take all the time they want to release what they want, when they want... And they will have time to release a new iOS update to bring some major features that people really want (look back at copy/cut/paste, or pretty soon about notification, etc...). So, by the time Windows 8 will be really available and shipped, Apple can easily come with iOS 6 with live icons, dual/split screen, multi-user profile and file management system... and even come with a better solution that would make more sense than any solution available out there...
I'm craving for the multi-user profiles, but with an easy way to share my stuff (calendar, pictures, contacts, etc...) but with other people I would include in different profile (Work, Family, Friends, etc...) and then have an easy way to share with other people without to think about access, confidentiality, etc... I do believe that's something that could easily come with iCloud then... And then even have some profile rules, let say, after 8pm, I don't want any call from people of my Work Profile, and I don't want any email... Or even I don't want any call between 10pm and 8am, except if it comes from my wife or kids, even on vibrate mode, etc... Well, a better and smarter Profile system that would make more sense in my every day life.
From everything I saw about Microsoft Windows 8 so far, or any Android system, I'm very glad and confident to stick with Apple OS X and iOS
My 2 cents,
Spid
They can't beat Apple at this game... Microsoft goal is to sell software, money that goes on top of hardware cost... Apple goal is to provide free or almost free software that brings more value to your product and one more reason to pay more for the hardware... but the main goal of Apple is to sell you hardware, that's where they do money and then sell you content with AppStore, iTunes, iBookStore... We don't pay for iLife, iOS, or almost nothing for OS X... but that's what makes the difference with a Windows Machine.
With their huge cash money, they can also guarantee to lock down all their parts for mass production of one model.... where Google and Microsoft do have dozen of manufactures to build hundreds of models... So, Apple can get the price so low that no one can beat them (look at the iPad cost, almost no one can match the price)... mainly since they don't need OS fees.
That's why Microsoft can't win and Apple can take all the time they want to release what they want, when they want... And they will have time to release a new iOS update to bring some major features that people really want (look back at copy/cut/paste, or pretty soon about notification, etc...). So, by the time Windows 8 will be really available and shipped, Apple can easily come with iOS 6 with live icons, dual/split screen, multi-user profile and file management system... and even come with a better solution that would make more sense than any solution available out there...
I'm craving for the multi-user profiles, but with an easy way to share my stuff (calendar, pictures, contacts, etc...) but with other people I would include in different profile (Work, Family, Friends, etc...) and then have an easy way to share with other people without to think about access, confidentiality, etc... I do believe that's something that could easily come with iCloud then... And then even have some profile rules, let say, after 8pm, I don't want any call from people of my Work Profile, and I don't want any email... Or even I don't want any call between 10pm and 8am, except if it comes from my wife or kids, even on vibrate mode, etc... Well, a better and smarter Profile system that would make more sense in my every day life.
From everything I saw about Microsoft Windows 8 so far, or any Android system, I'm very glad and confident to stick with Apple OS X and iOS
My 2 cents,
Spid
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The ideology that Apple would hold back on releasing any product (after it's normal cycle date) due to the fact that competition isn't threatening is a ridiculous business model.
stay ahead
Exactly. The faster they move the iPad forward, the harder it is for competitors to match it.
That said, the iPhone is subject to carrier approval, which slows the process down tremendously. It's success makes it more difficult to test - look at the performance problems on AT&T in the beginning, where there was apparently some kind of radio power issue. For marginal devices that's not a big deal. For a device with the footprint of the iPhone, that would cause a total network meltdown.
Exactly. The faster they move the iPad forward, the harder it is for competitors to match it.
That said, the iPhone is subject to carrier approval, which slows the process down tremendously. It's success makes it more difficult to test - look at the performance problems on AT&T in the beginning, where there was apparently some kind of radio power issue. For marginal devices that's not a big deal. For a device with the footprint of the iPhone, that would cause a total network meltdown.
With respect to hardware, yes, there is a similarity, but in terms of OS, there are more similarities between some aspects of Android and iOS, especially when you look at Samsung's marketing (which is why this has become an issue of trade dress).
If you've ever even held an Honeycomb tablet, you'd know how false this is.
The trade dress are about their Galaxy line-up of phones (and trademarks for icons) or the hardware. Not their honeycomb stuff which for now is facing claims of design patents/registration for the hardware only.
Honeycomb looks nothing like iOS.
So this article is stating Apple is taking their time with the iPad 3, since the iPad 2 doesn't have any successful competition out there currently.
I guess all those who said "competition is good" were right after all!
I guess all those who said "competition is good" were right after all!
Thank you. Apple did not have any serious competition for the iPad, but they released the second one less than a year later. They want people to come back and buy some more.
Think about the iPhone and how many existing iPhone users on this board just cannot wait for the 5. Whatever Bionic driod exceptional commet nexus Android phone coming up is just noise.
I might add to that, Apple to my knowledge has never pushed a product out the door because of the competition. Products are released like clockwork, only ever on Apples timeline, usually to benefit the financials of a new business quarter or to pad to the tail end of one.
They shouldn't 'hold back' or delay a product, but it does mean they can take their time and get it right/make it better with little risk.
The best day to release an iPad 3 would be the same day as the competition release their iPad 2-killer. (or a day before, if you wanted to be really mean).
I think Apple's biggest worries should be...
1. The rumoured Amazon tablet. It sounds like Amazon, like Apple, realise that spec sheets don't matter a damn, the most important thing is having a cohesive experience - Amazon have a music store, Prime's video services, Cloud Drive/Cloud Player, Kindle and their own app store... all with a single billing relationship. Taking the geeky ******** out of the equasion and letting the average, normal person fill their tablet with content they care about is how you win.
2. Sony's tablets. The PlayStation brand still arguably holds a lot of sway, so that alone is a win for Sony. But they also have their Qriocity service, their own ebook store, and will no doubt create links between their tablets and their other product lines.
3. Windows 8. It's a long way away, and there are no iPad rivals to speak of, but the Metro UI is a massive break from the tablet norm, and it has that brand which - for better or worse - practically everyone knows. I'd argue Windows holds more cachet than Android.
... in that order. I didn't buy the iPad 2, and now the rumours of a higher resolution device are gathering steam, I'm holding out. There's no question my next tablet will be Apple, but here's hoping it's a larger specification leap than lat time.
1. The rumoured Amazon tablet. It sounds like Amazon, like Apple, realise that spec sheets don't matter a damn, the most important thing is having a cohesive experience - Amazon have a music store, Prime's video services, Cloud Drive/Cloud Player, Kindle and their own app store... all with a single billing relationship. Taking the geeky ******** out of the equasion and letting the average, normal person fill their tablet with content they care about is how you win.
2. Sony's tablets. The PlayStation brand still arguably holds a lot of sway, so that alone is a win for Sony. But they also have their Qriocity service, their own ebook store, and will no doubt create links between their tablets and their other product lines.
3. Windows 8. It's a long way away, and there are no iPad rivals to speak of, but the Metro UI is a massive break from the tablet norm, and it has that brand which - for better or worse - practically everyone knows. I'd argue Windows holds more cachet than Android.
... in that order. I didn't buy the iPad 2, and now the rumours of a higher resolution device are gathering steam, I'm holding out. There's no question my next tablet will be Apple, but here's hoping it's a larger specification leap than lat time.
Yup. That WebOS really is taking over the world.
The only difference between WP7 and a tablet running Metro is the ARM processor.
1) Amazon will never match the quality of the iPad, they don't have their own OS they would merely use an Android or Windows OS both of which are heavily inferior to iOS, all Amazon have is a big customer base to market it to
2) No one trusts Sony after the hacking incident where millions had their credit card details stolen off Playstation Network, Sony have to mend a lot of fences of trust before thinking about being a credible iPad alternative
3) By the time Windows 8 tablets are out on the market Apple would be even more advanced
The best thing would be for all the competitors to just pull out and save their money and give Apple 100% of the market
I installed Windows 8 Developer Preview yesterday, and the Metro front end looks very slick. Very similar to the Windows Phone.
The Metro apps look quite useful, but from what I've seen so far, I think it is a bit more suited for business type apps, than casual/games that the iPad dominates.
I really like the live preview stuff, and all of that stuff ends up running in a dormant state on the OS when not visible, so I think battery life will end up being pretty good on an ARM processor.
IF slick looking hardware is possible, AND the applications come, iPad has a very serious competitor. The Metro interface will be similar on Desktop\Tablet\Phone, making it very accessible to users.
The Metro apps look quite useful, but from what I've seen so far, I think it is a bit more suited for business type apps, than casual/games that the iPad dominates.
I really like the live preview stuff, and all of that stuff ends up running in a dormant state on the OS when not visible, so I think battery life will end up being pretty good on an ARM processor.
IF slick looking hardware is possible, AND the applications come, iPad has a very serious competitor. The Metro interface will be similar on Desktop\Tablet\Phone, making it very accessible to users.
Windows will never have the "cool" factor that Apple has
More Windows 7 PC's are sold around the world each year than Apple devices but Windows/MS do not have the "cool" "babe magnet" factor that Apple devices do and never will. Apple is not just an electronics and computing company it is a way of life, a religion
Microsoft doesn't manufacture computers, so your point is moot. I've also never seen anyone pick up "babes" with their Apple devices; but we probably frequent different types of clubs.
LOL!
I wouldn't go that far but, clearly, they need to take their time and not rush half-baked products into the market, embarrassing themselves.
As I said in the Windows 8 thread, if Microsoft was managed properly, their priority in terms of tablet market would be to release an iPad-optimized version of Office.
Google should look into being something more than an Ad-seller.
Amazon should think in terms of cooperation rather than competition with Apple, especially on the eBooks front.
I've said this numerous times.
You want a music player? You get an iPod.
You want a tablet PC? You get and iPad.
The choice is simple.
You want a music player? You get an iPod.
You want a tablet PC? You get and iPad.
The choice is simple.